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EPISODE · Jun 18, 2026 · 24 MIN

Governing for All, Where You Are

from In the Making · host Baratunde Thurston, Ashleigh Gardere, Michael McAfee

Baratunde Thurston and PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere return for “Governing for All, Where You Are,” exploring how local and state efforts can build governing power from the ground up. They discuss how small local efforts with tangible results, like a park cleanup, can grow into larger political power, and how local level work can facilitate accountability through proximity.  They also explore how to implement a floor on governing standards–ensuring basic rights– with regional implementation that respects local culture and history.  They close with an invitation to answer deeper questions about who we want to be for the next 250 years, and how experiments in democracy happening in places like New Orleans, North Carolina, and across the country ladder up to a nation that finally governs for all. About "In The Making" Hosted by Baratunde Thurston and featuring PolicyLink President Ashleigh Gardere and CEO Michael McAfee, "In the Making" explores how we redesign the nation to serve all. About PolicyLink PolicyLink is a national research and action institute working to redesign this nation so that it governs for all.

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Baratunde Thurston and PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere return for “Governing for All, Where You Are,” exploring how local and state efforts can build governing power from the ground up. They discuss how small local efforts with tangible results, like a park cleanup, can grow into larger political power, and how local level work can facilitate accountability through proximity.  They also explore how to implement a floor on governing standards–ensuring basic rights– with regional implementation that respects local culture and history.  They close with an invitation to answer deeper questions about who we want to be for the next 250 years, and how experiments in democracy happening in places like New Orleans, North Carolina, and across the country ladder up to a nation that finally governs for all. About "In The Making" Hosted by Baratunde Thurston and featuring PolicyLink President Ashleigh Gardere and CEO Michael McAfee, "In the Making" explores how we redesign the nation to serve all. About PolicyLink PolicyLink is a national research and action institute working to redesign this nation so that it governs for all.

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