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I want to introduce to you, at least from Philly, but it's fine. Chris Ryan! Torture Jets fan, hosted the big picture, Sean Fennissi. For the first time ever, the four of us with this guy, Ryan Rassilla.
So, we were going to do a library watchable about Good Will Hunting, but Rassilla wanted to do two hours on Stephen A. and LeBron. Where this guy's going to work it out, what's happening? Feel like that's done.
Okay. Now, we're doing Good Will Hunting because we're in Boston. We got this Coolidge Corner movie theater. We're doing high-speed movies in Boston.
Maybe this weekend, including this one. We did this on the rewatchables first year. We didn't have a lot of the categories yet, so we're doing it again. And for me, I'm going to do Boston movie mount rush more quickly.
I don't know if there's a right answer, but for me, the verdict Good Will Hunting in the town has to be in the three. And then I think the four spots are people. Is there anyone that has to be in there for your reseller? Well, I was going to yell at a party, but I don't, I like the town so much better than the department.
I'm glad you went that way. Yeah, how about you, Sean? Celtic, Brian, Fever, Pitch. Pick one.
Chris, I don't think you it's the departed. Even though a lot of New York is still the departed or Toronto. Yeah, when we did the departed, we had a lot of thoughts about Nicholson's Boston accent, which was from the Bronx. What part of New York was that accent actually from?
I know this is a big thing for me and reseller. Yeah, I, Walber, not a close friend, but we were doing promotion for Patriots Day. You guys both love fitness though. Yeah, sure.
I know. He ended, I always love how like really makes celebrities and interviews in a way that you're like, hey, man, maybe next time we'll just do it in a person, we'll get a workout in. I was like, awesome. And then he said he closes the zoom and Sarudian I'm like, that's never going to happen.
But he had a great rule because access to be a big part of this discussion is I said, when you were casting for Patriots Day, what did you tell everybody? And he was like, you have one chance. And then if I don't like it, you're just going to talk like a normal person. And I think it's a great rule.
It's a good rule. We got better at it. Yeah, the last 15 years, I feel like we've gotten better at it, especially like movies like Gone Baby Gone and The Town. They actually started using locals.
That's where we were all afternoon. Yeah, Chris and Sean didn't believe me when I was telling them the combat sound stories. I had to send them pictures. Sometimes it'll be on Twitter.
I'm like, combat's on photo. Different times. I mean, this place, we used to be Avalon and Access. I was more partial to Avalon, which I think you were to CR, right?
Access was like a little bit of a different crowd. But yeah, now it's House of Blues. So good well hunting. Damon and Affleck, let's do the backstory of this.
This is Sean, one of the great Hollywood, added nowhere. Although it wasn't really added nowhere because they've opened in some movies, but one of the great better on yourself moments ever, correct? Probably the greatest since Rocky, right? Yeah, anything else?
Those were like the big, early cats. I was living in Boston when this was happening. Were you here then? No, I was still in Vermont.
OK. Because I remember there was an improper Bostonian that came out with those guys in the cover when they were filming it. I must say it was 96 or whatever. And it was like, these guys, local kids, took them years to get this made and now they're making it.
And they're so excited. I was like, oh man, I hope it works out for those wacky kids. And that Damon and I knew him from school ties, new Affleck from Days in Confused. Never thought I'd work out for them.
Like it did like this. And now this became the thing. Chris that I think I don't remember a movie propelling two people at the same time like this. Yeah, and I think it's really cool that they still obviously have a place in their hearts for like, they're like, it's never going to be like that again.
And it's the most special movie I think either of them have ever made to themselves. When you read that oral history, that was in Boston Magazine. You can tell they still think about this experience so clearly. It's kind of like how we feel about Grandma.
Sure. That's right. Yeah, they said there's in that oral history, the first day of shooting, they filmed some scene with a Scars Garden Rebel Williams and Damon Affleck were watching it on the side and they were both bawling. But like, not like sad bawling, like just so happy.
Because it's a five year honestly and the whole backwards of the story was that, there's like a year where they're in Davis Square living there. They'd already spent their money from when they had sold it. It was in turn around a Castle Rock. They're trying to get it made by anybody and they're just kind of living in Somerville doing these other parts and movies, not only this movie, it was ever going to make it.
And the biggest fear they had was they were going to age out of the characters. That they were going to hit their late 20s. Now, as we know from Hollywood, it doesn't matter for each other. So you could have probably been 45 and played this.
Well, it wasn't one of the other things with Castle Rock that they wanted to be the Capri on Pit. There was a Capri on Pit thing and then there was a big thing with the script that the original script, this whole second part of it was a spy caper. Yeah. And the government's after them.
And a couple people gave them the note, just lose the spy ship, man. Just do the first part. Do the first part of the script with the therapist and then that became the movie. And then it's became unclear who, it seemed like Rob Reiner maybe had that note.
Yeah, Goldman had the note too. But I mean, it's still their script. But yeah, I think the NSA scene towards the end of the movie might be one of the remnants of that spy caper. One of the funniest things with this movie was as Castle Rock is basically just giving them the run around.
They get so pissed that these guys are doing that. They write this whole scene where I think Will Huntin gives Lambo a blowjob. And they just put it in there to see if anyone was reading it. And nobody would mention the scene.
And they were like, these fuck guys aren't reading it. And then finally when Harvey Weinstein read it for Miramax, complicated character these days. He was like, leave that in. He, Affleck said he gave two notes.
I don't like the chess thing because they had a part where Will Huntin played chess. He's like, get that out. Dude, what else are you going to be honest with? I'm like, yeah, you're like a spark guy.
And then he's like in the blowjobs, they got to come out. And Damon Affleck, we've got our guy. This is it. He read it all the way.
And then it became, the big thing was Damon got the Rainmaker, which was a John Grisam book. When those Grisam books made it. And they told Harvey. And he was like, oh my god, those movies make 100 billion.
And then all of a sudden they're making it. So five year, honestly, for this, do you want to go through some of the elements of a Boston movie? Where's he looking for in a Boston movie? What are the essentials for you?
I think it would have been quite clever. Although with the newest information. Stock doors knocked out. Yeah, right.
Does anyone have Mint Mobile? Like what the fuck are you texting me from? I think for it to be, I don't know for fixing this movie because I think it was pretty good and people liked it. But I think Damon needs to be hammered on that red line towards the end.
A sober to brain tree. He's going to wake up like North Station going, what? So he's slumped over against that metal. I don't think that's like a, you know, I know he didn't have a car until the end.
I'm so lost right now. No, but I just, I really like that train shot. But I don't think, I don't think Will hunting is sober for that one. C.R., you lived there for five years.
What do you need in a Boston movie? Where are the essentials? I think it's movie captures it. It's like you think it better than me.
It's like all over those four guys and they're constantly fighting against their latin life and Will is there, Will is there like shining star who can break out of it? How about you, Fennissing? I think I should have moved to New York. I feel like I'm getting like really a gritty story, a true story about living in a real city, you know?
My God, Fennissing lost the crowd. Jesus. I wrote a couple things down that I think all the Boston movies have that worked. They use the city, like different parts of the city.
It's always a staple. They get the accents right? You got that at least 90% with the accent, right? Yeah, I mean, if we want to be real difficult, I think in the Boston common scene, which is incredible scene, which I know we'll get to, but Williams has a couple.
Williams stumbles with it. He loses the rent. Quincy Oscar, unbelievable performance. I'm not saying we should take it away.
The R's kind of coming up. How's R I think knew that he didn't have the accent? So he's more of a mystique charisma part, but I think for the most part, they nailed it. Another thing, you just have to involve the Red Sox or Fenway somehow.
There's an overhead shot of Fenway in this movie for no reason at all, but you just have to do it. By the way, what about Casey wearing the iHate LA t-shirt? Well, that's another one. Yeah, right, but that had to be a hand-down.
Yeah, his older brother had it for me. I was supposed to be there the other day. They were like, cuss, we have to have a drone shot of Fenway. Right, and I think the bars are crucial.
All the best Boston movies, like the town has that they filmed in old Sully's. That was great. The bars in this movie, the L Street Tavern, some of those, the Cambridge ones. And then I think you have to capture, it just has to feel the essence of people that live here.
And I don't even know how to quantify that, but you know what I mean? There's people in this movie that just feel like Boston people that you know that somebody from Boston made it. Does that make sense? Yeah, because I think obviously the thing that's really cool in the Affleck scene with Damon, where he's just like, you know, I killed the habit you have.
You know, depending on where you're at, especially when you're younger and you're kind of like accepting your fate a little bit, I think they did a really good job with not overdoing it. Like those guys are about every day getting up, completely task, beers afterwards, rinse or pee, and they already accepted it. And they didn't do it in a way that like you just kind of already knew who they were, without having to have like extra scenes of those guys doing the same stuff over and over again. Here's two things they missed, Sean.
Well, these are things that happen in Boston movies, but don't happen in real life. The weather is always awesome and robustly. Nobody is ever cold. It is just early May all the time.
And then there's no traffic ever. You just get anywhere you want it. The tea is empty at all times. Doesn't matter what time of day there's nobody in there.
Yeah. In the comments, just walk around, grab a bench. Nobody's going to be there. Nobody's walking around.
There's no ducks. Those are the four things that we have. Sean, let's talk about 97. One of the great movie years ever where we launch Affleck and Damon.
We have Titanic. We launch Leo and Winslet. We have Pete James Cameron. Jack Nicholson wins the Oscar.
Robyn Williams wins an Oscar. And it just feels like boogie nights is out there. It feels like something shifting, one shifting. That's a great question.
I think it's like the simultaneous moment when movies are still the biggest thing in all of entertainment from the studio perspective plus all the Sundance, kind of Tarantino, Paul Thomas Anderson, and Arrow of Guys are starting to get their chance to make big expensive movies. So Jackie Brown is this year, chasing Amy is this year. There's also all that new classic generation combining with Titanic, the biggest fucking movie ever made, which is convenient. Ele Confidential is this year.
There's a bunch of movies. I'm not really writing for that as good as it gets. Nicholson wins. That's not.
We don't really get that later. That's not when you rewatch. No. There's also like even in the credits for this movie, there's Kevin Smith, there's Lawrence Bender.
So there's all these names from that indie scene pop up behind the scenes in this one. Yeah, it's like in the NBA when we just have like a class and you're like, oh man, like this year's class might be like that with all the guys in the 25 class. So you have like in football, you have like the quarterback class. You just look at the guys in 97 range.
It's like, oh man, we're loaded. I was listening to you guys. I think we needed to pull fiction stuff and you know the story of this kind of indie film, but you know, obviously like once people got involved and it just became this blockbuster, whether you can kind of like lose some of the origin party. But I still think like we're only a few years removed from that, where people all of a sudden wanted these movies that felt smaller scale.
And like the budget for this is nothing, but it's funny that it worked as kind of an indie movie, but at the same time, like you could have seen it cast with all eight, like the story just works. So it doesn't feel like you're watching Slack or something or like, okay, did you guys shoot this on VHS? But there was just a demand for all of these years after that run of, I don't know how it falls in, but it's kind of like a hybrid of those two. Do you remember your Damon Affleck thoughts on 97 heading into this movie?
I don't. I mean, I think I remember seeing, like I remember seeing Affleck in Dazed, I mean like that guy's a prick. He seems like, like that'll be like what he does in the movies. But it wasn't like, I was like, these two guys are marked for Superstardom for the next 30 years.
Damon was encouraged under fire and it was like, who is that guy? Lost a bunch of ways. I remember that very vividly. And then people, that was when we went to Denzel Washington and Meg Ryan and people like, who's that guy?
So that was a good sign. I had, so he's in school ties in place, like the most reprehensible preppy, and some might probably ever capture in a boarding school movie. And it was, he was so reprehensible in that that when you would see him actually be like, oh, that guy from school ties, he's a fucking prick. And the Will Hunting thing finally, and losing a million pounds for Courage Under Fire, Affleck to me was just a dazed and confused guy.
And then he was in Chasing Amy, which I thought he was really good in. But it wasn't like there was a huge history, right? You have history of them or something? No, the only thing that's really funny about the Affleck part of it is he went to UVM and dropped out.
So I remember, I had, everybody at this year had left. I was like, hey, we're all standing here like five years, right? And literally everybody was gone. And so then, you know, whatever, I hope everybody makes fun of me, because I know Bill's ready too.
I think I started buying the sit field books, and I was like, I'm gonna get to figure this screenwriting thing out. That might be a path. And then in a classic Boston sense, like there was a couple of guys from my group that are Massachusetts guys that made it as screenwriters. And then there was a bunch that wanted to be screenwriters that hated anybody else's success.
So when this first started making the rounds, you're like, what happened? You're like, oh, this guy was a Harvard kid, and then I guess Damon was there five years and dropped out. So credit to him for staying the course. But it's like he got together with his dude that was at UVM, and then he chased them, girl, the California, and they're both Boston guys.
And I guess they're like getting this movie made, and it's gonna be awesome. And then classic, again, Massachusetts dude, and our friend group was like, they didn't even write it though, dude. It's like, they didn't even, like he already was ready, like, for him to be like, if this thing works out, fuck those guys. So that actually kind of influenced these guys were way more into it.
And I was just buying books. I wasn't even reading them, but I was like, yeah, I'm gonna figure this deal out. And it just was such a classic New England specific to this area where it's like a couple homegrown dudes about to make it great. And the immediate part of it was like, yeah, those guys actually suck though.
Well, what's funny is in Hollywood, that's happening too. They're battling this story that started going around that they didn't write it, and that William Goldbin rewrote it. It was one of the great screenwriters. Yeah, like one of my friends was so excited when he was like, he heard this.
Yeah, he just felt better about himself. And he had everything. And I was like, that's happened where on both coasts people are like, yeah, they didn't do it. They didn't write it.
Fuck these guys. Also, before the internet, you could really just like let that one rip, and nobody really could check. He's like, I heard William Goldbin wrote it. And he's like, all right, I feel bad in a way that we're even doing this this early, because I don't think any of us actually believe it.
No. If you go down the wormhole of this, because I remember like, checking up on it. You're like, is this real? I'm like, OK, they didn't write it.
I'm doing great. Right. It's such a fucked up thing, what you do when you're younger. And the whole argument was, so these guys just out of nowhere write this Oscar award-winning screenplay, and then they don't write again.
But I mean, the easy counter to that is, no, they just became two of the biggest movie stars in the world. Two of the 10 biggest stars in the US. I love that what Goldbin said when he finally fully addressed it. He was like, you know why they didn't write another movie after this?
The same reason that Sylvester Stallone didn't write another movie, because it sucks to sit in your writer's hole by yourself when you pay $20 million to go act in a huge movie. Makes sense. Yeah, Affleck's not on the set of Armageddon going, I really miss just being at Dunkin' Donuts. Where can I have seen?
I'm like, where's Off the Word? Well, there's so many touches that you can tell, like two guys from here wrote it. But one of the things they talk about a lot is they wanted to write an awesome part for a famous actor. And that's the Sean character, the professor.
So they had Morgan Freeman or Robert De Niro in their head as they're writing their character, and then up getting Robin Williams, who starts out on Morgan Mindy. That's how I got to know him, which was a sitcom in the late 70s, but then has this whole movie craze in Garp and Bird Cage, Good Morning V. and I'm Mrs. Doubtfire, Dead Poets Society, but then this is what he wins the Oscar for.
And I still feel like Dead Poets might have been, what was the right Oscar for him? I'm rewatching this movie this time, like Danny is throwing alley-ups to him. Like he really has a lot of meaty scenes in this one. It's pretty good, what do you think, Sean?
The genie in Aladdin is elite, like that's high level animated voice acting. I think this is probably the right choice. I love this art. I love this performance.
Like 55.45 for me between Dead Poets and some percentage of this. I can hear him when you're watching it, though, working so hard to not be super annoying talk show Robin Williams. You know, he's like nine guys holding him back from not riffing and doing a voice, which I appreciate. It is possible when you put on those cardigans that he's wearing.
You just become immediately more sensitive and thoughtful. This has been my dad's trick for like 50 years. He's got three cardigans on all the time. What do you think of that?
Where are the cardigans? Yeah, now that you mention your dad, it's like Robin Williams is a PD version of your dad. Yeah, I thought like, what do you have for the Oscar for Robin Williams? Well, I like you kind of grew up with him as morgue and you're like, how long is this going to go?
Yeah. But I don't know that I was like seven going. I don't like this guy's runway dad, you know. Probably look at the world that way back then.
But I just love when anybody breaks out of like the typecasting of what you are. And clearly like, Garff was the first, I don't know if that's his first movie, but he's probably the first time he was. First thing I ever knew. Yeah, I remember when I was a second.
But now he, I don't know what's going to come up during the Dion Waders award thing, but on the most recent rewatch right then I watched it today because of travel and how it worked out. I mean, I'm so fresh off of it. I mean, every single scene with him is crushing it. Crushes and it works.
Yeah. There's not one piece of dialogue with him where it's not like setting up some other payoff. And I still think the Boston Common scene, like getting to write that and having like, here's this whole explanation. He's not going to come at him, but then it all just ties together.
Like that's really that might be the most impressive part of the entire movie. Yeah. Mini driver got nominated as well. She's really good in this.
She had a nice little run. Four or five four or five movies in there that were great. That's being sent. You want to do a little to little 30 seconds on the show?
Yeah, he's incredibly important in this movie. And I don't think it would be nearly as good if it wasn't made by him because his whole thing is the invisibility of the camera. Like you feel like you're watching real people. And every intimate conversation that probably would feel really overwritten by a 123 year old guy is from Boston.
Don't feel that way at all. It feels super real because of the way that they talk about it in that oral history. How he just sits next to the camera and lets them figure out how they want the part to go. He let Rob Williams try to do it 10 different ways, but Ben Affleck only wanted to do it two ways.
And he let them do whatever they thought was right. And you know, he's an independent filmmaker from Pacific Northwest who's made a ton of great movies over the years. This is probably the most mainstream thing he's ever done. But he's got a little bit of, you know, realistic secret sauce that I think elevates it.
Any relation to Van Zam from Heat? You know, it's funny you should say that because the other director up for this movie was Michael Mann. And he wanted to make the guys into car thieves. And when I found that out, this movie got 5% worse to me because I was like, shit, I need good real car thieves.
You know, I had this coming later, but let's talk about this now. So this is a what if for this movie. He shoots a whole day of footage with them for a screen test. And then goes with this whole thing about how he wants Mexican car thieves to be in it.
And they're explaining to him that that wouldn't really feel like Boston. And he's all fired up about it. But so the title that would have been Goodwill Hunted. Do you think he does that though for every movie he's up for?
He's like Shakespeare in love, but they're car thieves. Right. Titanic. They're stealing the Titanic.
There's time. He's then they're running out of time. Yeah. But if you think about the pitch of what it really is, it's like it's a girlfriend in therapy.
Like I can't believe I saw it. Well, this movie went to Oscars. Rebel Williams won for Best Supporting Actor. And the boys won for screenplay.
Damon, fourth person ever at this point to get nominated for acting and writing in the same year. Shocking in another three. I can't accept it. That's an erroneous fact.
I saw this last one. What is it? Wow. Rattled.
No, I mean, I said to this point. Well, off the top of my head, Rocky did it. So I saw it on the horse and well, it's Charles Chaplin. But also Woody Allen did it for Annie Hall, because he was not in that year.
Hushville in the crowd. There was, whoa. You made it all. Listen.
We're all friends here. And then I'm the director of your role in your match scene. This is like the match scene. Charles is like, you know how easy this is for me?
It's a fucking joke. Don't put a whiteboard in front of me, man. I got markers. It happened again one year later with like this beautiful Robert Obanini did it.
Oh, that's a tough one. You don't remember that as far as you might speak. Well, we have two big Oscar debates that come out of this. Do we?
Yeah, we do. Buckle up or still. It's coming up next. Jack Nicholson wins for as good as it gets.
The other nominees were Matt Damon, Goodwill Huntin, Robert DeVaugh, and the Apostle of Peter Fonda and Uli's Gold. That was the other choice for tonight. And then Dustin Hoffman for WAGT TOG. And all these years later, I just think Damon should have won.
Agree. And as good as it gets, which was really good when it came out, it was James L. Brooks and it was a thing, Helen Hunt got nominated to. I just don't think it's age well as a movie.
And it makes me mad that Matt Damon didn't win. CR? Damon's unbelievable in this movie. Do you ever think about him writing his own speeches, though?
Do you ever think that that should be some sort of demerit? Because if Jack Nicholson could always just write his own scenes. Is this you justifying never having won an award? No.
But Damon is like, I thought of it as Robin Williams' scenes. Damon is unbelievable in the middle. So he is very deserving. That was awesome.
What do you think we're still? I don't think I've made it all the way through as good as it gets. That might disqualify you. I don't think I should have a vote.
This is like, hey, if you watch the NBA this year, you want to defense it to play your award. I mean, some of the other nights said that Miles Turner's in the running. And I'm like, what the fuck? But I guess Robin Williams is so good that I think it may have hurt Damon's case.
He got out shown. He's a good take. He's your one. Affleck did not get nominated.
Rob Williams wins. And he beats all of the people in Book of Nights. Bert Reynolds got nominated, but everybody else who could have got nominated. And then wait, do you agree with that?
Well, he beats Robert Forster and Jackie Brown. And Sean is like very partial, too. I'm not as partial. Great canaryon as good as it gets and Anthony Hopkins and Amastad.
You voted for Anthony Hopkins. Yeah. Yeah. The person who's going in the atom is like a commercial.
Honestly, just rough luck for Bert Reynolds. That's really cool. That's making wins in a lot of other years. It's very similar to Stallone not winning for Creed, where that whole time everybody thought Bert was going to win.
And then he lost everybody realized that nobody likes Bert Reynolds in Hollywood. Right. That by the way, that's going to happen to Dream on Green with the Fence Square the year. He's favoring right now.
And that got for Stallone. No, but I mean, it's like, after the cat thing, he got destroyed. Yeah. And they odds changed.
And like, if you not paid attention to all these media members, basically saying like everybody's on the same page about it right now. So there's a little Sunday preview. And then Goodwill Hunting wins over Boogie Nights. What do we think all these years later for screenplay?
That's a tough one. I don't know if I have an answer. What's your answer if we're not doing it in a land's down street? Yeah.
That's not kind of an ask for funds. Yeah. I mean, Boogie Nights should have been a very nice, a better movie. Thank you, Ryan.
Who won? Can I have a director of this year? James Cameron. Yeah, I think Paul Tom is the answer to win.
Well, this got nominated for Nine Oscars. Elliott Smith nominated for Best Original Song for Miss. He's all over this movie. And it's awesome.
And Danny Elfman lost for Best Score to Titanic. Because Titanic just obliterated everybody. $10 million budget made $225 million. Roger Ebert.
So every time we do rewatchables, we read Roger Ebert's review. Three stars. Maybe just like, maybe had some like bad Mexican before the video. Did you read Ebert's review?
Yeah, he said the film has a good year for the way these characters might really talk. Might? The outcome of this movie is fairly predictable. So is the whole story really.
It's the individual moment. It's not the payoff that make it so effective. It's a borderline fucking rush. I don't like his tone.
Also in the body of the review, Ebert just gives away Chucky's monologue. He's just like, oh then Chucky says this. And they're like, this is the best part of the movie. Right.
Well, we're gonna do some categories. That's some book. I'm still, I didn't know that. I'm sorry.
I know you guys read these every week. There's so many bad versions of this movie. And this one made it feel authentic. And it was a good ending.
It was a happy ending. Yeah. And it didn't, you know, all these movies are like, oh, it's just gonna be happy at the end. Cool.
This one felt like you actually felt really happy at the end. Three and a half stars seems fair. I think he gave it three stars. No, but I'm saying three and a half I think is about as low as you want to go.
His take was kind of the consensus take though. And I think that a lot of the critics were not in Boston. I don't know. Is this authentic?
I'm not sure. And it seems like it would be here. Do you think he was very positive to call the Michael Mann screen test footage? Good one.
He's waiting for the cars to chase Damon. We're doing the categories. I have a special category. I didn't tell you guys.
The single most Boston thing about this movie are nominees. The overhead of Fenway Park, Morgan's IH.A.A. T-shirt. The old school red line trowies that they kind of brought out of retirement because those were done.
A big scene on the beach in Boston Common. The L.A.T. Tavern, Bunker Hill Community College, which by the way looks literally, literally exactly the same. Like exactly, T.A.T.
Eating at Kelly's in the tasty. Very 90's. Very 90's. Sean has a really cool Red Sox jacket.
I want to shut that out. Yeah. I thought Will's apartment looked very Boston. Duncan Donuts is just I'm the president, which I appreciated.
But here's our winner. This is an afflict story from New World History. And I'm just going to quote him. One night we took Robin to the L.A.T.T.
Tavern. Robin wanted to get a taste of Boston. I remember thinking this is a fucking mistake. And then it just turns into a mob scene.
Guys got really drunk and wanted to fight me because I had my hat on backwards. That's the most Boston thing about this movie. I'm going with that. So he's making the movie.
He's from here. Yeah. And his hat's on backwards. And somebody's like, yeah, exactly.
And this is the same thing as people hearing about them writing this amazing screen. Yeah. It's like, so they're going to make a movie? Who, what do they think they're cool?
They think you're better than me. I don't want to jump in. But this is Apex Mountain for Bunker Hill. It's been all downhill since.
No offense to any alums. But when your boy fucked up his first semester at UBM, and then I got a three and a half hour speech on the ride back up after fall semester by my father, we drove by Bunker Hill on 93. And he's like, we could just stop here and drop you off. And so I've never thought of Bunker Hill in my life.
Without that moment of like, it's a lot cheaper. Yeah. If this is the effort you're going to put in, I don't have to drive three and a half hours, three and a half hours back. He's like, we can find you, you know, place in Somerville.
It's going to be cheaper. And we can just wrap this up. I was like, all right, look, can we just, let's just get back to Vermont. I'll try harder.
And so every time I would drive to that Bunker Hill, I'm like, there's a Recilopath there. They're gone different. It's on my son's list. Very serious.
Can you get in safe? Ah, the 99's right there. Yeah, 99. 10 dollar chicken parmesan.
In 1998, this is great. We do the categories. Most of the rewatchable scene, the playground fight scene. Got some notes.
Hey, comment. Remember me? Really good slow motion. Bad.
We get a little Baker Street from Jerry Rafferty. What about the music choice for the fight scene? Yes or no? I'm still confused.
I think that was easy. He was zagging. We couldn't throw a little Edo G or Tim Dog in there when they're fighting. I just didn't get that.
Yeah. Not the berry but the fruit y'all. Next rewatch. I don't want to get that rock spirit.
Over. The Harper Bar scene at the bone arrow. Here's what I wrote my notes. Ponytail guy comes in talking market economy in the southern colonies and then in all caps.
Recillos Dream Encounter in 1997. Yeah, I don't know what. I do. You think Shane Hillin ran as he come more patient because he takes the first pitch now, which everyone in the league knows that he's going to do, which actually counteracts his patients because he's the most predictable at that in fucking major league baseball.
Because that would happen. It wouldn't be markets. It wouldn't be capitalism. How many times did you and Ponytail guys circle each other when you lived here?
I was a little bit. When I got here, how old was I? I was like 27, 28. Okay.
So it was kind of out of me by then. The funny thing is I actually got bigger when I needed it. And when I was more of a dickhead, I was smaller. So it didn't really match.
It's actually probably better for everybody involved. Yeah, I probably would. Let's see. So I'll tell it to correctly.
C.R. This is a Hall of Fame Francine. We're using all four guys perfectly. Yeah.
I think I've always wondered is was that guy named Clark? There's this guy winter's character? Yeah. Is the Ponytail a Truditio revolutionary or hair styles?
But yeah, I mean, it's just incredible back getting by the friend group. He was a huge almost not fan. That's right. And still in Asgard in almost that.
If you've just been nicer, he might have had a zero. Some good shout outs that Thomas is in. Howard. Howard.
Howard. Howard. Howard. It's not.
Thomas. Who is the Thomas? Gordon Wood. Gordon Wood.
Was that Thomas, too? I don't know, man. I have a big doc here. The thing you have known Chomsky's manufacturing consent.
I'll tell you what, though. I doubt we were really in that field. And you're like watching that movie. And you go, Damon, actually, just I'm not a free thinker.
I'm 43. Right. Like that's exactly, I believe all like that. That seemed fucked up at least one person in a way that will ever understand.
And it also makes me like, did Damon just hate that course so much? Yeah. Yeah, he was building inside him for 10 years. That's not just normal dialogue.
Yeah. My boy's wicked smart. There's some really good quotes in here. And then it leads to the do you like Apple scene, which we can tackle now or later.
Up to you, man. Why is the answer? Yes. It's there's no good outcome by saying yes.
If Karch just goes, I'm not. And turns back around to the three girls and donuts. The night's over. But he gets to throw the scholars number up.
Can we just dissect it a little bit more, though? Yeah. I'm glad you're doing this. Huh.
Let's go back to the bar. Karch is in the bar. He's there with his dorky friends. They're standing behind him when he started going.
First of all, Affleck's got like eight inches on him. He's a giant. And he's a townie who breaks his fucking head open. Yeah.
And he's, Karch is not hitting on the girls. He just, he knows them. He's just being a dead. But they're not interested.
Yeah. And so he's challenging a townie, which like, let's just say I'm Karch for the sake of conversation, because I'm a skinny dork. I would never say shit to a guy like that. Right.
So then Damon's idea to counter that is rather than break his head open, he's just going to explode his brain, right? So he embarrasses him. But then Karch's like, all right, see you later, man. He doesn't try to hit on me and he drives or anything.
So where does the, do you like apples even come from? Like what does he even, you already want? Right. So it's like a double win.
Came back for more. See, I had this for nitpicks for later, but in real life, they beat the hell out of this guy at two in the morning. Yeah. They just, they just, they just clap.
But I like to clap to the edge twice where they're just like, do you want to go outside? And he's just like, no, I just want to be a mechanic. About born what? What does that work?
In Florida? I don't know. I've never tried it. It's cool, man.
It's cool. Don't break my head open. Ryan, you tell us. When you're not breaking your head open.
There's a couple of things. I've never quite understood what it meant. Uh oh. I don't have the counter.
This is the most iconic scene in this movie. I know. Every time I watch it, I love it. And then I start to think about it.
I'm like, what really happened here? Whatever. I mean, there had to be some, I guess, final moment. So they came up with, I've never heard, I've never heard anyone ever say that until the movie came out.
Yeah. And then obviously a bunch of dudes said it for a really long time. But your thing on, why would you even go with these guys? I would disagree with that.
Because I think when you're, the whole point of them being in Cambridge. And I remember even back when I was in school, like this Roxy crew would come out when they had leave. It was the worst. We're all like 185 pounds of our game hats on.
But we were all just clones of each other. So no one was really afraid of anybody else. And then these Roxy guys would come up and like, hit on these girls who were Greenwich Connecticut. And they were like horrified.
Like, what are you going to shoot in aid or something? Like, fuck away from me. You know? I'm from Riverside.
Like, this is what the fuck? You know, I'm from Newton or something. And they were just like, why are these hominers talking to us. And then they grabbed one of us, more ons, and they were like, who dude?
And then it would be like, what have you ever done for your country? We'd always get our asking. But the point is, is that you would feel protective of your neighborhood. And I think in this case, Clark is just like, even if you guys would kill us, you're not supposed to be here.
And look, Minnie's at Harvard. I don't know what it was like in 97 because I wasn't here. So maybe, but they're not just going to give her away to out of status. I really think you should test this theory tonight.