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EPISODE · Apr 29, 2026 · 36 MIN

Grief at Work with Sally Healey and Jessie Williams

from Under the Rug at Work · host Nicole Turnbull | Chief Courage Officer | Neon Shed

Grief at work is often avoided, rushed or handed off, but the way we respond can shape whether someone feels supported or alone.Welcome to Under the Rug at Work, where we shine light on the things that are normally swept under the rug. On this episode, our Founder and Chief Courage Officer, Nicole Turnbull, chats with Sally Healey and Jessie Williams, founders of Grief First Aid, about why workplaces fall flat on grief and what better support can look like.Sally and Jessie share how their own lived experience, research and workplace backgrounds led them to create an Australian-based model for grief support at work. They explain why grief is not something to fix, why it should not be automatically treated as a mental health condition and why workers often need trusted colleagues and leaders who know how to respond with care, choice and clear boundaries.In this episode, we explore:💠Why grief is so often swept under the rug at work💠What leaders can say and do when a worker is grieving💠Why silence, avoidance and “fixing” can cause harm💠How Grief First Aid helps workplaces build grief literacyThis episode is a powerful reminder that grief is part of life, and workplaces need the skills, processes and courage to respond with humanity.You can subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube, and share this episode with someone who’s ready to better support workers through grief.Connect with Sally & Jessie 👇Grief First AidLinkedIn, Jessie WilliamsLinkedIn, Sally HealeyLinkedIn, Grief First AidInstagram, Grief First Aid

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