Guests - Ava Chen, Dave Smith, Gilda Carle

Guests - Ava Chen, Dave Smith, Gilda Carle Wednesday on Winn Tucson moved across three very different worlds — the geopolitical chessboard between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party, the fiscal ambush playing out in a Pima County meeting room, and the collapse of personal character among the men who purport to lead the nation. Three guests. One through-line: the cost of not paying attention until it's almost too late.