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But yes, so we are joined by an extra special guest making her debut on not just the Nerdy Up North podcast, but on podcasts plural like full stop. So we have the if you if you follow her on Instagram or on the TikTok or the kids here, you'll have seen it a lot of amazing cosplayers, little bits, and quite funny, we have the amazing stuffy best. So hello, Seth. How are you?
Hi, I'm right. Thank you. So pre one, Steph, just because we didn't want to scare her and frego too much. Watching Nerdy credentials.
Tell us a little bit about yourself there. Well, I've always been a bit of a nerd. I think the first thing I've probably fell in love with was Lord of the Rings. Well, welcome, Steph.
Well, welcome. Maybe Chris now because I'm out. But also a game of thrones as well. Like my friend laughs that she's looked at a bit of law.
She's like, Steph, what's this? And then I will grab it on for about half an hour telling her everything. The love of the rings and the love of the thrones. I can see me and your movements.
Well, yes. Steph does a lot of horror content, a lot of horror videos. So we thought with a being the spooky season, with a being running up to Halloween, we'd ask her to come and join us because Steph helps out the Nerdy Up North community quite a bit. She writes reviews for the website and she's always supporting us like and sharing, which is always appreciated.
So we thought we would choose one of the more friendly movies. She'll see the nice and easy one to relax you into the Halloween scene. The ones we've done so far has been quite, I wouldn't say too bad, they've been quite easy quite friendly. Now we're going hardcore.
We're going with the original 1981 evil dead. So, Sammy, do you want to do your disclaimer? I do. So everything's discussed in today's episode.
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So, yes. So, when I mentioned Stephanie that we were doing this episode and if she wanted to join, I think our response was, fuck yeah, I want to do this. So, why were you so excited about by the evil dead and, Stephanie? I mean, what's not to like about evil dead really?
I mean, I'm trying to do a few things a little bit. I mean, like, actually, it's just such a good character as me. And I said, I'm going to put up at the council of the TV show. That's such a good show.
Ah, the show is good. I enjoyed the show. Yeah. I suppose the evil dead would be good.
Yes, you are getting a lot you're getting some love from Chris in the chat. You said you said the Lord of the Rings, Chris was like, oh, friend, friend, you. Oh, yes. Sammy, what are those taglines?
Cause I know that's what they say. Cause there's hopefully there'll be some interesting ones for this one. I'm trying to think what can go first. Okay.
Can they be stopped? Is that a good set? Right. Okay.
Scream as your nightmares come true. Okay. In a world. There.
Can't you dream next to the ultimate experience in grilling terror. It's okay. And the last one. Sorry.
And the last one, they got up on the wrong side of the grave. Oh, God. Actually, remember this was 1981. So yeah.
This is why I love movie taglines. They are, especially in the 80s. They are hilarious. They got up on the wrong side of the grave.
I don't know. That's an excuse for getting up in the morning. Come and come and get it. Yeah.
They've been shot in the chat now as well. But yeah. I don't know when your first experience with this movie is, but I can remember vividly as a child now. Because I know we're going to probably talk about it.
This was one of the video and assies. This was one of the films that was banned and you couldn't get a hold of, except if you knew someone very clever or you had an onion angle or had a bit of a dodgy collection. I remember not seeing the movie, but the fucking VHS cover being absolutely terrifying. From when you got videos of the time, like Halloween was quite simple.
The axis again, quite simple. This one was full vivid colors with a deadite. I think it was Cheryl on the front. Just basically looking at the thing and this kind of like ritualistic logo, the evil dead, I was like, what the fuck is that?
I've never been scared of a video cover. This was the one that freaked us out as a kid. What about you guys? What was your first experience with the book of the dead, shall we say?
Oh, I know, I know, I guess. Well, I was an adult, so I didn't really see how much I wasn't uni when I watched this. Yeah, my friend was like, this is a terrible movie. You won't like it.
And then I was just like, well, you want to do it. This is really good. Just messing up. Yeah, we don't speak anymore.
Half. Was it because of this? It's brilliant. I wonder what other things I haven't been on.
Do they just read about two instant movies? They're just nobody about two instant movies on that note. Well, they're called me, tiny champs. Just because he's not in the chat.
Sammy, what about you? Oh, mine was in that long ago. I dare say, in the laugh, I must have been in me. I had a big, I mean, 20s, but I actually thought you were dead too.
No, I'm not going to. Yeah. Sorry. It wasn't that long ago.
It needs to laugh quite that long. It's because he's a year older than us. We went to college together. You don't pull in that one.
I'll be a little bit. Evil Dead 2 was my staple horror movie. It was the one that I kind of, besides me, you know, me Handful of Favorites, that was the one that I absolutely adored. I always remember my dad scoring major cool dad points because he bought me it on DVD.
And I was like, oh, you get me. I love this. You get me. And then I watched Evil Dead not long after that.
But I always gravitated more towards Evil Dead 2. It wasn't until, because a few weeks ago, we did Evil Dead run through. And we were just going to start with two, because we were going to go to 3D, TV series, Evil Dead, The Remake, Written and Rise. And we like shit.
Can't remember the first one. Can't remember it at all. So we ended up having to go back and watch it. And honestly, it's an absolute little treasure.
It's an interesting one, because I know the certain drops, the certain fields that feels like an Evil Dead movie. But when you go through Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, I gave them the games and the TV show. This gave us such a amazing franchise. It doesn't quite have the same feel compared.
I think the closest to this one is The Remake's. Okay. There was a reason for that, because it was never intended to be anything other than this movie. It was only ever intended to be just Evil Dead.
It was a done on a shoestring money that came from Bruce Campbell, put in his parents' house up for Remorgage. And it was friends and family who financed this whole thing. And the conditions that these people worked in. This is friends and families' money.
This is friends and family crew as well. And they literally, the cabin that they got is a genuine cabin. The only thing that all is said was, whatever your brick, you put back to it, it has to look exactly the same way as you got it. And there was one thing that they left behind, and it was the fireplace.
So the fireplace wasn't initially there. It's something that they built. But yeah, they lived there. They lived in that cabin they filmed.
They lived. This is why. If you say this movie looks fun to do, it's not. It was anything but fun.
They fucking hated it. Bruce Campbell, how that man survived this movie, is ridiculous. He was punched in the face. He was stabbed quite a few times.
He nearly snapped his ankle off. He got hit in the face with a camera and lost teeth. But you know what? He still came in every single day.
Like nothing had happened the day before. To be fair, he wasn't working much. It all bruised him back in the day. So he was 21 years old when he did the Sam Raimi.
He was 21 such babies. He was a little fierce. And I'm watching it back to the day. Like because as Sami said, this has probably been a while since I've watched it.
Because depending on where you go, there is a few different versions of this movie as well. Because the original one was heavily cut. Then we got the uncut version when all the video and ass days were released from the present type. So when Mary White has died.
And there were certain things released again. It's interesting when you watch back. Because I got very much a lot of Friday the 13 vibes. Like the original Friday the 13 with what he called.
What's Raven? No, no. Friday the 13. Oh God.
Kevin. Kevin Beer. Yes. Sorry.
Why the... Honestly, it's because I see me like around on Street hoodie. Since then you had no ears. Yeah.
I got so many Friday the 13 vibes initially from like say the shots that we're using. Yeah. And all those famous Raimi like what he uses in all these different forms. Which is great.
Like little signature. But like the shots on like over the head. Showing the cars coming down. And even the cheesy car driving up the start when they're nearly pulled into a crash.
It's like, hey, we need a crash dude. And kicking off for each other. And so they like, oh, he saw your car around man. It's like, oh.
Oh, it's her reply. It's Bruce and her talk. And they're like, this could be fun. Uh huh.
This could be a really good weekend. Yeah. The dialogue is just fantastic. The Raimi shots though, they are really interesting.
Because the first one's done on a boat. Right. With Raimi just hanging off the back of the boat. There's one where he's on the back.
He's on Bruce's shoulders. And just running. The last one where Bruce just get hit in the face of the camera. He really did.
And was him on a bike. Right. And Raimi on a bike with a camera here. And just went for it.
And they made a clear pass. So he went right through the house. But he literally, Bruce just said, just don't stop and didn't. And the camera just went like that.
And got him right in the face. So that reaction that you get is Bruce getting hit in the face for reals. He really got hurt in this movie. How the convince to come back for more is beyond me.
So he said, that's how well for him though. Yeah. Oh, 100%. You can't imagine a world where Bruce Campbell as Ashwalee Williams doesn't exist.
Oh. And it's a great starting point for him as well. Because he's not the comedic hero in this one. He is playing it straight last.
And it's almost like Ashlight, if that makes sense. He's kind of like the reluctant hero where he's like, what the fuck's going on? Like all the chaos and everything go around. This movie though, just because everyone will talk about like the remake being quite brutal.
I think this is fast, like the brutality and the violence in this movie outshuns as well. Just the simple ones, like the pencil in the angle. Like I remember watching after the first time as a kid, freaking out. Watching it now, you can see the tricks, but still I win some.
It's like, oh, it's not a pleasant experience to watch that bit. I think I think the ankles make sure you got that. It doesn't fall on that last week. You don't do it.
And yeah, giving a lot of brain dead vibes. It's the mushiness. It's the gooeyness. It's the unrealistic body fluids that I still love this.
And the stop motion that they use to the decay and it's hot. It really is hot. It was fantastic when I re-watched. I was like, Jesus Christ.
That's some different techniques for moving making. I know the 80s took a lot of risks. And I'm starting to appreciate that more with the more 80s horror that I'm watching. But Jesus, that's a fun risk that.
I think it was more budget as well. I think the bassie used what the hard to the best of the most. But when I was talking about the violence as well, like the stabbing with that angle, it's not just a stab. It's a stab, it's a twist, it's a bend, it's a move.
It's that type of motion that freaks you out as well. And when the attacks happen as well, it's not just like a simple slap or a punch. It's like a thord, it's a scratch. And he's hitting them with the axe as well.
The noise is like the swelches. Everything that's made in this movie is to make your feel so uncomfortable and it's done well. Do you know where half the stabbing noise is coming from? When it was an ash, it's being stabbed.
I was like, this last night. Dead chickens. Dead chickens, right? It's where half the stabbing in the stab and then the comes from.
So the wetness, was it like KFC or was it like a supermarket chicken? You could just eat dinner. Yeah. That's what the day done at night time because they were all living there on a budget.
And they were like, right, we're going to slash and dice these chickens and then we're going to have to have them for today. I'm going to jump and I generally don't know that. It's like an under latest evil dead where like the woman bites someone's eyeball out and the fact that's actually Bruce Campbell just biting an apple. That's what that sounds like.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love stuff like that though. And you mentioned the fact it was a video on Aztey.
Yes. So yeah, Mary Whitehouse, everyone's favorite Karen, decided to take this one and it was what it was actually one of the first to be added to the video on Aztey list. So we didn't get to see for a long time. But I don't know if anyone else knows is that some of me was actually taking a court over this in the UK.
Right. Yeah. I don't know. I couldn't find much more on the actual case itself, but he got dragged through the courts because of this movie over in the UK.
We were bastard back then. Honestly, she was a fucking nightmare. Yeah. Um, but yeah, yeah.
But interestingly, if we don't have a certain master of horror being given this movie after it was edited, we may not have potentially had this movie at all because nobody would touch it. Right. We couldn't get the production team together to be able to get it released until Stephen King was given it. Right.
And he's to King. Give it a second. Yeah. Exactly.
And even King God is given in the glory and endorsement. And that's when L like the role friends of Raymond's from like growing up and who've obviously gone on to. There was a big name. I can't remember who it was.
And who went into help with editing to make sure that this was name on perfect. This was this was what he had in mind. So there's a lot of influence in that. It's interesting.
You're saying that King gave this girl a blower and door. Because I'm going to be honest, I didn't love the end into this. When it comes to because with the movie, there's a lot of like memorable scenes. There's a lot of things that you can hop back on and watch and go like, be like a shocked or a me as door blown away.
And some of the like the visuals is unbelievable. The end and I watched this one. I saw it kind of didn't do anything. I can't even really remember it too well.
That thing. No, the dead eye. He wins. That's it.
That's but that's not the original ending. Yeah. So the original ending was I should I'd nobody survived. Right.
And but the studio like, can we could we potentially have something here at the time? Like it was really exciting for them. And I've just found that information. So the sort of distribution rights to the new line cinema for an incredibly low price.
What I've been hearing, especially with the Williams brothers, this is not something out of the ordinary for people who don't know what they're doing, especially when it comes down to what they want. And so they sold it for an incredibly low price because they felt there was no need for any sequel. Some remie had no intention of doing anything further with this. And it later changed when they returned to make evil dead two, which they claimed was possible because of the n***.
They had neglected to sell the rights to the storyline and the characters. So that's how they got away with it. However, they prevented them from using the footage from the first movie. That's how new line kind of do their heels in.
And that's why you get the repurposed version of it in evil dead two. Right. Because people got to pretty much is just a remake just in its own different way. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So Stephanie being the guest once stands out for you in this movie the most, like what kind of things like blew you away the like out of it. Wasn't that it meant to be before?
Like just the violence of it, like it doesn't shy away from it. Like any of the violence and for being such like a shoestring budget on it. Like all the effects look like really, really well. Yeah.
Despite the fact that it is quite low budget. It's really, really real as well. Yeah. The guns that are used were all loaded.
Yeah. The chainsaw that if you look clear, if you look carefully, you can actually see the terror in the woman's neck. Her pulse is raised in her neck. It's like absolutely, you can see the pulse in her neck because she's that scared.
That's a real chainsaw. That's really being sent off. Yeah. Everything was so real, the sword, the dagger, the realers book, and the actresses who had the contact lenses in.
It was actually cement. Cement. It was a party cement because they couldn't do. The contact lenses were so uncomfortable in sort of unrealistic.
But the ended up placing cement in their eyes. She can't act when she goes for them. She's getting them with it. She can't actually see them.
She's got her. If you know what, she's got her eyes closed because she's in so much fucking pain. So yeah, it was this movie is so real. So the violence that you're seeing and you're really enjoying is all real.
And the contact lenses, they couldn't educate them in for like 15 minutes, because they were just so painful and they just couldn't see it. She's got her eyes closed when she's attacking them. She's actually got her eyes closed. She can't see a thing.
But yeah, they had to put a level of cement in them. It's like because Lon Chaney, when he did the fun with the opera, he used to add things into his lenses to make them a bit more comfortable, which is why he had the fish gelatin over the top of them. Yes, it sounds disgusting, but he would do anything to try and because the contact lenses that they use and not like what you would get to do, where it could simply just fit over the iris. They would get ones that literally cap their eyes.
Yeah. The things you do for the art, like... Honestly, it's Bruce Campbell. He is an absolute hero in this movie.
Gunify, you're going off an earum. The real bullet. I saw a thing that's some reime apparently says like, oh yeah, if you don't like hurt or scare your actors a little bit, then you're like not doing your job properly. It sounds like he terrified.
No one to talk to me when he wouldn't do any more Spider-Man's. And the most iconic, I think most, not iconic, but most controversial scene in the movie is definitely the tracing. Yeah, that one wasn't back. That didn't come back into the 90s again.
No. No. That was removed. Yeah, that was removed.
Now, we see it as how we see it. It's not how it was written. Right. So this is really weird.
It's quite delicate now. I'm trying to use my words carefully for shocking content reasons. Yeah, really, really wrote it as in he was trying to depict that the forest was taken over as well. Yeah.
And the trees were part of that. It wasn't until when it got put back in, he realized, ah shit. Maybe I've went a bit too far, because his intention wasn't it. It wasn't a great scene.
That wasn't his intention at all. It was just an attack scene of nature, basically. And he regrets it. He says, I never want to go out with me, wait to hurt anyone or to offend anyone in that manner.
So in hindsight, I really wish I made a different choice. Or it was, it was filmed a completely different way. I think with me being, like, I know it's a different perspective for me, from you looking at it, and what it is, the play these I can. And the thing that makes it a lot more uncomfortable for me, it's not the physical arc that happens.
It's the mourns that happens a little bit afterwards. Yeah. That was kind of like, again, it lingered a lid. It wasn't kind of like, hill-the-eyes remake uncomfortable.
But it was to the point where I was kind of like, do the need that part? Just the whole attack and just being violated, which I totally get. But having a few mourns in there, I was like, oh, that's 10 metre up there, so I don't want to be at this moment. Yeah, we try to count that with Linda trying to grip Ash at the end and think that it'll balance it out.
I thought it was a weird thought. I think he was trying to depict something and he didn't know how to do it. I don't think he knew how to do it in the way that he wanted it. I think he had such a different idea and it didn't go that way or that.
Oh, it sounds like a big mess. And I don't think it was ever intentional to offend anyone with it. No, it's not like, what was that movie? The Straw Dogs.
Work up on it because it's short of saying similar. Like, it went very left failed and I think it was the Dustin Hoffman one. But this, yeah, I can understand why it was taken out. I think a few seconds or a few more edits, it would have been a more impactful scene rather than becoming more uncomfortable.
If you take the moments after that and seeing how distressed and how upset Linda is, just like, I want to get out of the f*** out of dodge. I want to get out of here. I don't want to be here. And people are saying calm down, we'll go in the morning.
She's like, no, I want to go there. That made sense because of that scene, how she just like, fuck no, I am done. I got that. I said, give it a little bit more urgency and then not being able to escape.
It becomes like so much more. And yeah, it's difficult. It's hard. It's hard when I have a conversation about it.
It's a hard one to stay like, trying justify because, does it add to the film? The first part, yes, because it's like, it's taking out all the rights, it's violating it and we as that normal should ever be violated. But then it's like certain aspects of like, oh, it can be seen as uncomfortable. But what you have to think is this film went out to do everything to make you feel uncomfortable at the same time.
Like, it's not a similar type of score, but like the drawn scene when I think it's Cheryl sitting there drawn, like the clock, then suddenly start ripping into it with a pencil and stuff. For some reason as well, I found that quite distressing and giving me loads of anxiety when I was watching this. This is the build up to us. Yeah, this is just like, see the build.
And then like, as Stephanie said, the violence that came, like literally every aspect takes it to the high degree. Like one of the fight scenes, one of the women gets pushed over instead of just pulling push over, head goes in the fire and they say the skin pale and off it. So it's like, everything is done. Why am I biting that funny?
It's showing in such graphic detail as well. It's not just hiding it. Like, it's not going like, a text-a-chinsaw masque style where it's here. We're going to show these things.
And then everything that's happening is behind closed doors. You hear the screams. This is like front and center. You're seeing every little aspect, every single horrific thing.
And even when the fight, I think it was, I'm maybe, I could be wrong because by the point when all the women are like, that's the best. All the different people are kind of like mashing into one. And the fight scene. You can't tell who's who?
Don't I why? He's saying I get all confused. Yeah, I get all confused. Yeah, I get all confused.
But then they start chopping over in the axe and you think, all right, then they're going to bury you. and you think, okay, they're just going to say the body parts and the body parts are sitting there wiggling away. They just twitching, twitching, twitching. Yeah, that fucking necklace or God sent that necklace.
Yeah, that's the strongest necklace as well. Like, I mean, just like wrap the book and pull it out. And I was like, how did you do that? Well, I'm just, I feel like the bootcrub the necklace.
I don't know why. It's like, it's misery. It's like, just colors now. Oh, yeah.
Oh, it was, do you know what, for a movie that when you, when you bring, especially me having read about it all the day, is it had that had no intention of doing anything else with it. What a, what a way to leave you with all this different like mythology and, you know, storytelling. And we're just going to leave it at that. Yeah.
That's mind-blowing. Because there was a lot of thought went into that, you know, the dead-ites, their personalities, the fact that, you know, they can, they can chop and change back to normal and really, really mess with your head. Like, when it comes down to supernatural beings, they are the worst. Yeah.
They're one of my favorite ones. Because they're just so messed up and they'll just do anything. Oh, I'm not thinking of the table. Yeah, nothing is, exactly, nothing is off the tail.
I love that. So I didn't mention about dead-ites. I want to probably ask the controversial question now that probably is going to ask about these type of movies at all times. Are dead-ites zombies?
So is this a zombie movie or are they a different being to zombies? I don't think there's zombies. I think they exist. Demons.
Yeah, I should both look like demons. Yeah, possession. The biggest question though is Jason a zombie. No, it's Jason a dead-ite.
Yeah, yeah. That's the biggest question. Didn't the confirm that I was in the same universe at some point as well? It's in Jason 4?
Jason 4? What? What? The next one was mentioned or what was it?
But it's Zapton back to life and... Yeah. He's not like he rocks as well as Nick, because he's a dead-ite. He's not, though.
Yeah. Jason is not. Jason's just... Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I was pondering that for a little bit and I was like, no, no, he's not. Even though the director who did the movie is like, he is. Yeah. He's going to die on that hill.
He is. I wouldn't ask the chapters. Anyone else think that Jason is a dead-ite? Um...
So probably we mentioned possession, but we didn't actually mention... Two other possession episodes. We did. Did we mention death-ites?
Oh, actually, I only went into great deal about them. I didn't even laugh. I can't see anything I've used with the werewolves. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. So my good friend Jean, who I know will be listening because as soon as it becomes available, she listens to every episode now. And she messaged me and said no. It's not.
And also that she agreed with your dad. She will just send me messages going. Are you agreeing with Paul's dad? Misery is not a horror.
Werewolves are not possessed. No. I love you, Jean. Thank you so much for listening.
But you're wrong about Misery. Sorry. Um... No.
But no. Yeah, it's an interesting concept because with this, as you said, there is a quite good law and there is quite an interesting way to go there. Um, are you okay? That's something?
Something you're there? Yeah, I'm sorry. Just went off. Oh, right.
I thought you lost it. Can I see this? Yeah, I'm sorry. I was just...
Because it normally it's on, but then the volume goes off. But this time it was like gone. Oh, and you remember when I said it could be a beeping? Right.
It was behind phones. Right, so you're blaming me. But yeah. Yeah, it was behind phones.
I just remembered that there. Sorry. What were you saying? No.
Saying about the law and having that this kind of builds. I have. I'm trusting that you're walking in from it as well. Because we've had so many different incarnations from this.
Have you? And all of the stuff you mentioned the TV show, Ash vs. Evil Dead, which is to me feels like a more complete or just like a send off from the original Evil Dead movie. Then we got Army of Darkness, which is...
Oh, wait. I would just class it as the other than the D movie. Um... Evil Dead Rise.
So did I seem to have a place in or that people are coming for? Because there is a new one coming out as well called Evil Dead Burns. Evil Dead Burn. Yeah.
Same thing. Don't make it the other day, didn't they? Yes. Did you watch the little thing?
Because of being doing like the releases like we started production and then we ended production and they did it with a scene that you can clearly see is being like done from a camera and it was a thud and sound and then the screen just went black and it just kept going and going and going and going. It went for about five minutes. It's just thought I could for all my ears were on edge. I couldn't not stop listening to it.
Um, Evil Dead Rise is in my, uh, Deathly in my top 10 movies of, um, honestly you could put majority of Evil Dead in there, but I adored that movie and what they did with it. It was so good. Oh, absolutely fantastic. The fact that they can make me think, oh, do I like that?
I like that. I'm not your trash, do I? I'm not your trash, do I? It's like a movie therapy?
Yeah. I mean, I do, but that would just be added into the list. I've all been there. And one of the characters I wanted to talk about as well, and it's quite interesting because when I thought about the Evil Dead movies, I've completely forgot this character was even in the movie.
Um, the guy that like Scott, um, I don't know why, he just like, he is a complete Bel-End as well. But when I've tried to remember this movie in the past, I've always remembered like Ash, I've remember Cheryl and Ninda, but I was like, like, what's the other thing? I was like, who the fuck's this guy? I wasn't even when I watched it earlier.
I mean, Scott shows about who abandoned everyone, where he's like, I don't care about her. Like, wow, Scott. He's that person, no, isn't he? He's this one in every little group.
There's that little ticket and he is it. He reminds it to be, you know, you said at the beginning, it reminded you of certain films. I get a lot of text, Jensal, the ride up, in Texas, Jensal, and he for some reason would fit perfectly with that group in Texas. Yeah, he's just a twat.
I just want to punch his face in. And the fact that he dies, probably the most pathetic death in this movie, he says, everything unique, nor about that person. He dies. Everyone else has like, he's taken out in the glory and whatnot, no, he just dies.
He just dies away there. Yeah, it was quite interesting, because as I said, I completely forgot he was in there as well. So I do feel a bit sorry for him in this movie, because as you said, he is a complete Bel-End, and he doesn't really get any type of glory, anything like that as well. Or he doesn't.
I think it's Cheryl, he chops up. Oh, is that Linda? Again, I'm not going to get them right. He chops up on the deck.
Linda's the girlfriend, Sharls is sister, is Ash's sister. She's the one who gets swapped out with Ted Raimi in the basement. Yeah, that's pretty bad. Yeah, Linda's the one with the big smiley face and the really shit contact lenses.
But the basement scenes, them are some of the scariest scenes in this movie as well. Just like how did the player against Ash as well, when she's walking around. And all you hear is, Ashie, you're going to die. And she's like, you pick shit up.
I would use much stronger language if someone was doing that to me. Oh, no, I was sorry. I'm just trying to, I don't know if there's anyone in the chat. I don't know if there's anyone in the chat.
You need to keep talking. I'm going to think that my headphones are gone again. That's when you look at the little points. But yeah, I haven't got any more.
Are you talking about the basement scene? Oh, yes, it was there. Visually, it's spectacular. Yeah.
It is spectacular. And I love the fact that they do taunt him. I think that's what I love about these dead eyes. And this is why I probably love the Evil Dead Rise one, because she does quite something very similar, where she goes in and out of kindness to insanity, into just being cut down cruel.
They probably set the bar for how she did her performance in Evil Dead Rise. Yeah. Oh, no, you get the looks and the feel. I think the best the dead-eyed's on her from going forward.
Like that was kind of like the bar and that's it. And even in the arena, they kind of try to recapture the look when she's peering through the little trap door, which again, in this movie, how we get to see the trap door. Normally, it's done quite smoothly. This was done from hilarious.
Like even half was like, this is worse than Scooby-Doo at this point. When they're just talking away and you're seeing the background, the little thing just popping and a little bit of a spooky music starts playing. It's like, oh, what'd you fuck go down there after that open door? I know, it's like, if I flew open, I would not be going anywhere near it and I'd go down there.
It's like, no. The minute we pull up at that house, I'm going home. Yeah. This is not the coming middle of the woods, no?
Fuck no. Yeah, the bridge on was collapsed on the way in. That should have been sign number one. Yeah.
Yeah, no, I would definitely go on. I love the fact that the cabin in the woods cabin is based directly off this one. That's a bit like a film. That's a bit like a film.
So many different films come from this as well. I mean, the other one is the kind of influential movies that was made, especially for the time and with everything that came from it. Yeah. It kind of sets the bar for that type of movie as well.
It does. The way that he shot it, the way that even his fast moving, which we would see now is just like, oh, it's just that's just what he does. But that wasn't being done at the time. The certain things that he could create for it.
What they did do at the premiere is clearly a big William Castle fan. Because William Castle, if you don't listen to monsters, was a director who liked to involve his audience and make movie experiences a thing. To be honest, without William Castle and the likes of William Castle and Alfred Hitchcock, you don't have movies the way that we do now. Because back in the day, you would have a movie being shown all day on repeat, on loop, and you could just jump in and out of it.
It was the likes of William Castle and Alfred Hitchcock, who created Star Times. You were in it this time. If you missed this time, you're not coming in until it starts again. When it shows again, and they would have kind of props and whatnot.
San Rami took a lot of inspiration from that. I think William Castle used to scare in his audience. He used to love having like three day stuff coming out at them. He even had a movie in three days as well.
He decided for his thing, he was going to do a blood dawn station. Okay. Yeah. To give back to the amount of blood that was lost in this movie.
Yeah. I like how thought is that as well, don't they sometimes? They do a drive where they're so moving. Yeah.
The screen is that blood dawn stations are actually give tickets to people who, free tickets are the movie if you were going to do an aid blood. And it was part of their way of giving back, especially the fake blood, which you, so I mentioned the fact that the cast and everyone lived in that cabin. Mm-hmm. One person didn't.
It was Bruce. Oh, it was Bruce giving special things. Yeah. No, he just went.
He went on. He went on every night because he was absolutely covered in gunk in what we were using for blood was sticky. Yeah. I was going to touch on that as well because in the eighties, they kind of experimented a lot with the looks and feel of blood.
The blood in this wasn't, I would, when I was classist, realistic looking, shall we say it? But it did have the it feel. It was probably the more itchy and you could tell it was gloopy. It was like almost like it was like, I know, like the mid-jokes and screen about like corn syrup and stuff.
This did actually look like it was made out of sweets and I guess. But not the way you want to. It's kind. No.
It just, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it just went. I'm going home. I'm not sitting around. I also saw that the cabin apparently didn't have any plumbing.
So like, no, how would you have gone that stuff off you? No. And to be honest, you know, he'd been hurt quite a few. Like they really thought when he's when he presented his angle that he was done because that was like the final straw.
And it wasn't, he went, he had such a love for this. I mean, him and Zamorami have known each other forever. Yeah. This was such a passion project.
Oh, 100%. This is something that I think this is something that Rami had planned since school and stuff that he started thinking about how he was like, we're going to make this movie and what he wanted to be in it. That's why he's always like, had it in even like Bruce old and high regards as well. Well, I'm just saying as well.
He still finds other franchise now. Yeah. I've just seen as well. What did you think the budget was for this movie?
So we're talking about it first. So yeah, 379. Sorry, I knew that. My apologies, everyone.
No, the gross what I'd brought in 29 million or a third time is like. I don't know conversion wise. I didn't look at that. Me and Matt's not friends.