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Hi, hello. It's great. It's going all right. It's going all right.
Is that kind of something else? It's what? It's the day to high, it's going to be 80 degrees. Oh, God.
And right now it's 72. So yeah, we're climbing. Yeah, I've definitely been on holidays. It's definitely opened all these windows and I make sure that the town pulls down a little bit.
But yeah, it's been really hot days that they say it's not so bad. We look at the gnarly humidity there. Was that just a safe thing? Because I like that.
That's mostly just a safe thing. It does get humid, but not like that. Oh, yeah. We're in the wintertime of year where it's like, okay, I can either accept it being 70% humidity in the start of the morning or, like, around the humid fire constantly and they get a thousand degrees here.
Right. Because the humid fire is a lot higher out constantly. Well, I just went to a ventilator window. Yeah, that's where all the mediums are.
So it's too tight seal though. This is a free sanding one, but also, we're just down. I bought a free sanding air conditioning unit for the baby's room. And it does.
It will de-humify as well. It has a hose, a big plastic two by four hook up to the hose that you then jam the window and then close it on that. And you get a relatively tight seal. It's sort of 14 looking at the place.
Pretty much, yeah. And then the fun things when you turn it on, I got a tree outside the window and they'll use on the tree to start going nuts because I'm just sharing it to last and out of it. I went on the end of the zoom there. So I told you it's just like, how hot is the air coming out of this room?
Or how much heat it's even at the right to get through cool? It was on flat plastic. Yeah, it was very hot out there. It's not a run-up motor in the fan long enough.
Yeah. And in this room, like this is my cold. I have this like 30-inch Dell that I use turns out ways and it gets blazing hot. And you want to know when you put your hand right up to the screen, you'll keep radiating off of it.
But over time, this room with its nine, seven screens, like it gets hot on its own. I don't need to heat it with this room in the window. It's the same. Yeah, I, with this laptop I'm using this for another fridge behind me, it gets pretty warm and my little kitchen note here.
Do they sell like dehumidifier bucket things for like these jelly pellets? Is that like a deal-erizer I'm thinking of? That sounds like a deal-erizer to me. But any possible technology we're, I was quite a bunch of things around.
Yeah. I keep a bunch of things around anyway. We're moving that window where the electric air conditioning in this area is a real shit. Thank you.
Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, it's like our neighbors out back like color trees down so now our back are like, we get afternoon sun in worse ways. The house is up really.
And they cut down all our trees. So they were just like having their pool fill up with garbage. But now it's like it's a weird sweet shot of the sun directly into this yard and the windows and all that other stuff. And fun things like, maybe you're people doing it.
But weird, I do. Now you're people doing it. Technology sounds working trees, the sound, it was just kind of scary. Hey, good on them.
I don't know. Better to add the nonstop fireworks, I guess. I should even actually be broke fast. So I'm not really making them do it.
And that's, yeah, I look at my next door app unfortunately, and it's just a bunch of people either being very bad people or conspiracy theorists. It's great. I have a software. I have a software which is going to be on point.
It's very confusing. It was just after the babies and the dogs. Yeah. For sure.
They banned fireworks here finally. They used to allow the same thing saying whatever stuff they would do a public show. And it's pretty obvious. They would do public show.
They'd come on the ropes for last few years. And then they finally came out to like, hey, I don't know what this area catches on fire every year of bad. And we're not going to be on fireworks. But yeah, the stuff I've not had in high fire was here the way it seemed to be in the rest of the entire nation has.
Well, yeah, like you said, one of the most last few years experience with the control wildfires would be just virtually doing that around your bullet. That's it. I think you're asking for a level of awareness that often exists, really. People are going about this country.
Prior to the flight of good, the weather right. Yeah. It's going right. Yeah.
The experiment continues. Yes, indeed. But hey, I've been sleeping a little bit better in the last few years. There we go.
Yeah, in terms of taking what I can get, family. This is the right with the solar light. Yeah, back in the next chapter. I'm perspective assignments today.
So we got three for here. Jan with three for three for comments. OK. Yeah, Jan does this one by three overlay over later.
But the end of the end of the end of the end of the day, you know, you have channels already finest. I have an exam sign. The status pings in the games, right? We're just going to do this week because there's a lot to do through.
Yeah. So we figured we'd just go ahead and tackle that stuff up front. Unfortunately, probably the biggest reason for that is not clearly positive. But there's another state of accusations of sexual assault harassment and creation and all sorts of stuff in that vision.
Yes. Somewhat in games with all that mean, like the surveillance officer obviously is the most prominent figure. But I think, yeah, a lot of it's also been across like special wrestling and these sorts of extreme world. Yeah, it's a handful of just a lot of stuff across the board for sure.
And it's like stuff that you like. You don't expect it out of some people. But at the same time, I don't know what to. I don't know.
It's a. Yeah, well, why don't you get into the details here? Yeah, that one's stuff. I mean, this is like a sort of looking for an August figure.
And then the whole game volume, I mean, it's a little bit around for. Yeah, his name is his name is. Yeah, right now. Yeah, he's written a lot of writing for a lot of games.
People have joked more recently that man, it seems like that guy's working on every single video game coming out. You know, whether it was something like two or he was associated with vampire with a paper. I'm actually going to go on two. Yes, I also have a lot of stuff in our.
And you know, it just seemed like that guy was on every single game coming out. Any game where they were like, hey, we're doing everything. We brought a guy that you like for that. And his stuff seems gross.
Yeah. So I was a little bit like a little bit like a thing from multiple people of trying to think that's what I mean. It's like getting when I'm like, I'm thinking about you're thinking about you and sort of things of that nature really. And I feel like maybe I mean, that's obviously shocking.
But I always started saying the most shocking thing is it's not like why people in like institutional positions were aware of this stuff. Because they were talking about like management at I don't think the studio was named for myself. They're talking about like management at studio that's been placed out as well. And like kind of what they happened for a while.
And they're talking about like political conventions. Huh, so like that was the real one that really was like, you know, conventions are not run by like more people. You know, there's like, it's like, right. And that's sort of thing.
Like if that's already rep, then how does this happen now? And how did it not happen a while ago? Or yeah, it's and I guess like that's just like perceived power like the perception that someone can harm your career if you speak out against them like all other stuff. It's it's.
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But that's like that's like why is it supposed to happen on social media? Also, it's because there's a collective there that can support each other to a certain extent and say, hey, this happened to me as well. This happened. It's literally why we call it me too is why it is called me too.
Because in those numbers, there's more strength. And that's helping people get the courage to see how to get some people that have found their way in these positions. And it's just fucking terrible. That's just fucking terrible.
Yeah, we obviously came to you for the stuff to take social media, but there's not currently there's a formalized place to support you. That's right. What I think if you're saying, hey, some studios do about this, hey, these conventions do about this. And that didn't do it.
Like at some point, what are you supposed to? What formal process would actually solve the problem? And I think the answers that these formal processes are failing people. Do they have a lot of people?
I think they need the dimensions here. The question they just talk about, they got a lot of one, and then they get to another, and then they have them there. It's like they acted to protect their own sort of fear, I guess, and they're like, oh, can we limit them into like, this is a problem everywhere. Not just at tax or whatever, whatever.
And that's what you're talking about. So anyway, he was free and it's writing for it. Six hundred games, I feel like, yeah, I feel like they're more on the three or so that you mentioned. But as of now, Techland, who's doing something like two, paradox, who's publishing.
Let's see. Paradise Publishing, I'm here. There's a game called Waylanders from, sorry, got those to be involved, they can come out and cut ties with them. Obviously, it was in the case of a vampire that they'd say that none of his contributions were actually in the, what would have made it through to the final part of their data.
They'd make it somewhere, they already got enough. So you can be briefly worked on it. They already got a team, and they really got on the game through an iterative free process. Notice contributions remain in the game that four, two, one, to be developed.
All right. In case of Techland, they run out, like they have him come to be about the game, right? I mean, that was like, over a stage figure for that game, right? So they've got ties and I can't go back and all right.
And all that stuff. But the games are kind of the least important part of this. I mean, it's that people being intimidated out of this industry completely to just the variety of outcomes that happen when people like this are allowed to continue to do their thing. Yeah.
Yeah. So unfortunately, this seems to have a capacity-bounding. Right. Not obviously bigger than anyone guy, one person here.
Yeah. There's just just simply just people exploiting perceived positions of power, slash fame and a community, whatever you want to call it. I think that you see that across a lot of different industries. You saw the stuff that was coming out of professional wrestling over the last handful of days.
Even Dave's journalism, of course. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of, yes, you see situations like this across the board.
And like, you know, it's sort of like, I was involved in a local band scene for a while. And there were definitely people in positions perceived power in a small scene like that. We were able to exploit people. And it is the same thing.
And that's, yeah. I don't know. I'm a mess about this stuff. And I don't have a good clean way to talk about it.
Because it's not a clean situation. It's a, you know, I think the thing, you know, we've had a couple of people, like whatever, we interviewed, like, last three, right? The Presabulum is happening. Yeah.
Those chairs there. And we interviewed him. There have been a handful of people in past years and stuff like that. And I think people look at the stage.
And it's, of course, like, you know, we've never knowingly put someone that we felt was like, an ongoing threat of abuse and all of that stuff. And we never want to put them on our platform. We try to do the right thing on that front, you know, when we can. But I think the other thing is, you know, sometimes there are people that assume that every single person that's ever been on the website, whether it's interview, especially in an interview capacity, that we're just the best friends and all such stuff.
And it's like, I don't, you know, like people especially around each three times, they come in for interviews. And that's it. People I talk to you once a year, give that. And that's the right thing.
And yeah, it's, it's just a, it's a bad situation. And I don't, like, trying to figure out like how to navigate through some of this stuff. And then you're like, hey, well, of course, we don't want to put these people, we want to associate with these people, right? You know?
And then the same time figuring out the line of just like, okay, well, obviously, people are pouring cream on the cracks and doing things that are just like, playing the line, like, okay, fuck, all right, this easy call. And then, you know, you get a number to remove the calls and mercury or mercury, but it does come out to you just like, well, what are the sort of people you want to surround yourself with? And those are things. And then there's the values that you want to try to advance as a lot of them, right?
Exactly. Yeah. And we want this to be a good force of good for video games or whatever that means, but more than that, the internet or whatever. We don't want to be associated with people that have been in these sorts of situations.
And that's messy and it's human and it's disgusting. And it's because of the way a lot of this stuff happens and it happens when we turn into this, okay, well, we're just these hugely messy situations. And it's not always a really clear look. But what's the right thing to do in this specific case and having to talk things through with people around you.
What do you think about that? So I've been trying to do with some of the stuff that's trying to figure out like, some of these are not always a kind of right. Some of these other situations where you're looking like, clearly this is not, this is not something I want to hear of. It's not always that easy.
And we try to do what's right now. And it takes time for sort of something in terms of information. Yeah, you got to figure some stuff out sometimes. Yeah, it's a messy, disgusting process.
But I want people to be better. I want this platform to be always improving in those sorts of situations. Like that's not something I want this place to be known for and that sort of stuff. And so we've had people over the years that have been on podcasts, we've had people that have shown up live events that we've done.
And that's our stuff over the years that we've associated with for time. And it's a point that we can't. I personally, so any business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles, design or marketer logistics manager, all while bringing your vision to life.
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I know, it's hard to think about. I don't have a clean, it's disgusting, you know? And I just think about how fuck, like why fuck is wrong with people that they feel is need to be predatory in these spaces, is it just, you know, is it a factor of like, oh, you have people who are coming to games that were not well liked in school, were not, you know, were on the other side of some divide, suddenly they're like, oh, I've got a little bit of cloud here, and then they just immediately turn into the worst pieces of shit just like the people they hated it. I don't know, I don't know what the causes are.
I don't, you can start to pick at that and think about like those sorts of structures of power and how do we make it better? But fuck, it's just, it's been so much for so long, it's just fucking disgusting. And we keep having conversation. It's not like, oh, I can't believe it, I can't believe it, I can't believe it.
The world is still like this, especially, you think that these, it's not like, some of these some bags would, I just self-preservation almost would be like, oh, I can't be this type of decision anymore because it's like it's open season on garbage like me, but I just keep fucking having it. Don't let me know if you've internalized any other than others knew, and then you go back even like one years or more, and sure, I think about how little it was, so this thing like, you started to get into a sense of like, the opportunity with wish to do a lot of these types of people to operate, that's true, that's true. That's true, you're right, you're right. And it's a good thing that ultimately that these sorts of people can be kind of dragged out into the light the way they, in a way they weren't before.
Yeah, it's, yeah, no, there's a whole, there's a whole tangent I was about to launch it to about, like, I think a lot of these podcasts about wrestlers and what wrestling was like in the 70s and 80s, and how it's, you know, how a lot of things were in the 70s and 80s, and it was a really interesting situation. Yeah, it's everything, it is, but those are the podcasts I'm listening to, so you know, you're that stuff's like, oh, it's terrible, at least it's not like that anymore, oh, no, it is, and the game's kind of the same way, you're a lot of stories about, oh, it's already hot tub culture, and so I'm like, you know, talk about, you know, but like, think about, I mean, Brad, you and I have experience in this industry, that goes back to, you know, like the thing that I used to say a lot that I think is like, you know, it was always like half joking, but it was a thing like, you kind of have to be like a functional alcohol to be in this business for a long period of time, because of the number of events that you go to, they're full on over the bar. And we've had moments in our past that I'm incredibly not fucking proud of around the time when we allowed hosts and guests to drink more on camera. And, you know, those sorts of things led to me, finally, I'm just not gonna fucking drink it game, but I'm not like, it's not, or I'm not gonna, I'm gonna leave myself out there, you know?
Like, and I'm able to do that obviously, some people are not, and I've always, a whole separate problem, but I think you have a lot of people that get at these environments where they're coming to this corporate party with this open bar, and people take that as like, overseas and to be gigantic piece of shit, and you know, these things are just like, well, we were drinking, what, I don't know. And, you know, obviously there's a lot of personal responsibility involved in there, if you're gonna drink at these events and stuff like that, you know, you hold them on the people, make your own voices about that, that one aspect of this. But the environment, the expectations of what socializing industry can often look like, have always been that. Do you have a sense of is it still that way?
Like, I'm sure you feel the same way, but it's something I got old and started a bit. And I'm like, we don't get invited to a lot of things. But the course of 1030, but I've got a sense of like every pass or every kind of of edge, and we go to, there's always like, anything else seems like it's hard, you've got bigger and more, I don't know, like, political, like for like, it's a different crowd if you think about it. Like, there is now an aspect of somebody's pass up.
So as a rule, and I break the rule here and there, as a rule, I try to not go to pass parties. Because some of them seem so focused on, like, we're gonna rope these streamers and influencers in here and do this sort of thing. So it's like, oh, it's the IT room. Like, we really want to like, like, our fucking e-port amount pass, whatever the fuck it is.
It's a variety of things. But generally speaking, I try to go to parties that are not for things. I'm looking for, I guess I would say, like, there's zero coverage reasons to go too hardy. And there's like, no, good, like, yeah, it's actually a pass where it just doesn't seem like a pass I tend to get together with people that I know and have stories.
And that's kind of like, I'm actually like, I do a string around a game in these days, it's like, it's a handful of people together. Well, whatever. And that's something that's, you know, some of that, this we end around, some of the allegations against a lot of stringers and stuff like that is you saw a pass party come up in more than once in terms of just like, oh, well, you know, this person sat with me at this party until I got drunk and then left with me and this happened. And this was, and so yeah, I think that the party seemed still, as you know, it's a little different now.
I think it's not just the like press and developers. It's like, I mean, it's not really a decision. We're making it back then. It was like, it was like a bar with like 12 kiosks with game and previewing right next to it, right?
It was a four-year-old sell time. But also, like, that's not too blame and I'm partying seeing it's more just to say that provides an opportunity right before. Exactly. There's a lot of situations to where people are predatory can more potentially thrive in an environment like that.
I think. And yeah, I mean, yeah, like I said, that's just, you know, they're been a bit of an icon to, um, it's been for noon in a run of fee three where they're like, we've got those in or something like that. And I was like, fucking, oh, fucking, thanks. I wonder if that's absolutely not.
And I don't know. Like, I don't, again, like, you know, I don't want to blame these people's actions on alcohol. Like, that's not, but it's certainly a high-street-assert type of environment that bless those people. Um, try to get away with something.
I think it's an excuse when it's not, you know, yeah. Um, yeah. I don't know that I have much. I had, yeah, we talked for hours, you know, about how fucking discussing this is.
And, and, and, and in the early three of the Westside, honestly, like, there are, you know, like, we, you know, a lot of drinking, we had a bar in office, the one point, how do you lock shut? Um, you know, it, it, that we lock shut during this time. Because someone could not do that. Uh, you know, we, I would have been, I would have been, I would have been, with the moment, I think it was the first moment where I was like, this is not what I want to know for.
And this was years years ago. And I went to, I didn't want it as you go. And like, I'm like, I'm working on that deal. And the, the guy doing VR for it, uh, is it like, oh, yeah, you know, you want to, you want to water?
Sorry, I don't have beers. And I was just like, is that the, is that what we have, because is that what this is? Is this on people? Because I sure don't want to be that.
I mean, the one for better words we played some of that out for what we felt like were probably just like, yeah, reasons of being zany or not like, like, like, like, like, like, you know, like, what about like, yeah, we put that in that image in some ways to try to portray ourselves from the relatively stuffy. And I guess I was talking about that age of video, but yeah, no, that was a time that was fun. We were different things. I would rather be part of the conversation.
I would not be able to project an image that was all over. Even then, that was kind of, that was back in my more prime drinking days, I guess I would say, but even that I was not, uh, you know, I'm not drinking every day. That's your nature. Um, anyway, we kind of got off of it.
Yeah. But, um, yeah, uh, it's a, it's a real mess. And um, it will continue to be one. over.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. But, you know, the only thing to do is just try to be better.
Right. It doesn't treat value with the same kind of thing that you want to treat with. Sounds pretty awesome. Yeah.
Yeah. You think. Yeah. So, uh, see, like, there's a lot of big last time, but, uh, that seems to be where it seems for a moment.
Right. Um, there is, honestly, it feels like you'll be on to. I'm actually like, this is deals. Like, yeah.
Yeah. But, yeah. It's, uh, it is, you know, like it is trivial to move on to rest. That said, other news happens.
Yeah. We're going to do a show and talk about the rest of this stuff. But, uh, but, yeah. So, we're going to get some of this on our language and then pain and probably all kinds of stuff.
Yeah. Are there right now that we need to acknowledge? Yes. Um, anyway, that's a Microsoft Windows move.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, obviously, like this is not even like this is not painted, you know, but this is the story for like two or three reasons is also fairly fairly funny.
I mean, the story is that they shut down. Yeah. How do we do it? Yeah.
Yeah. So, you know, the next one is the one month, um, you'll have four, which was a July 20th. We'll be when, when Mixer shuts down. That's the course.
The former Beamed. Pro. Um, which Microsoft purchased and changed. And they didn't own the, that was a control market in every category.
I think it was the story of why they couldn't stick with, with Beamed. That was pretty good, because we're getting free service. It was a real good name. Um, so, you know, them doing something with Mixer, I guess, isn't that you just surprised other than you kind of thought Microsoft would be being after stick with it.
But, you know, people don't get the numbers after this announcement. And it's all like, a conversation. I was just having a conversation with someone about like Ninja and some of the other people that signed to Mixer to two deals. And the notion of like, man, this doesn't seem like it worked out.
Like they did not bring the numbers from Microsoft service. They did not help that service grow. And, uh, there's that notion of like, hopefully they're saving their money because the end of this deal, I got Microsoft will, will back the truck up again with more tens of millions of dollars. Yeah.
Because like I said, they show they've been visiting the game. Could bring those numbers right to the platform. Right. They did not peel enough people off of which to make Mixer, uh, to make Mixer happen.
It's like, like, if I'm wrong, like they got their contract paid out off of this, right? So, I'm not understanding as I believe it was the version of that. I'm not positive. But, yeah, that's great for the managing, all number of people who took eight-figure deals over there.
That's not so great for people. They're a part of their business. I think people who had a, a small, like very dedicated community. And they went through the rear a little bit and the name change and all of other stuff.
But, you know, the people that were proud of being on that platform and, you know, whether they're being out of living or not, you know, there was a community, there is a community there still that, like that service. And I feel for them, it's easy to say like, oh, well, let's go to whichever, whatever, I feel that phrase like, like, you know, that concepts is feel a little bit like, like, I'm not finding a way to have it. So, I guess one benefit there is that the viewers, it's not like they just appear what makes your goes on. And I think that's the difference with some of these people left, which for mixer is, you know, mixer goes away at some point.
So, the viewers will have to go somewhere and maybe that gives them an opportunity to, like, hey, I'm here now, I'm here, but they don't start from zero, right? But, yes, I'm happy that it's a really good job. Well, even if you're not, like, next, right? And, but at the same time, I'm so excited to have this, is that they're going to redirect mixer to fucking face what game it got.
I'm not sure what I was thinking of mixer, I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm going to be most things work. Yeah, but I feel like Facebook gaming has not seen, like, a viable platform for people streaming traditional video game. I frankly did not know what they were like. Like, is that, what I'm talking about, what I'm talking about, I don't know, I don't know, I know some people stream their names on Facebook, that's all I know, that's right, that's right, that's right, you can hear that, that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right, like, like, I've seen them out there finding deals with some streamers, I have a very sweet idea.
Yeah, Facebook's been trying to build a lot of exclusive talent, and do that thing. And people that are partners on mixer, they do transitions of Facebook gaming, they become partners there, and so there's some sad stuff and things that, like Facebook's trying to roll out some form of a part of it, do people that met that bar on mixer, do try to keep them there, but honestly, it's really hard for me to envision a scenario where most of those streamers don't get to go right to Twitch. I think the thing we learned from Ninja, and the thing that I think, other people have tried to do this on YouTube in the past, something we always wondered about, if this was something that was going to be, like, the Twitch audience, the Twitch audience come off of, like, what do they care about, what do they care about, what do they care about, the Twitch ecosystem? And I think what the mixer deal proved is, they'll just find somebody else.
Yeah, not saying it's bad, we did, or whatever, like, I want to act as people who are hated here, just that I think that audience's group's time again, if someone gets banned, if someone gets somewhere else, and is like, hey, come follow me here, like, no, those people are bigger than the platform, no, those people are bigger than the group, they will be in the form, right? Like, yeah, there's only so much distinction between different people and their own, and all of the things that you're playing, right? I mean, you can put on with me if I can think of it, as you want, you're still doing that thing, right? Also, I suspect that people even only care about the platform so much, right?
People, like, people, like, they're literally still going to Twitch out of leadership, right? It's just because they're not telling you something to go through, they're just like, they're like, yeah, they've already put money into the platform, and the forms of restrictions are bad, so whatever, they have people to watch, like, they watch eight channels and one leaves, like, whatever, like, like, I'm still over here, right? And there's no different services, like whatever, all these other details, that void fills very quickly. Totally.
And there's no shortage of content in those sorts of spaces. I think, you know, it's the same type of people that get on YouTube, and then think, like, man, it's probably nice if we could pivot into some kind of subscription service, or pivot into some other kind of thing here, and finding that maybe their version rates are not what they thought they would be. And I think, I think that, like, like, seeing that happen is one of the things that makes me only want to go so far with external services, as regards to do our stuff. I mean, if we were fully in on YouTube, we're fully on Twitch or something like that.
But actually, you know, we could be more people that we would be right now. If we were 100% YouTube folks, we could be bigger than we are right now. It's also the potential that we can bring in more money that we do right now. But you then are shooting any kind of external, like, like, like, right now, we just kind of run our own thing to a certain extent, and it gives us some freedoms with the type of content we can do, and being able to be away from some of the content ID nests, and then not having to care about that stuff as much.
But that's the thing we both have from the beginning. I think that's the, it's just kind of a point of the idea, like, you know, if you are YouTube first and try to pivot out of it, put a toe in as much as we want. Like, you know, it'd be nice to be around Twitch. Great to be around YouTube.
But all that is still in service of like, all that only matters if it then leads to people coming back to us, and potentially signing up for our premium service. You know, like, that's the business, right? So, so yeah, we're going to platform like, just sound and then just go get a set of the wind. It feels like a weird and non-opportunity.
Like now everyone that's reading to make sure that they paid out on some of the deal is like, you kind of have to themselves to a certain extent, and decide like, do they want to take whatever olive branch Facebook game, you're going to give them, right? Do you see if they can maintain their, given the audiences? I feel like the age range we're talking about here, I'm not left with the impression that like the typical audience or the game live streams, that's speaking also from experience that they want to be on Facebook, ever. Yeah, it's RAM, most even then these days, I feel like that's, you know, Instagram is what used to be either.
I'm not a super tangible or for a field of this topic, but my question from people that type of type of Facebook is, Facebook is kind of a long-term audience or attention crisis, right? Yeah, what new users are like, wake up in the morning, all right, sign up for Facebook, what's happening? I'm talking about 14-year-olds, I'm like, what's going to Facebook? It's, yeah, it's just boobers going from the end of from three-week order, right?
Anyway, I'm so on Facebook, I should have thought I'd be the only thing that's not me from the activated early, like, how long ago it was just the legacy craft of like, what do you mean, what do you mean, what do you know, we still haven't paid on Facebook for whatever that's worth, and maybe we shouldn't, and also there are a handful of people that I don't keep up with anyway. Sure, yeah, there's family members and then there's like a little chunk of people that's like, okay, they're not on Twitter, they're not on Twitter, they're not going to send me a DM on Discord, they're not, you know, that's not the only way to keep up with a certain family service, which honestly, that's not something I should have thought about, maybe they're off without, they're all supposed themselves as a guy, maybe I shouldn't have been a lot better than this. Anyway, the picture thing is just like an extreme illustration of, you know, the receiver's kind of any other hopes on the wins of the generation, right? Right, so you see these things, so it's like, you see a changing the way that they're, I don't know, what your amount of decision works over and over and stuff, whatever, like people in masters, are made of decisions, something right?
Exactly, that's what we feel, there's just some different aspect of just like, these videos are making monetized, and it's like, well, well, why, they never quite explain why. So, how do the blues ones, do you think they call like their major partners like, oh, those guys probably, they probably had to be like, they're actually actually, they're probably like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're just like, yeah, sometimes you've had, sometimes, often times, sometimes they move that way, a soldier being to be protected by our, or not all until it is happening for reasons that, like, we can't leave, whatever, the reason that our elect trusts in those employees, you know, you're about to like, oh, so they trust you, I think that the entire core is really good and we tried to switch to it here and there, just when we were doing external frames or whatever, we tried to use it. This is some complaints here in there, people that maybe the mixer tech, the mixer player was a little too heavy for order computers and other that they run in these issues, on these days when you want to happen to that at the upper hole. That's your latency for calling up with.
Yeah. Well, you know, which is how better to get to the place. Yeah. It was, which is lower than it was.
They were in the direction for sure. Yeah. But yeah, the mixer technology was fascinating and cool. And that, but you know, Microsoft didn't make it work on.
You know, they were never going to catch which. Like, you know, they took their best shots by going and plugging major Twitch streamers to try with some shine on that service or something. You know, give people a reason to check it out. And, you know, they built it in games.
What happens to force their rise in? It's like influence. Like you earn, you know, it's like streaming it to mixer. Or, you know, some of these other things.
And they try to handle it for ways to, you know, integrate it into the Xbox one. They're relatively high level. And, yeah, we've got totally reason questions of like, we don't know what it's doing. It's actually like, is there going to be a big fan, Facebook gaming talent on it?
That sounds terrifying. Yeah. It does sound great. And I guess I also know that this, you know, the goal is to get project X cloud stuff in front of the Facebook audience and kind of go that way with interest.
That would be that that would be one of the other parts of this deal or just a kind of range of the, they've done the Facebook is to, you know, try to reach that audience, which if, you know, if a lot of people on Facebook gaming or streaming games and free stuff, they load the bar entry to, you know, other video games, do that crowd. Maybe that's not that. That actually makes this choice a lot more sense because like, people who have a direct competitor to X cloud, right. And so on.
So, like, if you're just waiting for them to announce somewhere. Right. So, like, Facebook obviously is not in the radio style. You know, not in the network.
So, like, they probably figured out what the place or what that stuff. But at the same time, I think, you know, doing a deal with Facebook right now. That'll look great. Sorry.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like it was incredibly about to be a lot of them.
So, people working with their, like, there seems to be entirely coincidental that there were some, there's some kind of racist practices in the middle of the company. Like, the hours before this stuff happens. Yeah. Which, I mean, everybody involves getting out and saying, hey, it's called your house, I think it's like, of course, then, of course, then, you know, you know, a little bit of a decision like that.
That's a lot of hours. No. That's the problem. You know, this is a larger thing.
Of course, you know, obviously, like, to that end, which isn't always seen like it's done right by its speakers and protected their partners and then all that sort of stuff. And there's a lot of around that as well. Yeah. So, I guess that covers all that.
Seems like it. Pretty a broad thing. Just out there yesterday. Speaking of a deal with Facebook.
Yeah. Who makes, I will never be the straight one. I was the one that everybody loves the zero G sports game. Right.
Lone echo was the single player one. I think it was the multiplayer offshoot. I think. Like you, I can never keep those great.
But yes, they're developers. I mean, right on, right on, we'll always be the actor for P of D. All the order. Yeah.
Yeah. I'll make order to do six. But really, really pretty. Yeah.
Yeah. They did quite well for themselves with that. I mean, as I forgot, that was very well received. And quickly became a part like, I was just emotional.
Okay. Look at this awesome stuff that we're not going to have to publish by. I'm going to say, I'm going to remember correctly. So this is them taking a studio that's driven that they can do multiple products in VR.
And then one of the studios out there doing software can be already acquiring it. So if you're holding out for a doctor too, you'd like someone else. So if you actually sell a word, I'm not them. Right.
We're doing your. I just got this out, I just started to look up on what we're talking about. I guess I just discontinued it. I can just go.
There's a tweet from one hour ago from the Oculus. I can't say other counts. I mean, I'll start playing with you since that. I can't say other accounts.
I can't say other accounts. Sure. Sure. So there's that.
Any question about a lot of the go stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
More or less. Yeah. So there's a reality for week. Um, man.
What was your first reaction when you saw the proximity game? They very well, the issue is why I'm game. As a comic fan, I do not understand the sudden fascination with the suicide squad. I never heard of them before they made that movie.
I'll tell you things about that. Yeah. I don't know if it's like the people just being a bunch of curves and being really far-liqued in or like fans of teen Titans wanting stuff like that. I don't know.
I don't know. Will Smith was in that movie, right? Yeah. That's who it was.
Maybe two. Yeah. John Cena's going to be in the sequel though. Okay.
And I'm afraid it's going to sell me on it because I think the teases also in it. Okay. So I don't know. And Will Smith will be in the second one.
I don't know if that's it. So all the comments on domain names that were registered by a couple of either peers to be guided or others. I guess these are not for tonight or other. You're a gamer.
Is he or in at least any guess what you're for the same things? Yeah. The domains that were registered were suicide squad. He'll adjust to the ee.com.
Which, uh, you're a gamer. What your gamer describes that domain is as quote, unquote, title and the good summation of what you can expect from your next project. It's like, is it prison labor? Like, it's like fricking fires but super villains out there.
Save people like. Yeah. It's like they live up to the name. The government or whoever is sending the villains out to do during work that like the big superheroes won't want to do or like their two dangerous scenarios that they don't want to put a soldier or whoever in the jeopardy.
So like these guys are supposed to throw them away. It's like the X force with the X man. Or the power of the dirty dozens. Yeah.
It's exactly like these tables. Okay, you know you're selling it now. I've always been lately in different examples. I was seeing something that would be right in my alley and then I was like, that's okay now.
I don't know. I love concept. My first time in information, I was like, maybe feels a little sad. I don't know.
I feel like that's not just a case for all the disease movies. I mean, I mean, you know, it's a few of the things we've ever seen. So I was only about watching the aging ocean heroes of my youth. The old is just kind of like thinking about mortality as these styles are just, just, you know, sure.
So I guess it's way too heavy. So yeah, that sounds like kind of the gist of what they got about the last of the last of the last of the game was our night. Exactly. So we're taking the night part of that and running with it maybe.
What's the end of rock stage? Yes, that's all. It says that these are going to these little tees, not necessarily announced, something that we'll be talking about these games at the DC fandom events. Fan Dose, Fan Dose, where the fandom's fight's finally waiting.
It's kind of how it out. Who is the worst fandom? Find out the fandom. Kind of into the worst fandom.
Well, that's an August or so. I need Brendan Fraser to be like the host of the fandom because if he's done anything good, these past couple years with their media is given Brendan Fraser a second chance. Yeah. Yeah.
But he was he was a rock of the 90s and he really lost. Right. And then he was a rock show up and he did that movie together and the rock took it. Yeah.
And like just use the sorbing king powers to take it and lead it on Brendan Fraser. And it'll what happened. Imagine the way with the rock in the meg. No, it's just what this guy's favorite movie.
He's called I think it's called the size. Imagine that with Brendan Fraser. I have to get that. I didn't see it.
I'm talking to be more likely to see Brendan Fraser. He's like, in fact, in the size of his life. He's like, I believe in every man. Yeah.
And you see what I'm saying. You're like, he'll be fine. Yeah. Imagine he's a shot with Brendan Fraser.
So you're like, man, you just have to call it. He'll be fine. No, no, the rock will be fine. Also you were totally right that they actually made a movie called the skyscraper.
There's a bit of a movie called earthquake yet. Oh, there. Yeah, but that's exactly what happened to years ago. The sandrais is the earthquake.
There's always a lot of people say that because then people say, hey, you're about sandrais too. You're like, oh, shit. I should be okay. Yes.
Based on this success of that meme, we're bringing back grand $1.0. Sandrais. So yeah, this is supposedly the south of my team. That's the thing that has been teased with some cord bells stuff for a while.
Just something that I'm not familiar with. That's actually pretty neat. Yeah, it's a cord bells. It's like just imagine a group of evil Batman.
Batman's evil people, which is really fine with killing people. It's like, it's like, what's a be the Gotham Knights? Oh, no, Batman has to fight against them as the knight is good. Yes.
Consider them like evil knights. And then Batman is possibly being like the good knights. But there's like Ray area because you know, owls of that. Yeah.
They're the Illuminati. I remember now. Yeah. Okay.
But so is Batman. Yeah. He's always got three man secrets of society, right? Like him and Robin Alfred.
And then we're talking about, I don't know. Prince. Go on. Have your own bad dance.
Sure. Well, did you see that you see that? Holy shit. They talk that they're going to let Michael keep playing Batman.
I need to play Batman. I need to play Batman. That's my Batman. I am extremely with you.
I'm of the age that I remember when Batman came out on DHS and was like 20 bucks. And it was like, there's normally videotaped cost $100 and it changed the game. I was usually telling you I was 10 years old. The first ever man came out.
But in my memory it was like the biggest fucking control event in history. It was like you had to get all them similar. We had to cut so ever fast we played at the cuz you had to get those fucking cuffs. You listened to Batman and I got fucking psyched.
All you did that summer was trying to see me was sick as fuck. And you saw Batman a few times and then it came out on DHS and was like, affordable because we could take so only be sold for mental. So they sold them for outrageous prices because they knew the rental place is good afford it. But nobody said like no, we're just out of Batman for 15, 20, whatever it was.
And then all the rental places just had it like it's all over again. Like we're moving, we're having all the bad shit all over it. And then all the videos were just having it shit everywhere. So come on your body.
There's a line out of fucking door to get Batman VHS tapes. And I've been in that fucking line. I believe there is still a VHS tape. Pre-tail VHS, you just got me in my hearing station.
The last good DC movie. I never heard this guy, Mares. No. I never saw the Joltz movie.
I know I had no idea the Joltz movie falling down with the fuck. But anyway, whatever. I just wanted to say, I just wanted to say, I could have done it like, I love my team. Anyway, that sounds cool to me.
Like, I feel like I feel like I was a little bit poor as him. I saw him in something, and he was a little too much for, he was that, and then a lot of that was really cool. I think the larger thing for me was having done that stuff in three games. Like, Ark of Origins was kind of my breaking point.
I was just like, okay. I really, really liked those first two games. And then everything after that felt like, you know, I've done a lot of this already. And it's not, it's maybe not different enough to get further the basic, which is different like the, like the detective mode, like solve the prime stuff in Origins and then all the bad stuff in that last one.
Just kind of, it didn't feel vital and necessary the same way those first two games. I actually can't. Incredible. I still think first and the best.