EPISODE · Sep 10, 2026 · 1H 20M
Going Boy Sober & Decentering Men with Dee Salmin ~ Ep 55
from Up Past Bedtime · host Bella Messina
What happens when you stop making romantic love the centre of your entire world… and start expecting the men in your life to actually meet your standards? 👀 This week I’m joined by Dee Salmin, host of The Hook Up and author of It’s Not Love Actually, for a VERY overdue conversation about men, love, relationships and all the things we simply refuse to settle for anymore. After reading Dee’s book, I had approximately 400 things I wanted to talk to her about, so we’re getting into ALL of it. Being “Boy Sober”, radically decentering men, why “women who hate men have the best boyfriends”, the difference between hating men and simply refusing to lower our standards for them, and why women who expect more from their relationships are so often told they’re bitter, jaded or destined to die alone. Which is particularly funny considering Dee and I are both in very loving relationships 💀 This is a big, juicy conversation about loving men without centering them, having high standards without apologising for them, and building a life so full that a relationship has to genuinely add to it to deserve a place in it. ♥️ Up Past Bedtime with Bella Messina is your go-to for late-night, unfiltered chats... the kind of conversations you’d have with your closest girlfriends. From relationships to motherhood, no topic is off-limits as Bella, a 30-something mum of two, invites you into candid conversations with inspiring women and shares her own raw stories. This podcast is where you’ll feel seen, heard, and completely understood. So get comfortable, because the best conversations happen when you’re up past bedtime. WANT MORE FROM DEE? You can purchase her book 'It's Not Love Actually' on Amazon Subscribe to her 'No Chill Girl' substack Listen to her on Triple J's 'The Hook Up' podcast Dee's Instagram: @dee.salmin Dee's TikTok: @deesalmin HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE?! Contact us on the UPB Hotline: [email protected] UPB Socials: Instagram: @uppastbedtimepodcast Tik Tok: @uppastbedtimepodcast Watch on Youtube: Here Or Email Us: [email protected] Bella’s Socials: Instagram: @bellsmessina Tik Tok: @bellsmessina
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