Greg Pak and Dr. Dan Cassino on STOP PROJECT 2025

Going into the 2024 US presidential election, a group of close to 50 comic book creators got together and put out the STOP PROJECT 2025 webcomic -- a non-fiction anthology that broke down the 900-page conservative wishlist that was Project 2025's MANDATE FOR LEADERSHIP into understandable chunks and readers know what they were really voting for if they supported it, or why they needed to vote against it if they didn't. Organized by Scott Dunbier and Steve Lieber, contributors included folks like Jen Van Meter, Lila Sturgis, Gene Ha, Cully Hamner, Greg Pak, Matt Fraction, Mark Russell, Sarah Ryan, Zoe Tennant, Rick Veitch, Greg Rucka, and more. Unfortunately, the comic's goal of stopping Project 2025 was not successful, but there are lessons to be learned from it, and today's episode has two guests (political scientist/pollster Dan Cassino and comics writer/STOP PROJECT 2025 contributor Greg Pak) to help Greg and listeners do exactly that. [This episode is number 838 in a series.]   CHAPTERS 00:00 – Intro 01:00 – Preface 09:35 – Project 2025 Explained  14:04 – A Crisis of Information  25:36 – Comics as Instructions 28:11 – AI and Apathy Atrophy 31:08 – Action Absorbs Anxiety 37:20 – The Zine Tradition 40:40 – Four Page Storycraft 45:38 – Comics Community and Comics in the Community 50:57 – Outro