Guests - Lisa Von Geldern, Harry Haury, Betsy Smith

from Winn Tucson · host Kathleen Winn

Guests - Lisa Von Geldern, Harry Haury, Betsy Smith On December 1, 2025, Kathleen Winn opened her radio program *Winn Tucson* on 1030 The Voice with a bombshell: the just-released Arizona Election Validity Scorecard from Unite for Freedom (unite4freedom.com) shows the state’s 2024 general election was neither lawful nor valid under federal or state law. Guests Harry Haury (co-founder and chairman of Unite for Freedom), Lisa Von Geldern (John Birch Society and Unite for Freedom volunteer), and later Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith (National Police Association) laid out the evidence in exhaustive detail.

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