I'm Tom Bilyeu. Welcome. We are going to be talking about Kamala Harris making the rounds. I want to talk about her economic policies, Mark Cuban going on the All-In podcast and people's response to that's been interesting.
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How are you feeling? I'm feeling great. Nice. All right.
Jump right into it. I'm going to get the burning stuff out of the way. Economics. You love inflation, that you're a big inflation guy.
Because I love inflation, that might not be the accurate way to represent my stance, Drew. Yes, but it is certainly a topic I think a lot about. It dropped to 2.4 in September, down from a pandemic high of 9.1 in June 2022. I know a lot of people still see prices up.
A lot of people still see their pockets not stretching as much as they used to. I know you have this take on inflation isn't just about rising prices. It's the dollar amount itself. How do you feel about this news that inflation is actually, quote, unquote, getting better?
Well, so inflation getting better would just be good news all around. Anybody that makes something like that sound like bad news, that's very problematic. But the thing that I try to get people to understand is that inflation is not rising prices. Rising prices is a result of inflation.
Inflation, literally the reason it is called inflation, boys and girls, is because you're inflating something. So the question is, what are you inflating and why is it bad? You're inflating the money supply. I want to be very clear about that.
Guess what inflates the money supply? Like crazy. Debt. Guess what else inflates the money supply?
Actually putting fiat currency just by, literally fiat, by decree, into the system to pay for the debt that already was inflationary. And so we are in this horrific cycle where you're just adding money, adding money, adding money to the system. And what that does is it robs buying power. So, boys and girls, when you hear inflation, what you should think in your mind is theft.
I've been stolen from. If it's actual inflation, if it's rising prices, it's very different. So I want to be very clear. And I get it.
This is nuanced and people, the world abhors nuance more than nature abhors a vacuum. But nonetheless, you have to understand the difference between the two. So prices are going to rise for a whole host of factors. But ultimately, inflation, which is the thing that drives the increase in prices more than anything else, is a separate phenomena.
And if people don't separate those two things, you get all the political mumbo jumbo that we're living through right now. Copy. And just to put a pin in that, the government does not control private interest prices. So that is a free market problem.
Well, so hold on, because this is exactly what Kamala Harris is talking about. This is the thing that ultimately disqualified her for me as a candidate, literally until about two weeks ago. I wasn't sure which way I was going to vote. I still might cast a protest vote.
We'll see because I think the vote is going to be so close. It might matter from a popular election standpoint. But I don't think she at like a deep and fundamental level, I do not think she understands the drivers of the economy. And you just at a moment where you have the debt that we have and you have the interest payments that we have, you cannot have somebody that is fiscally illiterate.
That's a very good point. Changing gears for a second. The DOJ is I'm jumping over to the Google monopoly breakup. So the DOJ is deciding how to break up Google.
I know that monopolies are bad on paper, but can the government figure out how to make a company more viable? Like, what does that mean if you had a company and the government wants to break it up? Yeah, so this is interesting. So the government, when it is doing its job well, is making sure that the health of the industry is there.
And what happens with a monopoly is like, so right now we are fighting with the fact that AT&T has a monopoly over the internet in my house. And for whatever reason, even Starlink doesn't work here. So now I'm in a position where it is to the point where a very stable member of our team who we both know was the threat. He said, at the risk of your job, are you actually going to show up at this time?
And they have put us off so many times, something like six months where they will give us a day and a time and they just won't show up. It's absolutely outrageous. So that's what happens when you have a monopoly. And so the customer ends up suffering.
And so the government is saying is, hey, we're going to protect the consumer. Now, governments, I'll even grant them that governments have the best interests of their people at heart. The problem is these are incredibly complicated systems and governments are far more likely to do harm most of the time than good when they think from the top down they can control this. Now, I'm not a libertarian.
I do think we want government, but you need a constraining force. So the government right now is trying to be a constraining force against Google getting too monopolistic. I think we should be very slow to encourage the DOJ to do this. But upon seeing all the evidence and really weighing in and being very slow to do this, yes, you do want them to protect the customer at the end of the day.
But I think they should be very slow. Now, I'm not in the weeds on the Google situation, so I can only give you at a high level when you start seeing a rash of these anti-monopolistic suits go up. My spidey senses go off. But we haven't like it's not been crazy where I get worried is how much of the M&A that they're they're really putting a cold blanket on all of that.
And so where M&A should be taking 90 days, 120 days, you're now talking two, three years. And you just the burden that that puts on companies, I think, is terrifying. You want companies to be able to go, hey, we've sold out. We want to go get a strategic acquire here to continue to grow.
It's good for the stock market. It can be good for that company. And so right now, that's where I have a bigger problem is if Google were trying to make an acquisition and they're throwing cold water on that because they've been doing that over and over and over. I think that's a huge mistake.
But whether Google really is just through owning so much of the world becoming a problematic monopoly, I'd have to look closer at it. Copy. And do you think this is something that happened a bit too late with the rise of ChatGPT, TikTok, a lot of other, quote unquote, search engines are out there. People are getting their information from different places.
I mean, that's a really good question. This is why I always hesitate to get behind the government stepping in and doing this. Just today, I had a weird notice pop up on my screen. And instead of going to Google, which I would have done literally for the last 20 plus years, I just went to ChatGPT and was like, hey, this popped up.
What do I do? And I thought, woof, if I'm going there just for information, I'm not even it's not something where I wanted to write something for me or create something. I'm just like, hey, bro, like I have a feeling you're gonna know the answer to this. And its answer was so compelling and so concise.
And it didn't make me go dig. Right. Because a lot of times they'll send you to a Web page and you have to figure out where on the Web page it is. It was just like, yo, this is what it means.
And the answer was so bang on that I thought, woof, things are about to change in a in a massive way. So, again, this is why you want a very light touch government. You want to make sure that as much of this is left to the free market as humanly possible. You want to be able to point very specifically to a problem that doesn't that isn't already in the middle of a transition.
So I think to your point about search, search is in the middle of a transition right now. And so I know the Google owns YouTube, but whether that's going out to YouTube, whether that's going out to all the different AIs, whether that's going out to X, like there there is a diffusion of that happening right now as we transition into social media and as we transition into AI. And I think AI will literally obliterate what search is today. I think you're literally going to have that friend around your neck or something like that that you just have an interaction with all the time from the time that you're a kid.
It will remember you and the things you care about. And so now that search has so much context that it's like, oh, Tom, don't worry. I know in context what that warning on your particular screen means because I know what you've been up to. Copy.
And honestly, that's the feature that we want. So I'm curious to see. Well, now privacy people in the feed are going ballistic because it so everything is about tension. If you want to understand the way that I view the world, it really is tension between two things because everything is a trade off.
There there is no utopia. So you will get bitten in the ass by the fact that you're being monitored all the time and you're gonna have to all of us are gonna have to answer the question, is it worth it? Is it worth the tradeoff of having Please do what works, and people have to understand that what's happening is people are exploiting the fact that many people do not have the intellectual horsepower to think through this stuff, perhaps myself included. And many people, even if they have the horsepower, they're not going to allocate the time, and the whole game is predicated on that.
That's so dark, man. Like, that really freaks me out. And the more that I get into this and the more that I accept the mantle of being somebody who is an independent voice in a space where people are going to use my content in order to navigate the world, you start thinking, okay, do I give them a nuanced position? Because if I do, it's not going to perform as well.
Like, I can see behind your eyes right now, you're already editing me because you know that I've been talking too long. But that really is troubling. Let's talk about what is going on in your closet. This time of year, most people realize half of what they own isn't even worth keeping.
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Hey guys, these are the actual issues we should be voting for. And I feel like it's not going to matter. I don't think that exists right now. Dude, it wouldn't matter.
Hey, everybody, you need to get educated. You need to think through these problems. There, I've said it, but it really won't matter. No one is going to do it.
That wasn't already going to do it. And the reason is this stuff is obscenely complex. These are incredibly complicated systems. But the problem is it really doesn't matter.
So the idea that I keep coming back to, so my life philosophy, boys and girls, we are all automata. That free will is an illusion. But despite that, Drew, despite that, we respond to ideas. And so now it's like I have the chills.
We have to accept, even if you'll join me in believing that we're all automata, we're still going to respond to the ideas that get put before us. So the ideas then really matter. And a whole part of this complicated thing is that we all have these internal values that we steer by. We do things that we want to, I, for one, value integrity.
So if I say something, I'm going to live up to what I say. That I'm not going to present one face and then be a different way. Literally, I can feel my brain scanning right now to make sure that what I'm saying is true to determine how I should feel about myself when I'm by myself. OK, but everybody has different values.
And so this is like that midcurve thing where people are over here are just like, lie to everybody. And then the midwits like me are like, no, don't. Like, say the truth. Nuance matters.
And then you get back over here and it's like, just lie to everybody because it's what works. Dark, man. Dark, dude. Dark.
It's so dark. And so, look, I'm only ever going to be one pebble. And so I might as well be the best pebble I can. I don't know why I'm calling it a pebble, but you're a grain of sand on a gigantic beach and people are going to encounter all the grains of sand and they're going to make their own decision.
It's dark, man. Shifting gears a little bit, the Polymarket actually has a betting market. The Polymarket, for those that don't know, that's the betting market on the election. There are people who sports bet and there's people who bet who's going to win the debate, who's going to win the swing state, etc.
The Polymarket has tipped in Trump's favor. What's your gut telling you about who's actually going to win this election? Trust the Polymarket. And the problem is the Polymarket is going to go back and forth.
And so the reality is that what does my gut say? My gut says that I don't know. That's the honest answer. So I will give you that because I probably have a negativity bias and because I am so scared of her fiscal policies that my default is like, oh my God, she's going to win.
But that comes from a place of, okay, you can trust me to be selfish. You can trust everyone to be selfish. I sell to the middle class. I make entertainment.
So forget what you guys know me for on YouTube. That is not what I think of as myself. What I think of as myself is what we're doing on the entertainment side. I make a video game.
I think a lot about that. And so there just aren't enough rich 11 to 15-year-old kids for me to make out my market. So I care deeply about who do I think is actually going to build a thriving middle class. Now, I frame it that way only so that people understand, like, even if you just trust me to be cynical and selfish, you can still trust that I actually care about the middle class, but I also just care about people in general.
So my north star is human flourishing for as many people as possible. That just means from a math equation. It's the middle class. That's what you have to care about.
And then history teaches me that the middle class, literally, and the lower class, they will murder the upper class if there is not, and I don't mean that figuratively. I mean, they actually come and decapitate you. Either rich or... Correct.
If you don't make sure that the policies are good for them. So to me, I'm looking at this going, who's going to be better for the middle class? And unfortunately, the narrow-ass margin is probably because they're both going to spend so crazy. And what you really need is somebody to rein in the deficit.
That's the actual answer. Neither of them are going to do it. But in Trump's four years, inflation was lower than Biden's. He's better on the border.
That's how I'm coming at this problem. I think that people will be a little better under Trump than Harris. I don't know. I don't really trust betting platforms because, like you said, they shift with culture.
So if the Call Her Daddy interview did 2 billion views, I feel like that number would have flipped immediately. It might flip again more times before we get to the election. But a 7%, like a 7% difference is significant. We're used to the 2% to 3% margin of error kind of leads, but this seems like it's a bit different.
The culture, the tides of culture may be changing. Quick call. I so wish I knew You know, this like, do we need, do we need this? Yes, man, all of the things that you just listed are all the dumb things that I will tell people, turn them off.
You don't want to be in a conversation with somebody and have a text message pop up. That's ass. I don't want to talk to you when you're like texting with your wife and shit. It's like, stop.
I want to be with you when I'm with you. But when you're engaging with the world and it's reading things, like, okay, let's give a crazy example. The AI, let's say that you're on the spectrum and the AI is like, I got you. And it's like, no, no, no, they just made a microexpression.
I suggest that you ask the question, hey, is everything okay? Did I just say something that bothered you? Hey, is everything okay? Did I just say something?
Well, I'm glad you asked, right? I mean, dude, there are going to be some people that reject it. I get it. They're going to be, there will be a new puritan movement where the purity is about the rejection of technology.
I fully understand that. I'm not even mad at them because I get it. This is going to be a trade-off. But just like you can have an unhealthy relationship with food or you can eat to not only survive but thrive, it will be the same with technology.
If you use it to be constantly distracted, to indulge in pornography or whatever, then yeah, it will be worse. It will have moved you backwards. But if you have a healthy relationship with it, then it's going to be extraordinary, man. Like if we did a podcast just on this, I could spend two hours just walking you through all the things I've already thought of.
And the odds that I've thought of half of a percent of the things that it will do are virtually zero. So phones have made some people's lives worse, but not mine. So this becomes a question of what is your relationship with it? That's a very good point.
Very good point. Are you ready for your Tesla surprise? Let's do it. I want to hear about it.
So Tesla is set to announce tonight the Cybercat. It is their response to Waymo, Google's self-driving taxi service. So this is supposed to go live. They're literally doing it at the Warner Brothers theater in Hollywood.
What's your first thoughts? Obviously, like this is the way. It'll just be a competition between all these different car companies. None of us are ever going to drive.
I understand that that's going to traumatize a lot of people that love driving. And cool, hey, go do it as a hobby. I love that. But the reality is for me, being in a car that I'm not driving is like teleporting because I can just put my head down and get work done, do whatever I want to do.
Like, I don't understand people for whom they would rather do the act of driving, especially because I live in LA, so the traffic is terrible. It's not like the wind is blowing through your hair. You're stuck in traffic. So for me, just being able to learn, that's what I'm normally doing, or I'm just getting work done, it is utterly transformative.
So now we all get that time back, but also it will be so much safer. It will be orders of magnitude safer. All the cars will be able to pod up. They will understand what each of them are doing as regulations begin to get passed that force them to communicate with each other and say, you know, up, we've detected a car is moving erratically or whatever.
It's probably this out of the other. And then you might be able to have all, if enough cars send back a kill signal, then it shuts the vehicle down or something like that. I mean, just guys, these are the things you can think of quickly off the top of your head. Like it's just going to be so much better.
Now, where people begin to push back is, bro, I want the autonomy. Cool. I hear you. And I think that there is a very reasonable debate.
I think you're probably in like 10 years, you're probably going to have a hard time getting insurance, but that's the only side of this where I'm like, yeah, I'm empathetic to that. There are people that just, but those are the things that I want to do and I want to make sure that they have that space. But for safety reasons, that being relegated to a track or to given spaces, personally, I'm here for that. So it immediately reminded me of like horseback riding and how everybody's got owned a horse and everybody's ride.
And now there are people who still ride horses, but they're in these remote specific areas where everybody else rides. Yeah. And I'm sure that that was legitimately traumatizing to a subgroup of people. And I get it.
Everything's a trade-off. I'm a car guy though, so that makes me sad. But we'll see what's, I trust Elon Musk though. Everybody loves the Tesla.
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I just want, you understand this more than a lot of other people. So I thought you should give this kind of eulogy to Sony. Sony, if I may, can we please have your assets? Here is, here's the reality of the entertainment industry.
And I'm trying, I'm running a test to see if there's a way to buck that. Because you see this in movies. And for me, video games is a way to escape this. So what happens in a movie is you get one shot to get people excited and behind it.
Now every now and then something will then go to streaming or video back in the day and it would get a cold audience. So for example, Shawshank Redemption absolutely tanked at the box office. I did not know that one. And it has gone on to be considered the greatest film of all time.
It is a truly extraordinary film that now a lot of people have seen. But at the time, it was just an abject failure. And so you see that a lot. And it's done.
And so now whatever's going to happen is going to happen. And no one's going to put marketing dollars into it or anything like that. But I think the world has changed. So here's what I'm betting on.
If I can build a gaming community. And by the way, if you're into video games and empowerment, join me 6:30 a.m. Pacific time most days where I stream playing Fortnite and Project Heizen, our game. If I can build an audience that's around that idea, right?
They want to be there for empowering ideas and video games at the same time. Now I can build the game in public and it will ebb and flow. And there'll be times, just like our YouTube channel, where we're way up and then there's times where the channel comes back down and we reinvent, we try new things. And so you just get this like constant rock.
And we built this incredible business around it. I think video games, unlike a film, which really, because it's static, it is what it is. And so people don't like it. You're done.
So if you spent $200 million making the movie and another $200 million marketing and people don't like it, that's it. There's no going back and redoing it. A game isn't like that. A game you can reinvent.
You can try. You can create new mechanics. So Fortnite, one of the biggest games on planet Earth, originally was like this thing where you're killing zombies and all this stuff. And they were reinventing it constantly.
They had like redone the art style three times. They I want that friction. I want to be held in check. Like I don't want just capitalists being able to dump things in the water and like pump everything into the atmosphere.
I want them to have a check. So it's like you want that friction between the two sides to find the best way forward. And once people understand that the friction is the thing that sharpens your thinking, nobody, nobody has the first idea and that's the best idea. Even Einstein ended up having to revise his own philosophies, right?
You put it out into the world, you test it experimentally, you see what's actually working and what's not. That sharpens your thinking when you're not afraid to be wrong. And then you can actually get to a good answer. But right now, when it becomes this cudgel where it's a moral thing and anybody that's like, I'm not so sure about that, and I think that there are trade-offs and we need to really be thoughtful, and they get silenced, deplatformed, whatever.
Like literally just by talking about this, we're probably going to get a thing at the bottom of the episode. So keep your eyes peeled for that. And that, I think, is dangerous. You need to want to debate.
There's something about that with energy cost because I do think your point is valid. Nuclear can greatly reduce that. I think Elon talked about half, a couple acres of solar panels using the sun can power half of the United States. So it seems like we have these technologies, one available to us and relatively cheap, quote-unquote, that we can get away from our dependencies of traditional fossil fuels.
But at the same time, we're not pursuing that, but we also want to make other people not pursue other. So to your point, it's like we're trying to push us in one direction, but not too fast, but we're also not going backwards, not too fast. So it's like they want us to be stuck in the middle almost. It's very confusing.
I think there might be something else happening where this, okay, now we're into complicated territory. So my conspiratorial brain starts kicking in, and I don't have a strong conspiratorial mind, so when it gets triggered, there's something going on. I think that the world, humans, are only understandable when you know that there is some portion of us tied to Nietzsche's idea of will to power. So all of us have a will to power, and it can be just in our personal life, and this is why home life is so important to so many people.
It's a place where, hey, you're going to have it the way that you want it. But when you understand that part of what motivates people is not just, hey, I want the world to be better for the middle class, or I want to make sure that our children's children have clean air to breathe. They also just want a bit of power. And this is why this is part of what you do with dumb voters.
So my belief, just to give you my take, you have to let dumb voters vote, and you have to accept that whatever comes, comes because anything else becomes tyranny. And I get it. All of us are like, there are people much smarter than me that are traumatized that I get to vote or that I get to speak into a camera. Like, they're mortified.
They're like, what's with this clown? And so all of us have somebody that has less thoughtfulness or less intellectual horsepower that we're horrified that they get to vote. But so that we are not silenced, we must leave it open for everybody and just accept that, yeah, human personalities, intellect, willfulness, all of it is distributed. It's a bell curve.
And so, yeah, it is what it is. And I, for one, believe you need to embrace that, and you want to put out the best ideas, and you want that friction, and you want to debate it, argue it, and get as sharp as we can. But you really have to accept that you are so fallible that you should be ultra paranoid of control. Now, this is why no one will ever believe you no matter what you say unless you really, like, took me to task.
But I try to run my company that way, where there are times where I'll say, look, I'm saying this as a CEO, and it's just going to be this way because we've debated it, and you do finally need somebody to make a decision. But I don't trust myself. I don't trust myself to see around every corner. I don't trust myself to be right all the time.
I think my intellect is limited, and I think I need to surround myself with smart people that have my values on that. I've found if you have different values or a different aim, you're going to implode. But I want people that share my values, that share my vision, but see the world from a different angle. And so they can see things about me that I can't see about myself or they might argue a point and be like, yo, that's not the way.
And then through that friction, you're able to find a path forward. So when you understand will to power and you know that most people aren't willing to give it away, then things start to make sense. These are people that I think are leveraging a crisis. This is a great quote.
Never let a good crisis go to waste. Now, when somebody lives by that maxim and they have the will to power, now all of a sudden something like COVID becomes, oh, we can gobble up power. And once we have it, we don't have to give it back because people acclimate to it very quickly. And so if you plug that variable in, now all of a sudden I don't trust that people are just trying to do what's right.
I think they're using this as an opportunity to get control. And top down control scares the life out of me. No, that hits it. That hits it.
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Oh, okay. Well, I'll give you the answer that came to mind first. Doctor Manhattan. Now, I'd probably want to think about that more because there was something, it ruined all of his relationships.
And that is the thing that scares me. But I've always believed if you meet a magic genie and you are allowed to have one wish and one wish only, there was only one wish that makes sense through simple thoughts and actions to be able to turn any piece of matter into any other piece of matter. So, for instance, if you have a cancerous tumor, make it healthy tissue. I don't have to go in and, like, figure out which things are cancer or not.
I just want to be like, it's not cancer anymore. It's healthy tissue. Doctor Manhattan comes very, very close to that. So that's my answer.
Part B, is it like that's who you would be or is that your favorite superhero? That's who I would want to be. My favorite superhero is Batman because he doesn't have any superpowers other than he trains and researches and that to me is the coolest of the cool. So at Impact Theory, in our comic division, we often, you know, in comics, you're going to be dealing with superhero-y type of stuff.
And one thing we always wanted was the superhero has to earn their powers. So I wish, in fact, every night I intended to punch myself in the mouth because I did not create My Hero Academia. It's so good, dude. And it's basically about a kid who becomes Superman, but he has to learn how to use the powers and how to build up, like, his strength and get his body to the point where it can tolerate the powers.
It's unbelievable. So even a story like that where it's like you are just get he ate this guy's hair. It's a terrible origin story. But anyway, he gets the powers and then, like, finds the powers are basically destroying him.
And he doesn't know how to control it and he can damage himself and be near death and all that stuff. And so it's like, hey, kid, you've got this power, but now you've got to earn it. Oh, man, I love that so much. That's why the Batman mythology speaks to me.
It got me my favorite superhero, Spider-Man, because he's the only superhero that pays rent. I think that that's important. Nice. He's also funny.
He was my favorite as a kid because he was funny. All right, everybody, that's it for today. Thank you so much for joining us. If there's any topics that you want to see me cover, make sure you go over to our community post.
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