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Aug 5, 2026 1 hr 32 min

Guests - Ava Chen, Robert Paylor

from Winn Tucson Hosted by Kathleen Winn

Guests - Ava Chen, Robert Paylor Wednesday's broadcast split cleanly in two. The first hour was China Watch Wednesday, where co-host Ava Chen used a fresh New York Times report on Chinese surveillance to argue that what the mainstream press is discovering now, the whistleblower movement she belongs to documented a decade ago. The second hour set politics aside entirely for a former national-champion rugby player who broke his neck, was told he would never move his hands again, and walked out of the hospital a year later. The bridge between them was a theme Kathleen Winn returns to often: that character is revealed in the moments when everything is on the line.

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