EPISODE · Jan 20, 2026 · 23 MIN
Give Me Credit Episode 23
from Give Me Credit · host J.S. Whaldo and John A Mackey
Episode 23: Inside the Debt Collection System and the Course Teaching Consumers How to Navigate ItIn this episode of the Give Me Credit podcast, mortgage expert J.S. Whaldo interviews credit authority John Mackey about the debt collection industry, the surge in consumer debt lawsuits, and why most people lose simply because they do not understand the legal process.Mackey explains that debt collection is driven by procedural pressure, not personal circumstance. Missed deadlines, oversharing with collectors, or assuming a debt is valid without proof often result in default judgments, wage garnishment, and frozen bank accounts. Collectors rely on confusion and fear to move cases through the system quickly.This conversation also introduces Mackey’s new educational course on the debt collection process, with course modules beginning to roll out in January. The course is designed to teach consumers how to demand written verification, require proof of debt ownership, and use consumer protection laws to slow cases down and protect their rights.Rather than encouraging confrontation, the course focuses on calm, methodical responses that force collectors to follow the law. This episode provides listeners with a preview of the course's framework and explains why procedural literacy is the most powerful tool consumers have when dealing with debt collectors.This episode is essential for anyone facing debt collection, concerned about a lawsuit, or wanting to understand their consumer rights before fear and pressure take control. Get full access to Mortgage Lending Explained at jswhaldo.substack.com/subscribe
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