Guests - Daniel Butierez, Lisa Von Geldern

Guests - Daniel Butierez, Lisa Von Geldern A week past the primary, the general election came into focus around a single dynamic: two parties both trying to hold themselves together. Kathleen Winn spent Tuesday's broadcast on the Republican side of that problem and the Democratic side of it — first with a congressional challenger absorbing an early attack from his opponent without swinging back, then with a wide-ranging conversation about the COVID reckoning set to unfold the next day on Capitol Hill. Underneath both ran the argument Winn returns to every show: that turnout, not affection, decides everything, and that a party which purges its own hands seats to the other side.