Hey everyone, it's Rachel, digital producer for BravoTV.com, coming to at you from 30 Rock in New York City. And I'm here with our podcast producer Grace Rosen. Hello? She's filling in for Megan this week.
Who's not here? On Megan's solo show. She let me say hi in opposite. Yeah, so I'm way better.
This is a new journey. Yes. Basically, I'm far more generous and nice than Megan could ever be. I'm a little nervous.
This wine is helping though. Yes, so, fun fact you guys, a co-worker of ours was recently in Sweden, and she generously got us a bottle of high-kick rose. The one and only Frederick Echoland has a wine label, and it's called high-kick, and then this is the rose of it, that we were drinking. It's only available in Sweden.
You can't get it in the US. It costs 99 crooner. Crooner, which is like $12. So affordable.
Yeah, absolutely. In Sweden and the US. It's pink, it's super cute at the bottle, but I just want to read you the description on the back because it's amazing. Please do.
As a light breeze drips in from the Adriatic Sea, I stare at the reflection of the sunset in my glass of high-kick rose, and I think to myself, this is the life. This moment is what it's all about, what I've worked so hard for, and I'm finally here. Creating my own premium Venetian wine and being able to enjoy it with some of the best food this world has to offer is a dream come true. A dream that I would like to share with you.
Wow, Frederick Echoland. And I just want to say that the bottle, there's this little man in his suit, high-kicking in the corner, and it says, Hi-kick, by Frederick Echoland. It's so cute. That description was poetry.
I mean, I don't know if anyone follows Frederick Echoland on Instagram, but all of it is Instagram posted to read like that, and it's amazing. I feel like I'm sitting at an intimate dinner table with him at his home in Connecticut, like Louise. I'm so jealous. To only be there.
I know. We have a little taste of the Echoland life. Speaking of, this episode is brought to you by Hi-kick, and I'm just kidding, it's not. I wish.
I wish. Frederick, are you out there? Please, we'd love to have an episode sponsored by your Hi-kick Rosé. Actually, we're talking to Frederick.
Next week, we are. We're two weeks from now. Soon. Well, so did the premiere of M.D.
on New York? All three brokers. I'm very excited to meet Steve. Yes, including New, I was going to say, Broker.
Steve Quilt. So, Frederick Echoland not only is in our lives this week because of the Sey-Buddle that we got from our friend. But he was on this week's episode of Real Housewives of New York. Yes.
And not only did we get to see him tell Bethany that her house is cluttered, which I thought was hilarious, we found out that him and Bethany will be having a new show called Keeping It Real Estate. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. I don't know if you have to say it like that, but I like to say it like that. Keeping it real estate.
Maybe that'll be the theme song. Maybe, maybe they'll just call me up. Be like, Rachel, we need your voice. Grace hasn't seen it yet, I have, but we want to watch the preview of this new show.
With two of our faves. Beth and Fred. Beth or Fredany? Whoa.
I think I like Bethrick better. I love to choose a celebrity couple name. I agree. My little team of 10 people closed a billion dollars last year.
It's more than anyone's ever sold. I love, wow, you look amazing. Fredrick is a friend of mine for years. He's in the high end real estate business.
I make it a license. Wait, you want to get into real estate? I actually think we should do business together. What am I doing?
Am I crazy? I do think that between us, the sum is greater than its parts. Cheers, I'm ready. I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
She's an incredible business woman. And I am, I'm incredible. If we're going to do this together, you have to pull in the stone down low. So I love stones a lot.
I want to sleep, I want to sleep in stone. I never invested my money with anyone else. I haven't invested with anybody either. If I like those, it's been designed to small better.
It's a hundred feet long. It's all the men's day to me. I look at the four and a half of this drastic. I like a woman that looks like a sled dog in the beginning and a supermodel at the end.
Do you know what a sled dog is? Mush? Of course he has a sled dog. He's from Sweden, Bethany.
But I love that he looks directly into the camera. So I'm super excited about this. I love them both. They're real life friends.
Yes, and you can tell. That comes off. And I think it's really interesting that neither of them have invested money with anyone except for each other now. And they're both like, you know, they both like their money.
Earlier this month, Justin Bina from our dish team caught up with Bethany Frankel and talked to her about the new series. Oh my God, I'm producing a television show, keeping it real estate. We've been filming a bad month and it's stressful and hilarious. I mean, it's really funny, but it's very intense.
It's so real and I keep saying it for a trick. Because his show is more formatted and I keep saying to him, the show is always going to be ahead of you. You'll never be able to keep up with the show and it keeps happening. And he's like, I don't even know what's going on.
He said, we filmed for so long, which is more like house-wise. I'm like, yeah, we're filming for hours and then, you know, see what happens. So it's different. And we're having a great time.
It's very phenomenal. Because people haven't seen the side of him. People see Frederick in charge of everything and he's the business guy and he is and he's amazing. But this is showing when you film for two hours, you're going to see something different.
And so it's very different for him and it's amazing. I think it's bringing that aside to him that people have never seen. I mean, I know it is. And it's different for me.
My production company, B Reels, producing it. So I'm involved in the process, editing and I'm excited. I think it's really good. It's both of us investing millions of dollars of our own money, which neither of us have ever done before.
So you're getting a high-stakes situation and it's scary. Yeah, it's scary because it doesn't matter if Bravo would love a happy ending. If we're not coming to terms, there's no happy ending. So I have no idea what's going to happen.
So clearly, Bethany's real excited. Yeah, she's hyped. But I also wanted to talk about how this isn't the only new show for Bethany Frankles. She will also be on Shark Tank.
Dun, dun, dun. Grace is not familiar with Shark Tank. Never seen it. But I love Shark Tank.
My boyfriend got me really into it. And I think she's perfect for it. I think she'll go toe to toe with Kevin or a Game Store Wonderfall, those of you who watch Shark Tank know what I'm talking about. And I think that she'll, she's a great business woman, as we all know.
So I'm really excited to see. And I secretly hope that she becomes a fixture. I trust Shark Tank. I would give her my money to invest.
Me too. I'll work too. No, no, no. You don't give her money.
She gives you money. OK, I would take that as well. I don't have any good ideas though. Oh, well, you know my idea, Grace.
Rachel is very passionate about her startup idea. So my startup idea is it's not as much as an idea as far as like new technology, but it's like a new market, I would say, a new niche where it's a basically like an ovulation calendar. Those tend to be for when you're trying to get pregnant. That's what all the branding is for.
Mine would be so when you're trying to not get pregnant. So like right now, on like an ovulation calendar, like a flower will bloom when you're ovulating. But like no. Ideally, what I would have would be on stage, ring the alarm, come on, and be like, no, alarms, alarms.
Now is not the time. That's what I need personally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that dramatic romantic.
Yeah. And I think young women of the world, or even the Sonia Rita's, or the tinsleys now, I think they could benefit from it as well. I see a real market. See?
Nobody steal that idea. Thank you. No, please, guys. Yeah, I'm trademarking it now.
I have the tapes. Literally. Don't take my idea, guys. But yeah, I think she'll be great.
I'm so excited to watch Shark Tank with her on it. She's formidable, and I think it'll be a blast. Should we go into the show? But getting more into the show, we only dipped our toe in with Frederick and Bethany.
Well, the first thing on the note sheet is just the phrase Tom's likes. Right. So Luann and Tom are going for a walk in the park. And there's a comment about his legs.
I'm going to pan down. And me and Grace were both very impressed. What is that? What is that?
Is that an appropriate? So knee down, the cast were singing to us, basically. So we get it, Luann. It's a beautiful tune.
It's a beautiful tune. And Grace, I know you had feelings about Carol's hair. I did. So in last week's episode, two weeks episode, someone commented that when Carol was in the office, I obviously, but her hair was noticeably shorter, more of a lob than the sort of long waves.
And I noticed in her testimonial this week, we're seeing that new look. She looks incredible. But also, this moment when Ramona walks in, organizes her glasses, and then says, Not like Donald Trump, because that's not, I don't believe, Donald doesn't use a germophobe. So let's get power to this.
OK, please. Go ahead and shake your hand for Christ's sake. OK, I know. I mean, so many wonderful things about what just happened.
Classic Ramona-ism. Calling someone. Classic Ramona-cansaya turn a phrase correctly. Only Ramona would call someone a germaphone, not a germaphobe.
And then Grace Grotto brought up a good point when we were talking about this episode. Does she know Donald Trump? Like, that was a mob show. Does she mean like, I know him like, we all know him?
Or does she mean, I know him like, can Richard's knows him? Ooh. Right. Probably Mr..
I mean, New York's a small town. It is. And I would be surprised. I'm sure they were on the stand.
I'm sure she has met him before. I could see that. Wow. I don't know.
Mysteries abound in this episode. So then we're in the Berksers. Cut to. Cut to those bersichers, which I love.
I feel like that was a fan phrase that is in. They totally accepted it and they infiltrated it. We did the bersichers. That's what's happening now.
But during that amazing plan, she's going to bring in the wives in shifts. Yeah, she's not going to lie. What happened last year happened again? No.
She will be making it nice again, but for real this time. So she's got these three waves. The first, Sonia, Ramona, and then quickly after Tim's. Yes.
All the blondes show it first. Then we've got Carol and Bethany. Yes, yes. Now we're getting into the darker brunettes of the group.
And then, last but very not least, Luann. Yeah, I want to point out really quickly that these teams coincide perfectly to Ramona's predictions for how the reunion couches would be divided. Oh my god, I didn't even remember that. Grace.
This is one of the many gems that came out of our interview with Ramona, which aired back in the episode from May 11th. How do you think the couches will be divided at this year's reunion? I'm not really sure because it's not over. But let's say I guessed it right last year.
So probably this year it'll be me, Sonia, Derinda. The other couch will definitely be Carol and Bethany, which is kind of funny because last year Carol, Bethany were on the same couch. Then you have maybe Luann will be on the same couch as Carol and Bethany. OK, we have Tinsley.
Tinsley would probably be with me. So it'll be the four blondes against the three brunettes. I don't want to say that way. Yeah, I think it's going to be wrong.
We'll see. So maybe it all goes back to the Berkshires. Maybe. Maybe this is the beginning.
This is the beginning. Yeah. So wise, Ramona. So wise.
I can't wait to see if her predictions come true. I know. I know. So then you have basically Ramona and Bethany and Carol had this plan to talk to Derinda about we need to get Luann out of this marriage.
Mm-hm. What I found the most fascinating about the conversation, and because I've seen parts of the next episode already, I will say that it gets even deeper, is Bethany being like, listen to me. I have been through it. I have gone into a bad relationship, and it is torture.
I was surprised how candid she was. Exactly. I agree. I was surprised because she never talks about Jason.
And that gave the whole conversation so much more sort of gravitas. Right. Wait. I agree.
It was like a real friend coming to another friend. Yeah, because sometimes, you know, on the shows, people are just trying to kneadle each other. But this seemed like, no, I genuinely am worried. I genuinely think he's a bad guy.
And because Bethany brought up Jason, it really did add this extra layer of like, oh, she's serious. Bethany's not just doing this. I think she's really concerned for the win. And again, Carol too, especially after talking to that woman, who was like, I think she's going to get married no matter what.
And I think that she's just going to figure out after she goes down to aisle, but she can't get out now. I was like, oh my god. Yeah, someone says, or as the win says, I'm next on, the wedding's in like two weeks. That's so crazy about all of this too.
Like two weeks away, could you mention all your friends are like, hey, by the way, if you really don't want to do this, it's OK. Also, I've gotten text messages from people who are saying that your soon to be husband is groping women and trying to stick his tongue down their throat. On a pure logistical like, invitations have been sent. Right?
You've posits been put. I've already spent some money on this. That's where my head said. We didn't talk about this, but we wanted just to discuss Derinda's once again, amazing decor choices.
Oh, that house is incredible. It's just incredible is the word for sure. She at one point is placing a tiny golden bird on an already full mantelpiece. And just as quietly, more is more.
And she's right. And we agreed, Derinda. Thank you for your more is more aesthetic. I love how everyone coming into you had to comment on like, oh my god, it's really Christmassy.
Oh yeah, yeah. But I love a Christmas tree shop. Me too. Anytime there's like a neighborhood that has like a little competitive spirit that goes crazy with the lights, I will drive up to an hour and a half to see that.
I know. So you would love a night in Blue Storm Manor. Oh, it's my dream. I do want to talk about the Sonya and Tinsley hat moment.
Yes. I watch it. And I generally can't decide who's right. Like, I can't decide if Tinsley is asking too much or if Sonya is overreacting.
I don't know. It's hard when you are, you know, I guess in someone's home. But it's sort of extended guests? Right.
Because you do live there. So you're not really a guest anymore. Right. And like I understand like I just asked him to open the door if he hears it.
What's the big deal? But at the same time, if it's like somebody that's you're like working for your friends, doing your friends business. Like and you're also if you're also in the house, why can't you just hang out by the door? Yeah, hang out by the door or listen for her.
Have them call your number. I want more from Connor. I want your Connor side. Oh, great idea.
Grace get Connor on the phone. All right, well we're gonna work on it. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna work into a phone or at least with Connor. There's also another amazing moment that I don't know if everybody caught.
But twice in this episode, like she sent me to Texas. I mean, we've all sent Texas where people have taken it the wrong way. And that is such a Teresa Judy Chating. New Jersey fans will know that Texas is something that always like you sent me to Texas.
Where the Texas? I got the Texas. Hold up my Texas. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. What are you doing? I don't know.
What are you doing? I don't know. I don't know. It's a hard word to say fast.
It is hard a hard word to say fast. I get why you would add like, Texas is to it. But it's just every time they do it, it cracks me up. And it just reminds me of Teresa Judy Chay.
Teresa Judyay. I miss you. Come back. I can't wait to hear back in my life.
But there's another Real Housewives to talk about. Potomac returned this week at its new time, and oh, did it return with a big bang. I mean, there were so many things that happened. And I really want to talk about it first.
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You know what, appreciate that piece, Derinda Medley. Was Kelly at Luan's wedding? Good question. I don't know.
Did they meet? I think they might know each other. I got to talk to Derinda about this. First of all, I want to talk about Karen sharing her story about what happened during college.
She works with a organization called Pave, which does a lot of really good work for victims of sexual assault. And she was spoke at one of their events, alongside Don Lemon, which was a huge surprise to me. Both of them so brave for coming forward, doing such good work helping other people. I was blown away by her strength.
Yeah. Yeah, I thought she was so in control of her own story. And I was really proud to have it be on our network. Yeah.
And have someone to use this platform to do good. Absolutely. So she brought her blog this week, and I was trying to read some things from it. I asked her what was going through her mind that night at the Pave event.
And she said, on the night of the Pave event, I was thinking of a million and one things. I was grateful to have the opportunity to share my story publicly. I was honored to do my part in shattering the silence of sexual abuse. And most importantly, I was hopeful that by sharing my story on the Pave platform, you might save someone's life.
That's amazing. And then I asked her what did she think about? This was the first time I think most of the women heard about it from the Housewives from Potomac. She said, Pave is an organization that is very dear to me.
What I admire about all the ladies is their ability to put aside pettiness and come together to support one another. It was comforting to have my friends in the audience and I'm grateful for the love and support. Yeah, that last bit. I love when Housewives sort of come together around a cause.
And you kind of saw that in Bev this year when I lean went because her and Lisa weren't doing well, but she went and helped with the dogs and found out what happened at the UN festival. And so I think there's been cases where people really like put stuff aside. That is an interesting example too, because we just got an update this week. Oh my gosh.
Speaking of, we found out that Lisa Vanderpump has won the fight against this Ullen Dog Festival. Yeah. She told the Daily Mail, if it's true that we've been instrumental in stopping this barbarity, then we are thrilled. She said, it's a huge step in the right direction, but it's not over yet.
Wins all around for our Bravo Lebanese this week. But moving on to, let's call it the emu in the room of this episode, that crazy fight at Oz. Yes. I was shocked that they did that there.
Like, I don't know why at this point, I'm ever shocked by anything anywhere else I just do, but I really thought that was a lot. That was on 15. Like, usually one through 10, that was 15 for me. Even Michael on the phone with Ashley afterwards was like, wait, that was in the restaurant?
Like, that was in front of people? And when they walked in, you visibly saw Robin's energy was like ready. Like, she was like, she was ready to go. She was ready to have this fight.
And I don't think that Ashley really knew, because at first she was like, oh my god, I'm going to read surprise, hey guys. I would love to know the logistics to see if Ashley knew that they were coming in, if she thought that they were just going to stop by and say hi, or was she ready for a fight? Yes. Because Robin and Giselle were like, we're going in there, and we're talking to her.
Like, they were ready to go. So I think Ashley had no idea what was coming from what I saw. And then the finger in the face moment. Yeah, it's tough.
And then they all just went real low with all of their marriages. Right. Like, nothing was secret. No.
And then when Giselle and Robin were leaving, and they were like, ew, who wants to eat emu anyway? And I was like, this is her business. That's another thing where you don't talk about the kids. You don't talk about the business.
As Sonia told us two weeks ago on Roni. I also, and I know you picked up on this too, the woman at the bar. Yes. I wrote a whole post on this and brought it to the icon.
You can check out. But we were all that woman at the bar that bent over to see what was happening with these three women yelling at each other. I want that gift immediately. Yes.
So what, again, Karen said about this incident, which was, ambushing Ashley at her place of business in front of her customers is capitalized dead wrong. Furthermore, could someone tell me why Mr. Zell is writing gunshot in this ambush? Once again, Miss Word on the street is traveling down a street she has no business on.
Just tell her to have stayed in her truck. Whoa. Boom. In Newgar.
Bring it in. But you know, Ashley and Robin have never gotten along from the beginning. Ashley Googled her. I was like, oh, so I see that you're bankrupt?
What's up with that? Which like, not the best way to like meet someone new. Right. To bring up their bankruptcy.
That's just a nice new issue. How's your money doing? Exactly, exactly. So it's just, there's a lot of messiness going on in this episode.
But I also want to talk about Cherise. And I pretty much cried at my desk because I know I say that a lot, but I really did. When she was talking to her daughter, and her daughter was like so strong for her. I was like, you know who's holding it down for Cherise?
Her daughter. Yeah. Skylar is really the backbone of this family. It's what's going on here.
It reminded me of when we have so many good housewife daughters. Like, Gia. Brianna. Brianna.
Avery in last week's episode. Telling her mother to be a bigger person. Yeah. I think these women raised strong daughters.
But back to Cherise. Yeah. We interviewed her. And come to find out.
She's still not divorced from Eddie. No. Even though she's had like at this point, like several different announcements, kind of alluding to the fact that she's going to get divorced, talked to her daughter about it. Yeah.
In the show, she seems sort of so raw and sort of resolute about this next step in her life. And then when we interviewed her in real time, she seemed like she had other priorities. Yes. I will let you hear those priorities right now.
Hi guys, it's Megan. And it's Rachel. We are here with Cherise. Cha-cha.
Cha-cha. You really want Cherise or Cha-cha? Well, I did want to pull a James Lipton and ask if we can talk to Cha-cha for a while. OK.
I am Cha-cha. Yeah. Cha-cha. Cha-cha.
Just Cherise today. OK. Yeah. She's just a little different.
Oh, she's just a nice. But it's a little good. Right. She's wearing like a very nice, form-fitting purple dress.
Yeah. Cha-cha wants it to be a little tighter though. Oh. It's not working.
She's kind of... And Cha-cha was like, we had longer with the hair. Oh, Cha-cha. It lets get some more hair.
Make it longer. So yeah, so now it's like, to my butt almost, or you know. Yeah. Yeah.
It looks so good. Amazing. Thank you. So, what was that?
Cherise. You know, it was a combination. Mm-hmm. You know, because I've...
She was there. Yeah, she definitely was there. She definitely was there. She wanted to be there a little more than she was, but you know, I just didn't want to beat a dead horse.
So I just... Cherise kind of talks... Cha-cha into just chilling. So...
Yeah. Well, Cha-cha and Cherise may have two different answers to this question. OK. Is there sex in the champagne room?
You know, no. You know. Unfortunately, there's a delinquency in that department. Right.
OK. We're looking forward to sex in the champagne room at some point. Maybe when my daughter leaves for college. That's another year.
She'll be here next year. Right. Yeah. Did she watch the Atlantic College?
She's looking at Duke. She's looking at Duke. She wants to be a doctor. Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah. She actually has a project out in space right now that's being tested. What? Yeah.
You didn't know. No. Yeah. Cherise creates brilliant children.
Cha-cha on the other hand. She probably would have been drunk. Oh, I love it. This episode of Karen was like, when I had my daughter, I gave a gift to the world.
She's so dramatic. She kills me. I'm like, where did she get this stuff from? But she really believes it.
That's the thing. She really believes it. Right. That's a wonderful gift.
Thank you, Karen. Thank you so much. I love it. I love it.
I love it. So, Cha-cha, can we get a little bit of a rap? You know, I really, I'm not a rapper. I did it in high school.
So, the only rap I actually know, that one rap that I did in high school. But I'm looking to increase my rapping abilities. Now, I'm hanging out with this little fun girl Monique. Right.
She's so good. Oh my God. But it's a total different world. I'm like, Cha-cha-cha is what I'm called.
I'm like, whoa, wait a minute. So, yeah. So, we'll have to have like an old school, new school type of thing. Oh my God, a rap battle.
No. We are not battling. She went in hands down. I might even have to set myself up like that.
Maybe you could just be like her hype man. Unless Drake would do something with me. Oh, yeah. That's the only way to happen with Drake.
Okay. I'm just going to put it out there in the universe. Drake, if you hear this, let's do a song. Of course he does.
Of course he does. We're going to get them on the phone right now. So, I wanted to talk with you a little bit. We talked to Robin just now about the season.
It wraps. There's that time between the season starts again and how that affects all your relationships. So, considering just this past episode we saw you kind of make up with Giselle, and then were you good through the season, and then the season started again, where are you at with her and your relationship? I don't like her.
Oh. Cha-cha doesn't like her. Okay. Yeah, at all.
Because. Do you want to know why? Yes. That would be great.
Yeah. Cha-cha feels she's a liar. I mean, she's put things out there that are totally untrue and have no validity. My words are so jack up today.
But the fact that I'm going through what I'm going through in my marriage is being called divorce, and to say that I watched the second episode, I think it was, no one was the first episode where she says, I told her that I cheated on my husband. I don't even talk to a girl. So, she's having these imaginary conversations with me. At one point, I'm flattered that she's thinking about me and her sleep where we're having these conversations.
But at the other hand, I'm thinking, what person does that? Like, why would you go and put it out there to try to sabotage someone's character? To me, that's just wrong. But outside of that, I'm trying to get past it and move on because I have to because of the show.
But I don't like her. Is that hard being hanging out with Robin, being friends with Robin? No. Okay.
Even though I hope Robin understands what she's dealing with, because I don't trust a person like that. And I think this experience has shown Robin what type of person that she's actually dealing with because she will do anything. And it's true. Yeah.
So, I'm glad I gave her some storyline though this season. But she doesn't have one. I mean, really? What do you know about her?
Half of me, I kind of feel sorry for her because I'm trying to figure out where's all this coming from. But then at the second hand, Shaw Shock is a little pissed off and I want to kick her ass. Oops. Can I think that word?
Yeah, yeah. I can. No. She just does not use those words.
But yeah, Shaw just wanted to hurt her, like seriously hurt her. And so that was the hard part because, you know, I was thinking about my children, they have to go to school the next day and all this nonsense. That's, I mean, it's one thing if it were true and there was some validity to what she was saying. But even if it were true, the fact that you call yourself a friend of mine and you're going to go and just do that.
And then I have to prepare my children for this when they go to school like, okay, she, I don't know what this is and this is what happened and this is said, you know, and they're good about it. But, you know, they have to go to school and kids are talking. Oh, you know, this is interesting. Everybody's interested in my sex life.
I can't wait till I have it and tell everybody about it. Yeah. And tell everybody about it. Please come back to the left here.
You are going to hear it. It happens from Maryland. You're going to be like, oh, yeah, it's your reason. Get it in.
It's been a long time. I'm sure everyone will hear. I was interested in how you all got involved in the show and talk about. Yeah.
I'm friends with everyone that was casted. So they were like, well, you're like, sort of like the glue. And so I told Eddie and when I, to be honest with you, when I told him why I said they want me to do this reality show, you know, how, all the time we know was housewives. We were thinking maybe it could be housewives.
And so he said, well, if you do it, we'll probably get a divorce. Not the answer I was expecting. So when he said it, I was devastated. Like I literally gave up my career twice because of his career.
We moved to California, New Jersey, Maryland, Philly, back to Maryland, you know, and now I say a few words and you're going to say to me divorce if I do this. So it kind of put me in a different space of now really want to do this. That's for you. Yeah.
Yeah. So she don't see on the show because they can't cover your entire life prior to taping. I had three deaths and my family lost three brothers within two years. So I was like sort of already in like a sad zone and I thought, oh, I can do this.
It'll be fun, you know, just put my mind somewhere else. And so when I decided to do it and he decides he wants a divorce, if I do it, it's like now another sort of like another death. So that's one last season I was like so checked out, but at the same time it was like, I needed to do it for me. And so that's why I did it.
Was there any part of you that thought he'll change his mind? I did. I did. In fact, I think I kind of thought just telling him, because I'll be very honest, our marriage was already in a murky place.
So I was thinking, oh, you know, I have this opportunity and it would make him like, okay, let's work on our stuff, you know, because I knew he didn't want me to do it. He wouldn't want me to do it. But I didn't expect him to say, okay, we'll get a divorce. Like really?
So yeah. So I'm here. Yeah. Well, we love you.
Did you have reservations about returning this season or were you just like, no, I was ready this season. I wasn't ready last season. Right. And then in the other room, after watching last season, I saw this pathetic person who lost themselves herself.
And that's one shot, I said, okay, let's get her back. You know, so seeing last season actually helped me to get to a different place in my life. So actually it was a good thing that happened. Everything happens for a reason.
Yeah. And if you don't mind me asking, so the divorce process, like where is that? And you know what? The crazy thing is, okay, we are getting a divorce.
Neither one of us has filed yet. Interesting. And the reason is probably because we're both lazy. It's not because like, oh, we might get back together.
Right. That's not going to happen. It's just like we're lazy in terms of doing this. You know, I think we, you know, it's not like I have someone in my life and I want to be with this person and I need to get a divorce so I can be with someone.
So, you know, I'm not like rushing like, oh, first thing to do tomorrow is to, you know, get this done. But I do need to get it done for closure purposes. So it is going to happen. Yeah.
What, I don't know if you are familiar with Real Housewives of Atlanta, but they had a divorce party. I saw the divorce party. Absolutely. I hope they let in, I'll help plan the divorce party because we know it's going to be a lot of fun if Shoshows in the building planning.
Right. We were birthday party. Oh, thank you. Shari's planned that.
Shosh, I want to have some strippers in there. I think. I mean, nice strippers. Nice one.
Tod line. Yeah. Tell us about Sheldon. Sheldon.
Oh, great. Sheldon is so funny. Oh my God. He is a bottle of laughter.
He makes you cry from laughing. He's just such a funny guy. I met him through Skyler's cheering experience. He was her coach and I used to hang out with the coaches during the away trips and we would go away there of City City.
I was like, I look forward to hanging out with this group. It was a group of gay guys and I used to hang out with them and we used to drink. Have a good time. And they were all freaking hilarious.
And I just look at this guy. We're not really big. Like, you know, after every competition, we would get together, go to dinner and just have fun and Sheldon just makes you crack up. You don't have to even say anything.
He's an entertainer. He's just funny. How old is he? He looks like he's 13.
Right. He's actually 28. Oh, okay. Yeah.
I'm not that it's that much of a difference. It's older. He's older. He's older than he looks.
Right. Well, we see him more throughout the season. Does he get involved in any? Because I feel like he's a pretty writer die.