GROUND LEVEL - This is not a pipe!

In this mini episode we discus the idea of a tragic illusion. As a disclaimer, this show is in the interest of learning right alongside the listener! C.P. and Matt do not claim to be experts in the field; they are only endlessly curious! A massive thank you or collaborators! I Fight Dragons for the use of their song "A New Brain" in our intro! Michael Wilber for their song "Sweat" in the background for our segment intros! Supergold - for their use of the song "Antichrist" as our outro music! All Things Rise And Mind -- ⁠https://linktr.ee/riseandmindpodcast⁠