Greta Lee

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Greta is an incredible actress. You may have seen her film, Past Lives. You may have seen her in the morning show. She's been in girls in Broad City in Russian doll. And she's so talented and beautiful and wonderful.

And we're going to talk about a lot of fun things. We're going to talk about being a waitress. We're going to talk about how to drown on camera. We're going to talk about all the fun we had making Russian doll together. And she's also going to explain her new part in Toy Story 5, in which she plays the villain.

And that villain is an iPad. But before we get into talking to Greta, we're going to speak to somebody who knows her, who wants to speak well behind her back and give me a question to ask her. And that is celebrity chef Alison Roman, Alison Roman, an author, a podcaster, kind of a food expert, hostess with the mostestist. And Alison is going to join us. I believe she has a cat that's also going to join as well.

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Hi. Hi. It's so nice to meet you. I can't tell you how nice it is to meet you. Is this your personal kitchen?

It is. I love you. It's like that. This big guy is here. This is Leonard.

He's just such a big guy. Leonard. Yeah, he loves to be in the mix. Well, first of all, we're going to talk about Greta today, the great-granny. But I do want to talk to you about First Bloom, which is your brick and mortar store that you open in the Catsgills and you're opening perhaps other places.

Perhaps. Yeah, I started a little grocery store in 2023. I was like, I'm going to open a grocery store and then I did. And I was like, okay, well, now what? But I'm really well and I love doing it.

And yeah, we're going to open one in Brooklyn later this year. I listened to podcast while I grocery shop. We're listening to music because I like the, I don't really want to chat. No, I don't want to chat. Although I can do, I mean, I guess it makes sense because I did open a grocery store.

But you don't like the co-ops? I don't know. I like doesn't really have this is very Brooklyn. This is very Brooklyn. Yeah.

I don't like the co-ops. It's so stressful to me. Who is it? Exactly. It's my worst nightmare.

To walk into a place and people are already disappointed about my participation. Oh, yeah. Like, hey, nice to see you. It's been a while. So that's it.

I did determine that like, I thought if there was a job that I would do at a co-op, which doesn't exist, but like I would stand in the isles and effectively like tell people what to do. Like if people were like, what do I do with like Red Luntels? I'd be like, oh, well, I hear some great things. And then I just stand there. I don't have to do anything else.

That's really smart. You'd just be like, you'd be like the cruise director. Like let's talk about ramps. Yeah. What are you really going to do with us?

Let's be honest with ourselves. Are they going to rock and the thread? You can throw them away. You're going to come with them. But like the number of times I'm in a butcher shop and I hear like a person, most often a man who doesn't know what they're doing and they ask the butcher and the butcher like gives them kind of vague advice.

I sometimes pipe up and I'm like, oh, you don't want to grow up. That's going to be a nightmare. You know, like sometimes I actually like to see her at three, but you know, like, and I'd say eight times out of ten, they are so uninterested in what I have to say. Like they're like, thanks. I'm just a lady in the book.

They're like, thanks, lady. Yeah. And I'm like, some people would feel for this. You're like, babe, I'm this is my professional. I'm like, I'm going to go save a life.

Yeah. Exactly. And imagine having a medical issue and the doctor comes over and the people are like, we're good. You know, that sort of feels like to be. I'm like being robust to the butcher, but.

Okay, so speaking of Brooklyn, I feel like that is where maybe you met Greta? It is where I met Greta. Yeah. Didn't you work together at a restaurant? So we did.

And I think like I was working at Milcar at the time, which was like, that we shared a kitchen with Sombar, which is where Greta worked. Yeah. But we were like in the basement. We were very separate. It was like, Milcar people and Sombar people did not necessarily commingle.

And so I knew I've heard. I think I saw her like the hot person that worked at Sombar. Yeah, like the most beautiful person. Exactly. You're like, who's this hot, cool person that's so well dressed and seems fun.

Like I can't be friends with them. I was talking to somebody about this. The other day, like how hard it is to be well dressed now because of the homogenous culture and everybody sees everything. And but she so manages to like carry through. I mean, her style is the envy of every person with a, with, you know, awareness of the Internet that has like seen all of her appearances over the last few years, but like she's always had it.

She's always had individuality that like really comes through. Let's talk well behind your back. What do you love about her? I love that she is one of the hardest working and also kind of people that I've ever met. And I also, and this isn't really like, you know, a virtue, but she is hilarious.

She's so funny and so funny and like has a great sense of humor and is just like such a bright light in the world. And no matter where she goes and like how she shows up, like just existing, she is as fabulous as you might think she is. If you've never met her and I have seen it with her kids and her family and her friends and with like a random server restaurant and with basically any human on the planet. It's exceedingly kind and generous but in like hospitable, she has like a real like hospitality vibe around her and I feel like she was always the person hosting. She's always the person inviting people over.

It's like the more the merrier energy every time. And that is such a rare personality trait, I think. Yeah, I mean, you are a great example of this, but it does feel like host so much of hosting is the vibe you give off when you're hosting. Yeah. So I love hosting.

However, I'll just say that I realized that at times I was a little bit of a stressy host. Hmm. You feel like you've outgrown that. Like you've moved on into a different era. I've worked on it.

I've worked on it. It has a good time when you're stressed out. Like everyone actually has a bad time. I know but like we all know these things about you know when you're when something comes out of your mouth and you're like, Oh, fuck, I said that out loud, like I still do it. I'll be like, Oh, it's fine.

It's not fine. It's not fine at all. You really need that but not yet. You know, like whatever stupid shit you say. And then there's like the apology par works like, well, this was supposed to do it.

But I didn't have to and it's like I even have to check myself in because I'm so good at giving people advice to not do that. And then I do that and I'm like, well, I'm a bad student of myself. Like I have to like practice that I preach here. Yeah. Yeah, it's very hard, but I'm really happy to hear that you're on the other side of that, or at least on your journey.

I'm working on it with professionals day and night. Yeah. Day and night. Okay, so we always start our episodes with a question for our guests. Do you have a question that you think Greta would like to answer or I should ask her?

Yeah, absolutely. I was thinking about what people don't know about her, like what people maybe don't ask her often, or like I wonder how much they get into like that restaurant part of her, because I have a belief that like once you're a restaurant person, you're always a restaurant person and it teaches you a lot. So I kind of want to know like how in this iteration of her life in this career does like what from restaurant days has she held on to? Or like how has working in restaurants made her a better actor or multi-hypnotize? Alice and I love that question.

I also was a restaurant person and waiter and for many, many years in New York and wanted to ask just that because I do think it is incredible training for life. Yeah, it's like the work ethic is unparalleled. I think that like she has so much of that and maybe that was pre-restaurants, but I also think if you have it, you're more inclined to work in restaurants, so it all kind of ties in together. Before we go, I'm going to ask you for some free advice like people do to doctors and to chefs, which is I feel like my artichokes, I have to take so much off. I can't even tell you how niche this question already is specifically to suit my intro.

I have a dried artichoke on my gonna boss right here. I did not, this is just on my counter. Like I'm obsessed with artichokes. Me too. I just got back from Italy, not to brag.

And the artichokes there were next level. It's fine. Incredible. I love how it looks. I'm just starting to work with them.

And it is like, it's supposed to be like what a gardener feels like when I have to just like crazy prune a rose bush. Like it's like, I have to cut all of that away. You're like, I'm killing it. I'm killing it. Cut the top, cut the snow, cut the stem, get all the leaves, almost all of the leaves off.

I guess my question, I'll make it is how do you like to prepare your artichokes these days? Well, forever and always. And let me also just say that I too have been Italy, not to brag. Not recently, but it has happened. And the way that they do artichokes there is so like, they're almost treating them like a trash vegetable.

Like they're so prolific and like the way that they grow and like, you see truckloads of them and they peel or like, pair back like the whole thing. It's just the heart. And they're like, the rest is garbage. They throw it all right. And I had never seen that until I left the United States, obviously because I grew up with basically a whole steamed artichoke where you trim the stem, but the stem is super edible.

I love eating the stem. The stem is basically like an extension of the heart. So it's just as tender, it's just as edible, it's sweet, it's delicious. But I just trim the leaves just right beyond the point. Okay.

And you cut the top. And I leave the whole leaf. Yeah, I cut the top to expose the little rose in the center. Yeah. But that's honestly just for aesthetics.

Like that's not really serving a purpose. But I like to do it. And then I'll season them and then I'll steam them. Yes. Like, you know, an inch or two of boiling water, artichokes, prop them up.

Do you take the size yourself out after they steam or before? After they steam. I think I learned that from you. I do have a video online on how to eat an artichoke. Thank you for confirming my positive artichoke bias.

I can't believe you have a dried one right in front of you. And I just also gonna say trim away like the tiniest leaves near the outside base of the top. And then once you steam it, if any of the like leaves on the outer part are too tough, just discard them. But like I don't trim it too far in advance. Okay.

I love to hear this. Okay. Listeners, I hope it's getting you hungry for artichokes. Thank you so much, Allison. What a pleasure.

And I'm sure Greta will be so happy that we talk. So thanks again. I hope so. I love her so much. She's so wonderful.

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Woohoo! Oh, I just want to stare at you. Oh my god, Greta is here and she has her arms full of gifts. OK, so I have some flowers. It's a collection of natives and non-natives.

People really care about that here. From your garden. Yeah, I'm on. Yeah, I'm on. We're from the White Sage and some, you know, well, lemon verbina and some paper.

And you wrapped it in a paper? Paper. People, this is a professional wrapping job with a rubber band and everything. Yeah, this is gorgeous. Thank you.

OK. We're going to put it over. There's more. I have this. OK, what?

It's like I'm worried you don't have a grocery store. Like you don't have access to a kale. This is from your garden? Yeah, and I have these eggplants. Honestly, you're helping me.

I can't eat this all. OK, I'm going to say something. I'm very sorry. What? I don't like eggplant.

I'm so sorry. Get them out of here. Get them out of here. I love how they look. They're so funny.

I love it as an emoji. Incredible. I know. But as a, you don't like the taste of this too spicy. It's too spicy.

But you can learn. You can listen. This is like now I have learned a lot of things you can do with eggplant. OK, what about kale? You like kale?

I love kale. Obsessed with kale. This looks like dinosaur kale. Dines are kale and curly kale. Look at this.

They're avocados. And it's a way of avocados for people listening. They're huge. They're huge. You can't eat them for like a year.

You can't like don't even give back. Just leave it here. It's like decoration. Don't even look at it. Don't touch it for like at least a year.

OK, I'm going to take that off. I can't tick. That's an oro-blanco. Excuse me. See, it's a cross between a pomelo and a white grapefruit.

They're delicious. Wow. It's really nice in an alcoholic beverage. With this is a Mexican lime. It's yellow.

It's wonderful. And some of the lemon verbana, you can put like flowers in your drink. I live in LA now. What happened? Well, I remember me.

I know you're very elderly. This is very LA. Look, I'm OK. I'm proud of her own kale. This is bad.

She brought her a kale. I mean, you have to have it in your car. Yeah, at all times. This to me is success that you have a garden and you bring in your fruit to people. That is.

Is it? Yeah. Oh gosh, that's success. Thank you. We have done so much stuff together.

We have. I was looking at what we've worked on together. And I want to talk about all of it. We're in brought to brett city. We worked on a show called Old Soul.

We worked on sisters. Russian doll. And I just want to start by saying, here's what I love about you. Not only are you super talented and so good at so many things, but I feel like you, how I would describe you is, you are a person who takes their work seriously, but not themselves seriously. Oh.

Would you think, would you agree that that's kind of true? Yeah. I do. Yeah. Yeah.

Next question. OK. So how do we first meet? How do we first meet? Because I don't remember when we met.

I mean, we met on some project that we worked on, but what which one, did I audition for you first? I mean, I'm sure we brought city. Maybe. Maybe. That time in New York gets really confusing to me.

Agreed. So I feel like I end up talking about it a lot, because once you get in the habit of telling your story of how you started, then you're telling the story. And then soon you're like, I don't even, is this real? Is this, am I lying? I know.

It's easier just to say the story. Yeah. And who can prove it? And then I was on girls. And then it was this really special, really important time for women and women in comedy.

And there was this moment. It was very distinctive. Because I think I was observing it somewhat from the outside a little bit, because I was coming off of doing theater. And I was like, really, just, I want to do straight theater. But Abby and Alana, and you and Tina, and Maya, and everyone on SNL, writing the wings of that into Lena, and Schumer, and everyone.

It was really, it was big. I want to talk about going back, because it's so interesting you bring up the theater park, because in researching you, I did not know that you, before I met you, had already been on the West End. No one cares. No one cares about that. I care about that.

You know? Really? Are you kidding? First of all, I don't know how people do it. So I want to ask you.

OK, but hold on. OK. Going back even further. Your mom. Classically trained pianist?

Yeah. Your dad. Doctor. Yeah. What kind of doctor?

He is a physical therapist. I need him. Do you? Yeah, let's go. What do you mean?

What's wrong? What's wrong with me? I said I wasn't going to bring it up. My fucking frozen shoulder is back, dude. No.

I know. I know. OK. So I need his number. Yeah, Doctor Lee.

And please, nobody call in. Nobody call in. This isn't even a call in show. Nobody calls. I don't know.

Nobody call in. Nobody calls in. Please don't give me your advice about frozen shoulder. I know all of it. I know all of it.

And I appreciate it. I can't. OK. This we're cutting all of us. I'm scared.

I have to go. OK, your dad is about there. Yes. So you have a left brain, right brain, household growing up. Yeah.

What was that? Was that true? Yeah. I mean, I guess that's what they say. They're like, I don't know.

My parents are weird. They're so amazing. Tell me. Wild. They're like, OK, well, I just took them to the Dior show.

OK. I know. So nice. Here's the thing. They invited themselves.

I want to talk about one incredible daughter right now. OK. I got a text from my mom that was a screen grab of a picture of Lachma, this is a venue for the show. And she was like, didn't say anything. Just a picture about an announcer that said Dior crucial will be at Lachma with a new David Geffen gallery.

And I kind of, I just, I didn't really respond right away. Which I think made it. You just gave it like a heart. I was like, yeah. Yeah.

You said to eggplant emoji. She's like, I'm very confused. She's like, I hate it when you do this. And she invited herself. She's like, so I'm kind of a time.

And your dad's coming too, because it's not fair. He's coming too. If I'm coming, which is funny. I was like, I didn't say you're coming. OK.

Let's break this down now because do you feel obligated to say? You can say no. I could. But no, actually I can't. OK.

OK. OK. OK. Because that's the dynamic. A little bit when it comes to certain things.

I also, OK. I mean, to be fair, I go to these things. And it's exciting. But to go with your parents, to go with my parents, it is something special. It is.

They've never been to a fashion show before. What did they think of it? They were amazed. Yeah, they they touched everything. They wanted everything.

They took their these blankets that were meant to keep people more. They grabbed all of them. They want they they have so many now. I mean, it was incredible. I don't know.

I think they were because sometimes they get shy. I know if you have this with family or relatives. I wish my parents were shy. OK. They go right up to like anybody.

Yeah, they go to like, right? They fancy was. Yeah, we want to pick them for the night. So they're the demanding type. Yes.

Yeah, like a little entitled. My parents were not shy. I'm not shy. My parents might. I would rather that.

But what makes it even more confusing is they're both it's a light switch. They're like so cosplaying like some sort of like silent shy demure thing. And then it'll just switch to super aggressive for demanding, you know, do you know who my daughter is? Yeah, kind of stuff. But your parents are first.

Are you first gen? They immigrated and had me here. OK, so I'm the first person in my family to go to school in America. Got it. And they immigrated from Korea.

Yeah, met there. And then they spoke Korean in the home or mostly English. Korean was my first language. Yeah, I really fucked up accent, actually, because we moved. By kindergarten, I was in Brooklyn.

And I had we were living in Kannarsi. And I had like a Korean Brooklyn accent. What does it sound like? They won't tell me. I want to know.

Is there anyone that has that accent now that I keep pointing back people and like her? Like that? And then they're like, no. No, but I went to ESL and I went to speech therapy and all of that. I'm dying to know.

Oh, how funny. Well, I want to talk about language in general, because a lot of your work is like circles around that, especially the most beautiful film, my favorite film of the past five, 10 years past. Sisters, sisters, yeah. That's right. Yeah.

But your little kid, you do singing competitions? Classical singing? Yeah. What's the difference between classical singing and singing? Well, it was like, it was opera.

It was, yeah. It was another way to say opera. Yeah. But I did things like, I won the Bach Festival. I'm like, what was I doing?

I was just like doing so many things. But I was so into it. Yeah. And my siblings, both my siblings, can sing pretty much every Italian aria because of me. Wow.

I hate singing it at me now. But that's like, I was so into it. Italian aria is at what age? I mean, middle school. I started in middle school.

And it was like a conductor of a children's choir at one point. Did they ask you to do it or do you just do it? I just did. They were like, why is she doing that? They were like, man, do we stop?

Stop doing that. I mean, you're a big time achiever. I mean, you work really hard. And I want to stop doing that. Well, I mean, what is like a through line in all of your stuff?

Is that, and what I meant in the very beginning is like, you really show up and you work really hard, but there's an ease to when you work there. There's not a striving vibe about you at all, Greta. But you are, when you look at what you've done, like before you arrived in New York, before you were getting all those acting parts, you were winning competitions and you were like studying theater and in like Broadway shows. Basically, I had my first job right out of the gate. In New York City, actually was Law & Order SVU.

I did one episode of those. Okay, pause. Yes. Okay, so we love Law & Order at this show. Yes, you do.

We've interviewed Marisha. I was like, great, Marisha Hargate. I did, I did a scene with her. Okay. Okay.

Now I tend to sometimes stay a little bit away from SVU because too sexy. Well, that's the one way to put it. Well, I just got too damn sexy. Because I get worried about like, is it going to be, is a girl going to be in the door? Is she hanging from the pole?

It's a lot. It was in the incest. I'm afraid to ask. It was such a good residual. I'm not so excited.

It did so well. Oh, God. Wait, okay. So you were. I want the young version of me wants to be an S.U.

I know. I know. I know. On Order by you. Okay, it's a really big deal.

But so imagine that that's my first job, right? Sure. And I call my parents and I'm like, I did it. Oh my gosh. Okay, it's airing this time.

You didn't tell them what it was. I'm like, okay. Oh my gosh. I don't know what. I don't know what they are.

What do you remember about shooting that with Marooshka and team? Oh, just I was like terrible. Like, you know, the bells are like, I know what I was doing. We have to know that sometimes we're in like a big studio before they start the scene. They like ring this giant scary bell.

Tornadoes coming. Yeah. Instead of ducking and hiding or running. You're supposed to act. Yeah.

And they're like, no, go cry. Exactly. Did you have to cry? What do you have to do? Oh, no.

I was the roommate of the victim. Okay. I was the participant. Thank God. Great.

So you just were around. You're like, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. Oh, man. You're like, I don't know.

She was here last Tuesday night. And then she was it. Yeah. All right. Putnam's spelling bee is the next big job.

Yeah. What does it like to do shows? How did you? I mean, you're a young person at this time. But what did you do to prep and get ready?

I'm always very curious about people that are on Broadway. Yeah. The seven shows or eight shows a week. I don't know. I think a lot of things happening.

What do you think is really cool? I had a lot of things. I didn't really like. I think I was like, you know, that's an incredible thing. Right?

So, I graduated from Northwestern, which was. A big 10 school. It was incredible theater program and all that. But it's also a big 10 school. So I learned how to do, like a keg stand and made.

All kinds of friends from Chicago, Wisconsin, and it was very formative. Yeah. And I kind of. Then was bringing that sort of like, oh, I'm going to move to New York City and come in and artist and live like a section city fantasy, but I had a very intense, full-time job and kind of. figure out how to be a responsible professional show up on time.

Yeah. You know, every time. Right. But you're on the West, and I want to ask you about Mark Ryland's. Yes.

I love him. He's an incredible actor. Yes, he is. Yes. That whole experience was also very unique, very special.

We did a play called Le Bet. Mm-hmm. It's a it was set in 16th century France, and it was in Iambic pentameter. Oh, my character only spoke and words at Ryan with Lou. Oh, dear.

Well, you say, oh, dear. Yeah. Oh, dear is right. That would definitely be one of those things that I would show up and be like, oh, man, I wish I knew this. No, I think he would be like, yes.

Really? I think he would. OK, cool. But this is like when I kissed and talking about this, I'm like, God, life is long. I'm like, wow, there's like so much stuff people have no idea about.

Well, you have had an amazing, interesting bunch of jobs. You have you have toggled between very dramatic and very comedic, which few people can do well. And you have gone back and forth and back and forth. I don't know why. Well, because you're hiring.

You're really good at both. Stop being good at both. Stop being good at both. I mean, I'm always worried that we're going to lose you because you're so naturally funny that you are going to lose me into my garden. I'm going to go.

You're never going to never come back. You're going to make jokes to the kids. They're going to get bigger. They're going to be kind of that. No, I'm afraid we're going to lose you to the drama world.

And oh, you won't. OK. All right. No. OK, so then here's something fun.

OK. You and I have something in common that I don't think we ever talked about, which is that we both worked in restaurants. Yeah. And I do think there's a very specific type of person that works in restaurants, especially like New York e-restrops. And you're younger than me.

But I imagine we, at the same time in our lives, worked in fancy restaurants in New York. So we do something on the podcast where we ask a friend or someone to speak well. Behind your back, and give me a question. We talked to Alison Roman tonight. Oh, my goodness.

Yes. Oh, my good. Good money. Yes. And she was with her cat, Leonard.

And we were talking about, she was talking about so many things that she loves about you. You're a ease as a person and as a host. You're incredible style. And how you don't make anybody feel bad that you're the prettiest schools for something. You never make us feel bad about it.

We just thank you, Greta. And also just your work ethic, how you have this way of getting things done that feels like somebody who used to work in the restaurant because you were working with her, right? Where were you guys working together? We were working for David Chang at the MOMO Fugu restaurant. What was that like?

That was a hot restaurant. That was so crazy. That was so fucking crazy. Crazy. I just so hard.

I just so hard. I'm so hard, so hard, so, so hard. But that time in New York, though, it's like what year was from like 2007, 2008 to, I don't know. I mean, I was there on and off for a good five years, maybe more. Yeah.

Like I go do a job. I book something and think like, oh, good. I'd have like a big good. Like I'm never coming back. Yeah.

Like a menu. Like, oh, and like pick up the tab, you know, oh my god. My friends who worked in finance, I'd like book like one, one commercial. I'm like, I got this. I got these buddies down even right.

And then just come crawling back. Yeah. But that time for food was really exciting. I was like, David Chang and we're friends now. We have kids at St.

Meijer and we live really close and we have mutual friends. And it's funny reminiscing about that time collectively because it's like Chef's for Rock Stars. And being a part of that was really exciting for all of us. Was it like working at like a restaurant that is so hot? You know, that everybody wants to get to.

What was it like? I was so powerful. Yeah. I was a hostess. I was like basically encouraged to be mean.

So great. Incredible. Yeah. OK, as a past hostess of a very fancy restaurant, what would you say to people? Never works.

Oh. You know what I mean? Like when would people get, you know, what would they do that you'd be like, absolutely not? The culture was different then. And you would easily tell someone, OK, it's going to be four hours.

That's not even within like a stretch of a meal time. Like four at like dinner time is over. Like if you're starting four hours is crazy. If four hours you get seated or four hours to eat? Four hours to get seated.

Wait time to tell someone like, and they're like, thank you, Mr. I have another. Do I just wait over here or do I like, do you want my phone? I'm like, no, go away. That's what that means.

Yeah, four hours means it's not happening. Yeah, it's not happening. Did you ever have people try to slip you cash? Yeah. And did they ever like try to like throw like fancy names around like?

Yes. But that I think that that restaurant though, I don't know where you work. That was really discouraged. So it's like that just wouldn't work. Sure.

I mean, I feel like when I was waiting tables, there was definitely a vibe of like a finance vibe, I guess, is the only way to say it. Where, and let's be honest, it was finance bros who were like, I'm willing to spend a lot of money here. Like that was the vibe like, I know you might have a system and reservations. Yes. But I'm very rich.

Yes. I know. Like I'm going to have so many oysters. Yeah. Where did you work?

I was in a place called Aqua Grill. Oh my God. Do you remember it? Yeah. It's rest in peace.

Oh my God. Yes. You were one of those bitches. Oh, I see it now. Yeah.

It was so hoe. We were like a so hoeing. Yes. And it was very like seafood forward. Yeah.

Yeah. I know. I know. You have to wear a press shirt. Oh, but no.

I had to wear a button down. And a button down. And I think it was a maroon apron. Oh, wow. I remember maroon was really big.

Yes, I do. So Allison's question starts. I'm getting out of Allison. So Allison's question was a really good one. I thought which was like, what have you held on to from your restaurant dates?

Like how does it help you as an actor? Yeah. Does it? Do you think about any of that? Like is there any connection to what you do now?

Yeah. I think like, you know, the expression being in the weeds, what that can feel like and like the crush of it and how exhausting it is. And I feel like that part that, I don't know, that kind of like multi-tasking, extreme multi-tasking. Yeah. What we do.

Yeah. I was like thinking about like something I shot where I was drowning. Oh my god. Acting. Acting so weird.

So weird. Why do I hate it? I hate it too. I do. So why did you have to drown into this recent?

No, no. Yeah. Did you know, Amy, that acting like you're drowning for something is just drowning? I can't. Did you know that?

This is why you should do drama. No. There's no reason. Don't do it. It's not any, and even getting in water.

Absolutely not. No swimming, nothing. Oh. So yeah, right. They're like, OK, so do the fake drowning.

Yeah. It's like, OK. I guess it's swallowing water. You have to choke and you have to, and when it's really good, they don't know if you're acting like you're dying. Oh.

How are they going to know that? And they tell you things like, well, you give them the sink signal. But like, that's like, but if you're dying. How are you going to give the sink signal? Yeah, I can't give the signal.

Because it really breaks the mood. It breaks the mood. Yeah. And also, you want to be good. So, I mean, I guess you're like, oh, turns out, maybe you don't.

But if you are successful enough at the drown, then you, it's impossible to distinguish between real and not, you know, well, this goes under a thing I like to say, don't be good at things you don't want to do. Right. So if you're good at the drown, you're going to get asked to do it again. Oh my God. So be careful.

Because if that scene is, there was a lot of it. Yeah. And it's going to be like, let's get Greta. She's good. Let's get Scuba certified.

Oh my God. No, no, no. People should not scuba. Sorry. I have a lot of hot takes today.

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And they are how old? Okay, let's see. Apollo is nine now and Ralph just turned seven. So having a seven and nine year old, those are kind of delicious times for boys. What's it like being the mom of boys?

I'm obsessed with them. Oh, God. I love them so much. Oh, it's so annoying. They're your little husband's.

They're my little husband. Yeah, okay. No, they're better than me. They're your best friends. They're your best friends.

They're your best son husband's. No, let's get it right. How have you changed from being because you're a mom? I mean, everything's changed. Everything's changed.

I, God. I'm also a boy mom and I think that is specific. I never thought about that one way or the other. And I look at other moms who are not boy moms. I'm like, oh.

Okay, let's talk about it because I also am a boy. Yeah. They held our yours. My guys are getting old. They're like 15, almost 16 and 17.

No. Yeah, they're. No, yeah. They're in 17. They're like, yes, I know.

They're like driving and out in the world and oh, God. I know. And almost voting. But you're, I want to talk about it because, you know, there's a joke about boy mom, but there is something very interesting about what's a joke about boy mom? Well, the joke is kind of that boy moms are, I guess, like a little more worn down because, you know, not all boys, of course, but and not all people kids identify as male, but in general, you have to play.

Yes. There's a lot of guys. Why do you think I'm so tan? You just always outside playing. I'm just, I'm like running on the bicycle.

I'm like, I'm doing stuff with the boys. I know you're like, it's always like camp. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Every day.

Just, you gotta run. I'm like dogs. You do. And, and, yeah, because, and I'm also talking about how much I want them to be outside and how much I want them to be in their bodies. And so what does that mean?

I have to be outside. Like I want them to play soccer. I'm playing soccer. Like I want them to, I'm doing all of it. Do you like doing it?

Are you an athletic person? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do like it.

Yeah. Do you play sports and like what was your sport? I did. I was like, I'm such an actor. I was always like, good enough.

I'm really good at faking it. Oh my God. Me too. I was really good at the talk. Yeah.

Same. Yeah. But sometimes I get it wrong. And I get to like, what are you doing? Are you fast?

Do you run? Yeah. You know what? I know. But what's that?

Again, how to do that for a movie. Oh God. That's right. Don't worry. Nobody's going to ask me to run for a movie.

It is so hard. So hard. It is so hard. It is so hard. You run it.

It's actually bad for you. I absolutely agree. Yeah. I had to run in something where did you have to run in for a time. I had to pretend that I was going to be killed if I didn't run for my life.

Okay. So if you think about that movie and you think about like the end, like no, I'm going to say like half of that movie, my character is running for her life. And I'm not like, you just have to sprint. There's no way to train for that. Yeah.

And my character isn't a marathon runner. It doesn't justify me. It's just like, right in this state, then suddenly running like, I don't know, like 13 miles, like in one, you know, a night shoot where I'm just broke. What? I broke.

Yeah. Again, I was like, why do you ran 13 miles? I measured. And yeah, with, I forgot how many takes we did where this one, you know, this is shot where it's like running along the length of a pier. And they had to bring in the, we shot down production because the next day I took one step and I couldn't, I couldn't walk.

Yeah. Of course. Because you basically ran a half marathon without any training. Oh my God. Yeah.

I mean, I train, I train, but I didn't train in the right way. I mean, I didn't know how, like I didn't know how I remember doing, um, Blades of Glory, this ice skating movie and the, we had an incredible, like, ice dancing coach, you know, like, was in the Olympics. And she would just be teaching me, I was like, I'm not going to be able to do this. Like, I am an actor. I will try my best.

But there's, I can't learn how to be an ice dancer. I don't, I can't do this. 15 years. I mean, what in the world, like we're going to have to, we're going to work on the work around this. You would just tell her this and then what would she say?

Well, really good coaches, you know, they just are like, they're like, yeah, you got this. No. I do not have this. And to your point about the chatter, I would, we would have our like workouts, which I dreaded, um, even though she was so wonderful. And I would, I learned, I was like, oh, you know what?

If I get a little coffee in her and ask her a couple of questions, you know, I can burn some of this time. So I would buy her coffee and I remember she would sit in front of the clock and be right behind her and be like, what is going on with your daughter? And she was like, okay, well, we have to get to work. But anyway, because I was like, please don't put me on the ice. Anyway, did you train, but you now run on your own in life.

Okay, good. Thank God. God, don't run again. No, don't ever run again. It's really bad for you.

Don't do it. Um, okay. When I met you, you had done a bunch of TV. Like you said, you were on run city, you were on girls, you were doing a bunch of different things and we worked together on a show called old soul, the Tasha Leon, a pilot that did not get picked up, right? And was the basic idea was Natasha was kind of the youngest person in a group of very old people and we gathered these incredible actors, Fred Willard, Richard Benjamin, Alan Burston, Marla Gibbs, Rita Moreno.

And it was a crazy cast shot not picked up. Yeah, insane. What do you remember about the Tiffany memories of that time? I remember Rita Moreno told me I was on my phone too much. So it really wasn't.

I still think about it. It's like one of those things. You know, you just can't, you're, I can't let go of that. So I'm like, I was barely, and I'm not on social media now. I'm very, I don't consider myself to be addicted.

I'm not, I wasn't. Well, but she told me I was. It's funny I'm having a memory that I did a movie with Charles Groden, a movie called The X and he said you're always on your phone. And I put my phone down. Like I remember seeing like, thank you for that feedback.

But Rita, she did. But she also, she, I think she just written a book or I don't know, she was giving a lot of sort of like life advice and sort of her take on things and it's so fun. It was really fun. I remember it feeling like such a short thing. I know.

I know, right? Okay. And then we worked together on Sisters, which is a movie for people of Paula Powell wrote it me and Tina were in it. It was a crazy talented cast, none of whom worked enough, in my opinion. It was like weeks and weeks.

What? What? I think it was no sense. What was happening? I didn't know it was just like, you and Kamekin and Bobbi Moynihan just like, aircraft service just like there.

It's so long for so long. Because that sinkhole, remember there was at that sound stage. That's right. indoors that the house, like all the plants were dying. That's right.

Decomposing. Do you remember? Yeah, we had to build a sinkhole. That's right. It did start to smell.

They built us, not you guys, but they built like Bobby, Kate, who else? John Glaser. Yeah. These little plywood cabins, like little boxes. I mean, they were like dog houses.

Does it end? Just sit. I don't know what they wanted us to do with them. But that's what we had. And we were in the box.

We were in the box. We were in the box. And we would just wait. Why were we there for so long? That movie took so long.

It did. And also, I can remember, because everybody on the moon, John, like, was on the moon. There were a lot of very talented people on the movie. John Cena. And I can remember.

And when you're smart enough to be working for a long time, there's definitely a feeling when you walk in and go, something like, OK, we're going to be shooting at a sinkhole for two weeks, where you start to angle. Like, do you think my character is here? It needs to be here. I wonder if she's already left the party. You are the sister.

You are our sister. And you're like, I've got to leave. She's left the party. I feel like she's gone. And there was a couple of moments where, like, the camera was shooting this way.

And whoever was in the background was like, oh my god. Samantha Bee was in the background. I was like, I'm going to be in the background of this shot for the next two weeks. Oh, what's the point? So I apologize.

Thank you. Thank you. I came here to accept this apology. Now I have it. But it's so nice, though, thinking about, I feel like that doesn't happen anymore.

I know. I mean, I would say yes to that anymore. It's only like what? You actually can't. I'm going to be like, no, that's, we have fought.

Are you going to say, if you could do that anymore? Are you going to fight against the wooden boxes? No, but I remember that time when we got to improvise together. And I feel like that scene that we got to do together is really funny. But I'm curious if you think it's still hold up.

Yeah, it does. Yeah, it does. I think it does too. Why? Because it's tricky territory.

So there's a scene in the film where Greta's character is playing like, what you first think is like this kind of submissive, quiet, but secretly angry. Nail technician. Nail technician, who you think cannot speak English very well and is just kind of like dealing with these ridiculous women. And my character is doing that like gross kind of liberal thing where she's trying to connect like, tell me about you. And how do you pronounce your name?

And I'll say, let me save you. Yeah, exactly. Very white savior, bullshit. And we are doing it back and forth. But it does walk a little bit of a line.

And it is the bigger question for me about like, in your career, I'm sure you've had to decide over and over again. Do I want to play a character that could seem stereotypical? Do I want to do I want to speak Korean in this part? Do I want to like, what has that been like for you to have to try to figure that out? Everybody has to kind of figure out how they're going to exploit what they naturally know how to do at the beginning of their career, but it's not always based on their ethnicity.

So like, how do you juggle that or manage that or have you? Well, it's annoying. Yeah, it's annoying to navigate. But with that, that was an easy decision for me. Because, and I understand the conversation around it and what was tricky to navigate.

But it's just, it's people. Like I have so much love for Taiwan because like, I know that chick. I know her. I know her so deep. And some of my funniest experiences at Nail Salond, I was more, you know, it was switched.

And I think that scene also works because, you know, status is inverted. And I think that it's easy to assume. And I think it's easy to assume if you are not in a marginalized position to assume like, oh, no, like this is, this is hurtful or this is. But I think when you're looking at people, and for me in that moment, she is in total control. Yeah, it's so funny.

Totally. And I've been in that situation at the last one. That's the thing about comedy. It's tricky, right? It's like, if it's funny, then there's something that's striking the right chord, but you can't always figure out what it is.

And it's not funny unless it's true. And there's something about that that was very true. And I felt like what we were doing and what the opportunity was was a chance to play something that rang very true for me. And I could see I knew it was going to be funny. I knew she was going to be funny.

And there were many opportunities for her to come alive and like, yeah, be a person. Yeah. Yeah. And then you play someone completely different in Russian doll. You play this like beautiful kind of like sweet birthday baby.

Let's get ready to party. Like the version of like who you want to have greet you at the door, like the ultimate hostess. And also just this kind of like lost but free spirit, like so aspirational that this woman, what was your experience like a Russian doll? What does it like to say a lie over and over again? And like for that line to become so iconic.

And like it's also to be on a show that was such a hit. Yeah. How wild was that? I mean, well, you know that first I said no. Yeah.

I was like, there's no way. I was I just felt like I don't know how to do this. I don't know how to do it. I remember why you said no. I was like, I don't know how to say the same line again and again.

Yeah. I asked you. I said, can we just shoot it once and you can reuse that. Right. And you said no.

Right. So for people who know, I produced Russia doll along with Natasha and was like, handling and we were and we were talking about Greta's character specifically being like this reset. You are the reset. You're kind of home for that character. You really are a safe person.

You play us even though you play this twinkly, sparkly, like adventure, crazy lady. You are safe. Yes. And they're with the chicken. And it's like, yeah.

So you have to do the same line over and over again. Because they show they start over and over again. And it's kind of like Natasha's character has to reset. So how did what was it like to do it? Was it like, did you get into it?

Well, I said the line. I think that way once. And then I realized that was the way I had to say it every single time. And I can't say it felt like I had landed like the perfect way I wanted to say it. It was already die like I put stuff.

That's the one. OK. Great. Move on. Let's get on.

Let's get to the drowning scene. Yep. OK. Get to the drowning scene. Running.

OK, moving on. Yeah. But you know that I love acting with Natasha. Yeah. My buddy, Tasha.

Yeah. I feel it feels different for me than other people that I've acted with. There's something there's something that happens when I act with her. And that was true for Russian doll too. Because it's not I can't say that there I could lie and tell you that I came up with some like insane backstory and boarded like each time we went back.

But it wasn't it wasn't that. It was just about friendship. Yeah. And like it's just like a connection that you have with someone. And Natasha over the years, I just like she's just one of those people that I had like a very instant connection with.

Yeah. And you just look into those huge fucking eyes. And you are just so locked in. And it's just it's so nice. Yeah.

It's I think it's what anchored that show was the genuine chemistry between the two of you because you work together. You had such great respect for each other. You work so well together. And that show is about like who who is who are my chosen family? Who are the people that are going to be like at my birthday party saving me for myself?

Yeah. Who are they going to be? And you can't really fake that. And you definitely had that. Yeah.

OK. Now I'm moving on to drink. Is it weird that I'm drinking diet? Honestly? I'm not the first guest to have a soda.

And it is in a clear glass. It is. We probably forced you to do. Yeah. You know what?

I'm so tired. I'm just tired. No, is that a straight up Coke? Or is it a diet Coke? I mean, that's what was available.

Yes. I'm like, I'm not going to get any judgment here. Sometimes you need a soda, like a little soda. Yeah. Are you a coffee drinker?

Yeah. And why are you so tired? Too personal? No, I mean, what's going on with your sleep? Let's get to it.

God. I know right. Look, I was like, I don't want to talk about Perimenopause. Because it's like, I don't want to talk about Perimenopause. I'm like, you're frozen.

Which one is frozen? I'm not going to talk about it. I said to Jenna. Yeah. I was like, I'm not going to talk about it.

Because it makes me feel so old. And women out there suffering, you're not old. You're beautiful. But I'm an old, old, grown. I'm an old, crony witch who can't lift her.

I'm trailing behind you. And I'm left. Left. Left shoulder. Millennials are just getting old.

And I'm here to tell you, as Genex, first of all, welcome. Like we welcome you. Like, coming on the other side of it is not bad. It's actually kind of nice. It's not be young.

It's like considered young. It's kind of nice. But you have a frozen shoulder. But it's a nightmare for the body. It's a nightmare for the body.

Every day. The body. I know. It's happening. I know.

I actually drink soda. I am today. You know what I mean? Do you know the children? Yeah, your liver takes.

Let's try it. What is your sleep routine? What do you like to do? Like, how do you talk to me about your nighttime 19? My nighttime.

Well, when I'm home, right? And I'm too much travel. Yeah. Too much travel? What?

Oh, yeah. The travel. Oh, yeah. The travel. What were you doing in Korea?

It was a film festival. Well, speaking of Korea, thank you for that transition. Past lives. What? Gretta.

I believe I may have texted you. I think you did. I mean, that movie is spectacular. Your performance in it, everyone's performance in it. Celine is so beautifully directed.

Yeah. It's just like we were talking about it earlier today in anticipation of this and we were just talking about the meditative quality of it, the rhythm of it, like the music of it. It's like everyone is watching and being watched at different times. It's this beautiful triangle. The actors are so great.

You are so good in it. It's so wonderful. It's so wonderful. It's such a good movie. It's so good.

It feels so good. It feels good to be in a good movie. It feels really good. It feels really good. You want it all the time.

I know what you want. I know your performance in it is so beautiful. All the awards. I know the awards season is long over. That's been made.

Did you win? I don't even know. Did you win? No. I should have won.

What? Yeah. But you know no one even knows that. No one knows. 100%.

No one would have said anything. I wouldn't have corrected you. No. No. That's bullshit.

Of course. What does Celine like to work with? It was her first movie. I think it was her first time. It was her first time.

It was her first time. It was just a collaboration city there. It was its own thing. I'm never going to have anything like that. I felt like we're making something that is going to be something.

You did. You felt it the time. You could feel that. It felt extremely collaborative. She had a lot of theatre.

It was so personal. Everyone was taking such a big risk too. I had no idea if I was going to be able to act in Korean. I had never been the number one in a movie on the call sheet ever before. I had never done drama in that way.

I hadn't done realism. You'll understand this. I realized this instinct that I needed to turn off where I would improvise my face off. I needed to stop doing that. I would fill the silence jokes.

Imagine past lies with like, what's that? I'm like, oh, what's that? What's that? I'm like, what's that? I'm like, what's that?

She'd be like, she'd be like, stop. Stop that. I'm like, what? Wait, there's all this such an immature response. I'm like, what?

I'm not doing anything. The whole idea that the camera was going to stay on my face with nothing happening. I could not handle it. I would be like, cut. Cut.

Cut. We got it. I'm like, what? You know what? Don't look at that.

Go. You're looking at the window. Yes. We're so long. Yes.

Thank you for sharing that because I so relate. My hardest thing to just be kind of like still in the moment. Like you said, sit in the kind of like in between us all. And that film does that beautifully. That dream equality of the in betweenness of everything, whatever you had to adjust.

You adjusted perfectly because it is so. I recommend to anybody who has not watched past lives. I mean, it's my favorite kind of like, melancholy, nostalgic, like kind of happy, sad, love dream. And yes, it was a side of you that, of course, I knew that you have, but I don't think a lot of people, I got to see which is to your point, the kind of like space given to you and to give into the project was really amazing. I think like at one point, I counted how many seconds was the longest number of seconds that I've been in one take.

Like literally for the frame to stay on my face for longer than I think it was like a couple of minutes, which was really wild. Well, you know what, it leads me to the question that I like and I want to form the right question because it's the idea of being looked at and watched in general, even though we're in this profession and you would think we would become the winner. And yet, what are we doing? What are we doing? You are fashion, like you are a fashion icon Greta.

You're basically a model. You're so, you are the best clothes in the world. You're incredibly posing. Thanks. And there's something that comes over you.

Were you like acting? It's acting. It's like character acting. Yeah. I think when ever since I was really little, I just wanted to be a male character actor.

Like I wanted to be one of the guys. And I think that posing on a red carpet is not it. I could go post it like, you know, De Niro or like, but okay, I'm gonna make a connection to De Niro. Is when I see you being, like when we're all watching you on, I'm just talking about like fashion carpet stuff because it takes a certain like, you have to kind of withstand the gaze, the male gaze usually, but just the general gaze that you have this very solid foundation in that moment that is very De Niro-esque. Which is, it's very baller.

Like you have a very like confident vibe. And you know, you have great style and you know what you like to wear. I do. Where is that comfy? I have great people working with me.

Well, so you're fucking Calvin Klein out. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God, running. But you know, in that running, what the abs do?

The abs, oh God. I mean, I don't wanna objectify you, but you, what? What is going on with your body? And I'm just like, you're so weird. I was actually rude.

I was actually rude for people. OK. Toy Story Fox. Toy Story Fox. Calvin Klein.

The Toy Story Fox. OK, Pixar. Is this your first time working with Pixar? Yeah. Can you talk about the character you are?

Can you talk about it? I play the villain, the main new villain. Oh my God, exciting. I play an iPad. I play her name is Lily Pad.

Oh, she's an iPad. Oh, wow. It was just fun. And the movie, the movie's so good. Oh, I bet.

It's really Joan Cusack. Oh my God. Joan Cusack. I love her so much. What Joan does is just, I mean, oh my gosh.

I think I cried six times during a screening. It was really embarrassing. Like with her and Tim. And I was just crying. Oh God, I love a Pixar crying.

There's nothing like it. This is such a good. I think if you like past lives, you are gonna love Toy Story 5. I'm serious. That's an incredible tagline.

I'm serious. I'm serious. It's really good. It's really sad. I think I might be trying to put together what you're saying, but that sounds amazing.

Yeah. Speaking of Joan and things, people that we love and people make us laugh, I always ask my guests, who are you listening to? What are you watching? One video, TV show, movie, what are you reading? Anything that you're doing right now to like laugh and enjoy.

So like, high-low does not have to be fancy. Yeah. Okay. So are you ready? My, something that I literally just started watching is my friend sending me these YouTube stain removal videos?

Okay. Let's talk with her. Okay. Yeah. So there's one guy.

I love saying removal. You love it too. Yeah. I like ink stain removal. Ink stain.

Ink stain. I mean, let's start with the toughest ones. Ink stain is the toughest one. Okay. Let's see.

Gentle, gentle man, gentlemen's gazettes. Okay. The right way to remove ink stains. Okay. To remove ink stains.

All right. So gentlemen's gazette. Greta's been watching the right way to remove ink stains. Here we go. Again, I have got to get my commercials off YouTube.

I think actually YouTube reached out and offered to think. And I was like, I don't, this just seems too hard. What do you mean? Like, what do you mean? I mean, I just seem too much.

Okay. Okay. So it's a nice gentleman named Preston. This is a stain removal emergency. Go to this time.

Just the artics. Isn't that nice? Everyone else enjoy our standard intro. Yeah. Oh, so he tells me if it's an emergency, skip the intro.

He's going to tell you the first thing you need to do is make sure you get it off your hands. I love this guy. All right. He's treating us like, like, we're idiots. But we're done.

If you've walked away to this video, then it's nice. It's really nice. And this is, this is a condensed video. Now Preston is pulling out a fountain pen, which, right. Oh, you don't use a fountain pen.

You've only signed your contracts in the past. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, I know we're finishing up. But are you gardening now?

Are you getting it? Thanks for asking. I am getting into it. I'm getting into it. Yeah.

What's going on? Well, right now I've planted some lettuces, like, easy, like lettuces. Is it hard? Let us just... Shit.

Let us just... It's so easy to really done. Take it out. Take it out. It's hard to flip it out because it's too hot for lettuce here.

Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Because it's not gardening here, honey. We're burning on the East Coast. You're here?

No way. Disgusting. You rip out the lettuce here. No, I'm doing it. Okay.

But it's still going to be hot. Yeah. You're right. It does burn, doesn't it? Yeah.

And it bolts. It flowers because it's too hot. And then it gets better. I like that we're ending with gardening because you love gardening. I find it very gratifying.

But now a lot of actors are doing it too. It's okay. I had to break it in. You're an actor. I am.

Yeah. We just found out. Academy award winning. I love you so much. I love you so much.

Thank you so much for doing this. Thanks for having me here. Thank you for my beautiful gifts and bounties. Enjoy it. And my gorgeous produce.

Yeah, you can't eat that avocado any time. I can't really speak with that. Thank you so much, Greta Lee. You are so funny and talented and beautiful. And it's just such a pleasure to get to talk to you.

And Greta has done so many things and worked with so many great people. And we talked a little bit about Joan Q's act today. So for this polar plunge, I just want to remind everybody, yet again, that is Joan Q's act. I mean, you know her from 16 candles from working girl from school of rock, high fidelity. Broadcast news.

Do yourself a favor. Open up a bottle of wine and watch broadcast news tonight. Albert Brooks, Holly Hunter, Joan Q's act. Just film and comedy at its best. So thank you, Joan.

Thank you, Greta. Thank you all for listening. And I'm see you soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang.

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