Greg Cope White & Dale Kiker: The True Story Behind 'The Pink Marine' & BOOTS on Netflix

Send us Fan MailEver wish you had a BFF who loved you so unconditionally that you felt safe being exactly who you are?!This week on The BabyGay™ Podcast, PJ Brescia (they/them) sits down with Greg Cope White (he/him), author of The Pink Marine, and his lifelong best friend Dale Kiker (he/him) — the duo whose 51-year friendship inspired Netflix’s queer hit BOOTS. They’ve been inseparable since a school bus in 1974 New Orleans, surviving Marine Corps boot camp, Mardi Gras chaos, identity journeys, and adulthood side-by-side. One gay, one straight, both ride-or-die forever. PJ’s had the same straight BFF since they were 5… and the parallels are uncanny.This conversation is a love letter to friendship soulmates — the queer–straight bonds that shape us, save us, and hype us all the way into our full selves. Greg and Dale share what it was really like serving before “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” the quiet fear of hiding who you are, and the loud joy of having a best friend who refuses to let you shrink. Dale is Greg’s eternal hype man, ally, and brother, and the way they talk about each other will restore your faith in humanity (and maybe make you text your best friend immediately).This episode is truly...bonkers! ;)Links: 📖 Read The Pink Marine by Greg Cope White 📺 Watch BOOTS on NetflixFollow Greg Cope White: IG: @eatgregeat TikTok: @thepinkmarineBabyGay™ Podcast, a 2026 Webby Honoree for Best New Podcast, is released every Thursday and hosted by PJ Brescia (they/them)—a 2025 Out100 honoree—celebrating queer stories, self-discovery, and the power of authenticity.Produced by Tom Gault and PJ Brescia. Special thanks to The Black Cat.Follow, like, and subscribe on TikTok , Instagram , and YouTube: @babygaytvwww.baby.gay