Gymnastics Ultimate Floor Line-Ups

and welcome to another episode of gymnastic bill we in the first next y'all and this is ultimate lineups that's right this is the floor edition all right we're gonna start off the intros live from Orlando Florida the moderator today carry Adderley what's up hey what's up man how you doing midnight let's go gville the bait man's heating up let's go all right and in from down nanda the city that we call Melbourne Australia the second moderator for today's ultimate lineups talking up doula simmons how you doing doing good down under here all right and we have the infamous movie director the man the myth the legend how sanny johnson how you doing i am doing great i feel like we should do it like kean peels now like i should sell my university son of johnson florix or size all right sanny this and that was that was the nicest i'm gonna beat today because you're my manager so listen i am i have not won one of these debates but i don't mind when i first win against you my man you know i'm saying all right all right i'm ready all right care you're up you're the moderator let's do it all right okay this is the floor exercise ultimate top lineups gville 2020 you know we are gonna be talking about some of the most either extreme or technical floor exercise guides in the world and we're about to see who's got the best lineup here in this ultimate top lineups with me and me and me and you know so you know just before we start i just want to give a shout out to uh our other moderator because prior to he was amazing on floor tuck it was a certain this guy was just amazing so i just want to give a shout out i remember when you were younger as a young puk tumbling with those fresh legs it was amazing oh man you know fresh legs what was that like right what was that like yeah that's nice man oh we're half fresh leg man it was good you know before i had my e-thirds oh like i was so much fun you know i took a good time and in my in my basic tumbling i used to end with a double lap it was like everyone's doing around catch my lap stick i'm doing double lap six so it was nice it was nice and then you know by the time so just yeah you know that just those goes to show you some of this ability and the pure ability and tumblers that we're about to talk about so stop further ado we don't get into round one ding ding ding here we go let's go that's not even who is your first you can call this your leadoff man is necessarily have to be in a particular order well hold on a minute we're going too fast we're going too fast okay well we're about to get right into it we want to know what you do okay question so i don't know i was confused when picking and i can't pick my first guy because the rollout skills have been ruled out and i don't know who would be champion if today's guys were allowed to bypass all of their landing deductions by rolling out i think you have to okay so let's place it i think the rollout guys need to be involved because you understand the rollouts have only been out for about four years so the guys that are great now at some point they were rolling out so so i think they have the ability and then you have to almost you have to also put it into if we're also including in previous eras you have to also include that like if those guys had these floor exercises you know i mean these speech that just are like tumble tracks almost so we go we go across eras in this you know it isn't just about you know about you know i will take into account it changes equipment changes and how someone would be able to be amazing from like the 80s on this type of floor i'm going to take that into account when i'm doing my judgments of these guys on floor exercise so all eras all types of skills you know we're taking any of these are the best guys in the world we're going to anticipate that they could do a rollout of date needed to do a rollout we're also taking into account as well as they do account in fact that just like we say we're talking about the different eras but there's a lot of skills guys even from all eras there's skills guys that they could do that they never competed so we're taking that into account too that you know sometimes you might see old footage training footage of guys doing some amazing stuff so that all plays into the fact of how you know total abilities gymnastics because you don't get to you don't get to see those parts you don't get to see those great moments in practice a lot then i'm ready to do that so we're ready to go all right so we're about to do we're about to get into a round one or another time who's your first pick here top four ultimate lineup my first pick is um the current world champion Nikita Nagorni i think that guy is a beast he mounts with a triple back and the rest of his passes are fairly typical but there's a pass he's working on for this summer hopefully which is a uh i think i think i've seen him do a double twisting double front on floor you guys see that video yet yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like it's all together now man he's all there i've seen it i've seen it but but i am i think that is on a rock wall at the time i don't know for sure but i have seen it and it looks like it will be possible i think it could be i mean it's possible backward i'm thinking i always think about like if technique is perfect he should he should be able to generate the airtime to do that i don't know all right all right so he's going with Nikita first i think he got a strong pick man i mean to get the beast all right midnight all right man listen when you come out with when you come out with Nikita dude that changed my whole weapon charge i'm gonna flip my rotation right now okay because you got a heavy hitter like that i'm gonna have to go out with him right now first time up okay vitali sherbo i'm going with sherbo yo listen to make it out double double come on man like this guy i mean and i think even in his heyday 92 there was stuff that he could do that he didn't do because he didn't need to do it so vitali sherbo is my lead off when you lean off when you keep him and i got to get someone to combat that right there you know i'm saying yo it's a really good pick that was those it go ahead no that way you think about those things that's like damn man that's a new that's a new that's a new go to get an old ogee you know i you know like that's a you know vitali's it's vitali tonight you know you know i had to luxury being coached by vitali for a week when i was a junior rooston was my coach and he you know we had the option to bring him in Danny coach we wanted and we're sounding oh i'm bringing sherbo to coach for a week now all right and sherbo sherbo told me some stories man some stories but one of the stories he told me was like yeah we didn't compete the stuff that that we could actually do sherbo was telling you to leg and pipe when you were like 17 or blower yeah so i didn't know that yeah yeah you know sherbo was telling me some stuff so sherbo is one of those ultimate ultimate talented floor guys so that's a good one carrey what do you think yeah i'm looking i mean i have sherbo embedded in my brain you know as just as a child 96 or 92 everything he's uh 92 yeah nice that was time 92 96 he was nice too as well but 92 it was almost like the guy could do just pretty much anything he tried to do those guys didn't pick up that guy until warm-ups like i got a lot of meat for that good yeah yeah because there were that deep you know they were that good that deep over team which is amazing but for him to steal distance himself from some of those guys was i mean i don't know that's that was a good around man because i was looking at this kid talk about just powerful and just kind of yeah he's that new school and he's a boss man he's a boss i have that chance to see him in spain um and he did a triple warm-up and he even faced it bad ooh and he just and he walked he walked back to the corner like it's nothing and it doesn't triple and stick to the next one i'm like all right man my ankles would have been like done after one bad triple and then he just goes back and does another one stick i'm like all right all right boss man all right so yeah now that's the least that's the least statistically statistically different but man we're not gonna make it easy on y'all i mean it's not gonna make it easier you all right we got to get deeper in this lineup to really uh see where you guys have had that all right let me do this time let's switch it up let's get let's get me night to go first this time all right okay let's go let's go i think y'all gonna like my themes here okay clearly you're gonna know from this next guy you're gonna know what one of my favorite skill is and i'm gonna go with the american route okay um he is a world champion on floor and you got to go with paul hum wow you took one of my gosh hey you got me struggling all right now all right any reason you know anything to back that up just just going flat out putting out their power homo oh gee come well listen wasn't and here's here's the lineage right wasn't at some point didn't vatali train paul but it was a commercial about it or something back in the day right at some point for a little bit like a like a couple weeks okay that's really not that long but you know what but but someone has talented as paul though a couple weeks with someone like that with his talent i mean that's a whole another you know something something to be said when you're very talented if you have the right coaching how quickly you can learn skills i'm actually i'm actually shocked that these picks so far my pick wow you guys are going away different route all right okay all right that's on it what you got you got with your second pick uh what i got keep i want to keep i'm i'm playing this series right here hold on i got a mark who's gone vatali as sure voh it's gone all right so my next pick oh this is the you guys are um all right okay see i don't want to go with uh this is tough um okay so nikita this is tough because if i don't do it i know you guys are going to i know you guys are going to so i'm gonna i gotta go with kenzo i gotta go with kenzo so i was okay and okay now that was down to i knew that was gonna happen i was he had you know even in the beginning that first round i was still surprised nobody came out of the back and came just to get him out the way you know um but yes obviously you know too very strong pick i'm gonna uh kenzo shirai is just uh barfall one of the most amazing talented tumblers on everything like that i'm never seeing just the ability to go from skill to skill to skill so quickly and do very hard skills back and back and back to back to that um just in that how this new coat set up you know it seemed like it was almost set up perfectly for him but um i can't even find it would have been find it any coat it's true any coat it's a wow i mean yeah light ripple doubles i mean yeah out of this world when you make the the the mere fact that homeboy can finish with a quad yep after doing all the other hard passes he does you know people people you know dream upon a star and they feel cracking those dreams trying to do a quad let alone compete it awake and doing it as your last pass nikvad but he's paying the price for it now any he's paying the price for it now and that's something to consider is like everyone we picked so far nikita's fresh so we don't really know his durability but you did see him face planning get up so that means the kids made out of iron the tally sherbet was made out of iron do we ever hear about an injury with that guy no i don't think we did not really he has some shoulder if you were going to lean in the ninety-six i think everybody else is not a major yeah so no lower body you know yeah no no no hey well but hey you know he said you're paying for it now but you know he did win a lot you know he did taste the glory he did taste the glory i was forcing you to get that gold medal man he he i had to have to sit down so now he didn't get that gold yeah that was close that was that was someone's gonna pick someone's gonna pick based on that last day all right i was gonna do it around too you're going first this time you got first pick so here we go now make that in the third round pick it wisely pick it wisely is this round three round three two more pick left i got somebody up my sleeve and signy don't worry about it all right it's not me all right i got pick again yeah this is very difficult i was i was gonna go off of you guys hold on this is crazy uh so i got an and the key to and i got kenzo which means i gotta go back in time so i got two more picks right you got two more picks all right then i'm gonna go with um this is tough oh my god oh my god i'm making it harder on myself right now all right right overthink it i'm gonna go with uh this is tough i'm gonna go with lee sha shuan all right now you gotta explain this explain this explain it well he he yeah he beat the tally and uh he beat him in 92 has a little kid basically and then he he mounted with a triple in 92 but in 92 96 he mounted with a double twisting double twisting double layout so he could do both he could twist and everything but his execution scores on every event or what really won the game swam and in 96 which i guess didn't exist back then but his execution and flexibility and of course his strength like it was actually yeah lee sha shuan i think that's my my third pick and uh yeah i was sticking with it that's our midnight he just lost him he's on you that is a legendary gymnast in china lee i'm not worried you know what you know just just to match hasani's flavor in his field i'm gonna pick someone from the same country no i'm gonna pick someone okay that showed kenzo how to do what he do okay i'm gonna have to say it zokai ah okay good day he was before kenzo that's i was thinking about that too um nah they did it they took his triple back they went they went let's put like the chao swam did a triple back on those awful florida and over rotated it like it was nothing like like if you watch this triple back at how he rose on like almost into the third flip like it was it was impressive like i don't know man like like i'll give it to you new kai's new kai's night but he was not like finishing with double double you know being able to you know be one of those true pioneers of like the oh my god he just twisted and twisted and he's and he's gonna roll out to you know he oh man zokai did everything zokai double flip he twist he bound he did everything zokai all right i i i i know it's my heart i ain't much of my heart i'm gonna let you know well we're juniors i beat him i'm just gonna say really really yeah what do you know tell us a little bit about that when the day you can't say you can't say you be zokai we're winning how we're winning how you're moving at the civic alliance in 2004 you know um you know in Hawaii i remember that war war final boom i remember that second you guys make the cover did you guys make the cover of either gymnast or international uh you guys never covered didn't you i don't i don't i don't they ever got a cover but i was in the team i think that team did though because you guys won that right team yeah no no no sorry man i won the all around i won the all around the team back second channel with it i know like kind of kind of smoking and it's a strong team and it's a strong team about being american we had all that people were good but you got it a strong people they had they had like what uh um the chinese world champion at the time the junior like the jr like the tokyo international champion they had a strong team but anyway back to the back of the thing at hand ah you know you just went we went shaoshlong and zukai we just went to a little health floor if this is getting a little out of hand yeah i'm brought up the paper i had to go ahead and get paper like my mind is just like it's crazy right now i'm thinking about these old boy ledgers but hey we got to keep it moving we got one more i mean just some stacks line up obviously these line up currently are stacked with chinese uh in russian talent right now we got american in there we got one american in there and that's okay and that's okay because these are some heavy hitters on this event all right midnight we're gonna give him a sign of the benefit of the doubt here we're gonna let him close it out but we're gonna give uh start around four to midnight midnight who is your fourth and final pick and ultimate hold on can we talk about the half midnight is that feels like against the rules it's intimidating these are the generals hat that commands authority yo ask what country this is from ask what country is it from this is from australia you know i'm saying see if he has an unfair advantage right now i would go i would go face that real real bad about he's been zero-fatted basically he's been out there i'll be home yeah um this is a tough one this is a tough one i feel like um me going first is uh you know i got i got i thought a big hitter but we threw out i feel like we already threw out the big the biggest hitters now it's just uh you know what i'm gonna go with um co-hate uchi mora oh that's a good one that's a good actually didn't have no for his amazing floor but hey he did do the triple double um he's the greatest of all time um i'm going first if i was gonna last i probably pick someone else but i got to throw it out i got to put the pressure on asani to just just you know if you go when you have to you have to earn it earn it that's a really good pick um i did have him on my list so okay so that that's really mean uh yeah he's i put him up there with some of the best landing gymnast like some of the best sticking gymnasts of all time probably he might be i might consider him the best sticking gymnast ever considering what he would be throwing him what not um but um i might be stalling so that i can think a little bit right now dude okay so i got i got nikita i got i got uh kenzo i got lee shashwang uh jesus you picked uh jesus he picked the tally poham all right this is tough i'm gonna go with uh yawana some enlacentatus from greese uh yeah he's got that punch and he was highly correct amazing um vault that was a tough one too because i had i had to pick between him and one of my favorite gymnasts i i think this guy has it because he is an olympic champion i'm sure he could do way more than he competed uh and he kind of crossed generations he went from like that old standard three four pass system to like that crazy combination uh period of of gymnastics so i think that shows he could adapt true story i saw it he was like yo i'm doing whips every time i'm on the way he never learned he he never learned a good one now i never learned a good one but i tried i tried i'm glad i'm glad and snap anything while i was doing it too so i was saying i think you got that i'm gonna tell you i think what makes this guy stand out is his presentation everybody else kind of fit like a mode presentationally but yawana had his own style and i think that's part of the reason why he won it was a little bit more feminine but it worked for him like he had that really flamboyant floor style do you guys remember that yeah i mean i just think he was highly artistic he was really artistic you know like he wasn't just about the power he wanted the grace he wanted the artisticness so i kind of i respected that yeah and he's just crazy powerful too i mean it was the shorts it was the shorts really that did it it wasn't it wasn't his art it was more like yo it was just a low cut short nobody walked like he did though he was rocking his ass and i'm like i got to see him work out at the place i worked at in la for a little while and that was like mid-2000s maybe 2007 and he could still do everything so it's like 2007-2008 he was messing around with the comeback that was ten years after he was in one ten eleven years that's impressive midnight you got their shades on i can't see if they're speeding your eyes listen this is a uh it was a good round but hey before you before you give out you know liver winds because um i just want to give out a few honorable mentions man some people that were on my list that didn't make it but y'all they're pretty good i don't know son if you have any on your list do have some honorable mentions but you know i had the ego hit the lead-over my list that's a cool one yeah outside no i thought one of you guys would go and definitely play his name on that my phone well if i i want to yeah let's let's wait out our honorable mentions if i got to go honorable mention next yeah give it to me i think i want to go with her vaseo defere from spain because he had that yeah i forgot about bear yeah that mountain yeah i like chilies yeah chilies made out of iron guys yeah like yeah how many jennies would even try that with that he did a full twisting double layout to a punch one and three yeah i know well you you know that all right i see and that's why my honorable mention my under-re to watch him up close for years like you know you know he came to Oklahoma and i don't think i've ever seen someone be able to do what he does and then and then you know what i'm going to throw one out there that it's just just named because i wasn't in this debate but gauge dire is going to be someone when you freakin freakin freakin sprigish tumbler like freakin he's impressive you know so just watch out for him for years to come you got a more midnight yeah i got i got a few more i got um Justin sprain man like he didn't get into it because he was not what he heard but Justin sprain could do anything he could do anything man he was so bouncy i'm a high bar no floor no he was a triple double no he heard that me and didn't he heard his knee on vault yeah he was doing a triple on vault and hurting me yeah oh yeah he was that knee out and i think that was it then he became a high bar guy but when he was a junior when he was a junior because he's reached in seven so i used to compete it not against him he seemed to whip my butt but i competed at the same time he competed and um yeah man he was pretty bouncy on floor man he could do anything he was just always hurt you know that was just in spring staying i'm a thrower i'm not okay i got a name for you gonna enjoy uh name off right oh right there's no name is him i don't know so i said he was gonna be able to do under and name off on my list yep i'm not gonna i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna come with me you know you know you have paul homba more he was better to paul yeah before the injury before the injury right before that neck injury he was he was shoulder injury yeah and he was stronger yeah yeah he was so he was so much stronger than that that that neck thing children just anybody else got a double very easily very easy anybody else another half a bunch of i do i do because there's so many good floor guys i mean i think we all got to pay homage to valry lukeon yeah damn it i forgot about him oh he the first one he did he did it what on a wrestling mat i think you should have paid yeah i was wondering if we were gonna get bonus points for innovation and i had like i had like the father's skills yeah i got something for you and here's my wild card um Jason gatson i think Jason gatson would have been america's like one of our best floor guys mainly based on his pre-endry yeah pre-endry 1999 i'm thinking his land his landings were insane and i also think he would have been playing if he didn't get hurt yeah he was winning that first day yep then he'd go yeah yeah that was a bad cap i remember i watched that that cap was bad he rotated slow yeah yeah his dismount cap wasn't the greatest off i-bar but man this was this was you know wow obviously we keep throwing out names we keep throwing out names floors one of those he said that you know that's a basis of how you get started in gymnastics it's flippant you know i mean so so many people would just say gravitate towards floor so there these names are tough and i'm obviously you guys got your names down yes it's not he has the key to the kenzo swab swam no one picked a korean how do we not pick anyone from from korea i don't know i mean i think there's a couple really solid guys yeah from like from 2004 to 2002 remember that guys from either korea maybe you think in chinese takka those guys are very powerful both his as well oh no that's the guy who won this year uh the flippant okay remember all right you know he's from you know from sing from biddlipine yeah the flippant yeah he's nice he's nice he's i still think he's got he's proven the perfect he's got he's got he's he's more proven than do like he's beautiful but you know are you gonna really put him over kohane kokohane's on on a list because of beauty and you know kohane you know so he still has more to show he's nice by no means but this was a tough list this isn't yeah that's a tough one but i mean you guys definitely hit it on the head with a somebody's few i mean but yeah especially for a name off as many floor medals as he had um i thought he would get on there i got a shot go ahead go ahead uh jordan yolfta yeah we got you he thought by a bit now he won medals he won he won floor he won't let his country 2003 world let's just say artistry yeah all right he was nice he was nice but the thing is jordan jordan was nice he never stuck his life right there for years he really stuck that double out he could what the thing is he stayed you know obviously i turned into a talent career but he just he knew what he could do and he just did that and i mean he you know like he he was he was that one of the first people that like killed pommel horse on floor he wasn't great on floor he was there up there flare up down spinner up down trill up there and go boom it's like all right so he's nice he was great on floor but when it comes to just the rawness of floor i wouldn't put him on the level of the guy that on these lit he was nice i think he left out jay dalton j they just got him because they took it out they took a little bit of uh someone on pommel horse and just injected pommel horse into those guys because jay stubborn on pommel horse these guys don't jay dalton should have been one of the biggest gymnastic stars america ever had that dude had the little pasta skills he retired too dude yep well he won the two olympics he was at two olympics he went to olympics he had time to do that but men's gymnastics he looked like a jay never missed ratina world championships or olympics the teams that he were on they did not always perform up to standard and he would have been like that face of those teams because of his success in those competitions but because they didn't have that success his face didn't get out there as much you know what i mean yeah and that was the way he was he was over consistent he could hit all right so okay here we go all right i think i got a winner on this today i think i got it all right you know weighing out you know round one whoa the key to sherbo man i had to stalemate that one that was you know that was a 10-10 round i'll take a great take about both guys i mean you really can't go wrong with either of them because even now i think sherbo could do the tutors routine and i think that and key to do sherbo do too you know what i mean so uh still made on that one round two that was kendo versus paul ham and kenzo definitely edges out paul all the off the strength of the the twisting abilities freakish freakish freakish freakish freakish freakish freakish ability to just twist off the ground and land triple twist quadrant three and a half twist and quadruple twist i can't do any of those three skills uh and never even landed eating those three skills let alone being able to compete through those skills on an international stage successfully so kendo won that round didn't i sorry then sorry as much as i love paul ham kenzo got that one round three that was a tough round as well and that was uh that was shawish wong versus zucai right that even in that one two different areas shawish wong i think uh i mean who knows what he was doing in practice i wish we could see old footage of those guys but i think that that was also a stalemate as well those are two great picks those are almost like that but old anywhere you know what i mean for that hurt and then going into the last round you know co-hate and um you know sanidistin and yeah i would have to give i would have to give stylistically it's hard to go against the goat i mean the do's the goat on multiple events like uh that's hard you know i mean the dude is just just unreal what he accomplished and so i had to give that last round the co-hate and so with that being said this top ultimate line-up win so that's not any time i think i was awesome i won i think i think you lost off the strength of the of the kenzo of the kenzo and paul ham line-up i mean paul's going to hit but if kenzo hits even 90 percent he's still going to score his high paul in that round so i had to give kenzo the knot in that one because then um obviously you got you got one back with co-hate you should you co-hate or you should you co-hate you can build a teammate against each other that would have been your better bet and then you know oh try kill beat him you know that would have been tough well here's the next question but i get it i love your job aside are you saying that was the worst congratulations ever it's the worst congratulations ever yo i'm in here looking at co-hate right now he's like sticking everything oh i'm saying is that it's gimzo the best summer of all time if he never launched in the is that is that we're going to because in that case i understand it i'm not you know kenzo you think that's that guy i have there uh that's what he has to tell you how hard you can't say all the time because it's not hard it's not fair it's just like he's in it you're not because of one people they compete under the code today is the option to do the skills that are being done now until the floor is man i i i bounce on the floor man you know i tell you and you know what a prime example of like how four sizes are much better just if anyone watched the american cup this year you saw how much those people were struggling on that ai floor and the ai floors are so great for us because we were on the now you know i mean if we stumbled on the ai floors and now we'd be like yeah i mean those floors are amazing we competed you know 10 15 years ago and the new people now that are trained on three floors and whatnot they go to ai floor they struggle they struggle i was at the american cup when kenzo was on ai floor he had to down raise her team because he couldn't do the same stuff on the ai floor so technology is important really do matter really do matter so it's hard but but the thing is with me that got me to be with exani on the wind was yell man you like i said unless i need to do his night i think he'd have been amazing on these floors but it was wow wow wow wow i would have been better than everyone now yeah if you watch if you watch out quickly he left the floor how quickly he left the floor man so i thought i would have been doing a fourth-person trouble back i guarantee it he'd have been a fourth-person trouble that go back out there's no way he wouldn't have been able to do it without well he left the floor so for me that he having kenzo was walking the same lineup that was that was that was being set max for me you know i mean so yo okay all right you brought up in the water final that we brought about these results as well well let me just tell you know you know obviously we're gonna do a poll on the insta you know with these two line up so we'll see what we'll see what the what the what the fan thinks i thought i was kind of shook if i'm being honest midnight choice had me shook because that first pick up you know that first thing was terrible you were like oh oh like you're going to go with the thing though like midnight went with essentially one of the most uh the high percentage one of the most high percentage like hitting gymnast of all time versus a gymnast who really kind of kind of messes up a lot kenzo was that's like yeah well let's put like babies about mid midnight went for like you know he got he got three eleven all right yeah yeah like what are they all i do not call this tally i could three i could three oh yeah call the tally go ahead like if you're talking about like a lineup of all line up that is the greatest because i like you know you got a ruin one of the shows which you want to be to get that lineup because people go pick them in all around lineup but yeah i got them all around us too yeah well you dare go win if you know i'm not gonna deal right now but yeah i'm just saying am i we've seen koi get beat at world see like that's that's why i think i was nervous to pick him is because he he uh chokes we're seeing his down great we're seeing his well yeah well his body broke down you know what you have on the ankle injury and in the wrist you know and then all and then all and then all and then the magic doesn't emphasize execution that well there's not enough gap between amazing execution you know that guy has the best execution ever and he has he has execution scores that are within a tent or maybe a two-cent between someone that doesn't have amazing immaculate execution so that's the magic in fault you know i mean yeah that's your massive fault but just purely off of just floor though that's what we're going off of even though we're not trying to take an account Paul or Paul killed in a floor because he's a former world champion on floor right all of us like the paul does it like the paul does it like the yeah the tramp everyone we have no one didn't know what yeah what we're looking at everyone so you know you guys don't have to know what that's like oh well he got second place though all you guys want to keep it one spot one what listen to these ones Paul what the time what the time what the time what the time what the time what the time was so yeah we did get it so the factor so the factor so the factor i think the main factor i think that me and taki were pulling away from it that but shao shuan shared talent and just uh intangible of what he was able to do and how great he was and then and then kenzo's just your ability to twist you know i mean when it comes to floors like that's an edge because then you know when you compare any of you have to put their routines all side by side kenzo's gonna definitely stick out you know and so is the god from greece i'm just saying the god from greece because i can't say it's not let's just play like this it's just it's an impossible thing to you can know but just imagine having those eight guys on the floor don't go past or past it's amazing like what am i watching who wants who wins if you only have one pass that's what i want to know if they get if you can i want to do it in pass if either kenzo or the guy from greece man i'm not gonna have to know the guy from greece man i'm not gonna have to know it's not gonna know it's kenzo we have double layout punch front one and quarter no you get the punch right you did one and a quarter to the summit no no he did that in a different pass but he didn't he didn't do it from the double out didn't care what he just said no wasn't it double double layout he didn't want to quarter he didn't with double out punch front and then he ended with double out punch front all right ending with the double layout punch front and actually i don't think i contemplated that one time didn't i i think i contemplated that one time like yo we're fitted to the double out punch front yeah i was like you talk that time i just want to end up to end up to do that i could have done it i think i actually did it but i just like to finish with it no way no way but i think those are intangible skills obviously i mean when you look at uh paul just the execution i mean he was in air when they're doing the you know spill and a half full front one and threes double full front front one and three uh paul still mounted lay double double stick you know um you know ended double layout stick so paul it actually showed everything in the floor from technicality to power so um pastu he had a strong he had a strong great yeah great flair um and then yeah that's true so that's something when you did speak somebody yeah that's true that's something i didn't take into account your ability to do stuff on the ground i didn't do that yeah you know and that's crazy isn't it amazing how vastly different the answer to this question is if you change the question just a little bit like if you if you say who has the best who could who could probably do the best overall pass you know what i'm saying like then i go back to her vasea to fair with that full twisting double level punch one and three punch one and three yeah like crazy yeah because that you have to be genetically made to do that do that do that the ago take him crazy passing with a bite down with a belito i don't know how many did what he did but a radiant double pie punch double punch or something like that yeah that's crazy ago like kind of took the pound deal to a whole new level i'm not punching forward out of a double flip you know you can blow your back out you can just throw in your knees like your knees could be facing the completely opposite direction oh oh you can just try to get away you said that's hard oh seriously no but yeah he'll elito changed the game too i feel like he kind of opened that door for kenzo and those guys in that twisting bounding i'm gonna bring sand to the mix if you're talking about single pass capability to don't need to like that where where where no people as jonja did down the side yo he did that as a side pass was under two and a half punch double punch as a side tag yo and still dismount it with an Arabian double front layout down there that's a negative one yeah yeah see what he did it was just a beat he did Arabian what was that skill called what it was basically like a laid out Arabian full twist out with the foot so yeah you're in holy yeah he did the hibolito that's not with the hibolito there's the hibolito wow and he would be a double double in the same routine i remember that he did he did he did he did lay double double and a half lay double double half yeah tell the whole routine because you were there for though okay even crazy routine man dude these crazy routine like i don't know what he did he did he did he did he did two and a half two and a half double front lay double and a half what was it and what was it next to that it was like double twist punch double something i know he couldn't repeat double front it was i can't remember i can't remember but it was it was ridiculous you know i don't know but he just mad it was like i think he might have just found with hibolito stretch at that point but not even any of our list hibolito because he actually what happened i said he was out of mind i mentioned i just that when he came down to floor finals he was just so powerful he could never stick land as an editor and he showed him a flight with his outside of his landing you know what's crazy i put lajanra above hibolito i put kyle chufel or is it chufel or chufel? yeah yeah like hibolito is kind of considering all the amazing things he did he does not stand out at all for me when it comes to floor and i don't know why i think i just i don't think i like his presentation or something i don't know in that weird how none of us really really picked up or kyle kyle was amazing but he blew out he blew out his knee doing hibolito oh yeah he blew up that knee at the same time yeah do i have to leave him stop you can't do hibolito you know how do we not give hibolito credit what his skill is killing people you know the only reason is to read a while i don't give him that because i trade with fiend and see if he did it better than hibolito by a mile yeah you're right he did it so much better than hibolito what am i better i'm about to throw in another person i know what mention that's a really a part of the mile yep well what's like my his his affection is what killed him on our list because he came on his career his prime year's man yeah but i think he was about his prime years anyway he wasn't around during those years that's why they affected well no i was here with eric lokas they were the eric lokas the same year but he was more popular he was eric lokas is older man eric lokas yeah he was older yeah he was older yeah he was older yeah he was older yeah he was through eric lokas was at like a 95 world champion doing the lokas so the mile came around in the early 2000s yeah wait wait eric lokas hung around though for a while right yeah he hung around before yeah he went in american cup and then kind of dipped out i think that was like one of the last meets i remember him at all right it's sony so listen man we're going we're going to end it on this congrats on the win you are a great debater but i will get you next time i look forward to it sir nice and yo before you go we need to talk about this movie you have coming out um me and the guys we've been talking about it we're excited can you just talk about this movie name of it and what's going on with that absolutely guys um i'm in a film a feature film called take out girl starring a hip bar artist headie wong and uh the story is about a 20 year old asian american girl whose family business which is a chinese food restaurant is going under and in an attempt to save her restaurant and her family's fortune basically she decides to parlay her food delivery skills into drug delivery skills and we see hijinks in sue and uh we've been lucky we got five film festivals already we got two now sin quest yep sin quest which is um USA Today's number one film festival in the country um yes we did really well we premiered there but because of the situation with them the illness kind of running rampant across the world right now it's been postponed until the rest of the film festival has been postponed until august and then okay our la premiere coming up we have our organ premiere coming up and we have our maryland premiere coming up right now so we got a lot of big things to look forward to man that's incredible man i'm so happy for you i've been following you know you're just you know you're moving making career and it's great to see you getting this publicity and get all these great reviews all your views are like all your views are like nine out of ten 10 out of ten four four and a half stars out of five i'm like hey man like you know everyone said it's like everyone it's a clear consistent message like you know the story's amazing the pacing's amazing and then for a low budget film it had high studio quality which is something that i think in the long run just gonna bow well for your career so hats off to you man i appreciate it you know something guys i like isn't it crazy how you do gymnastics for a super long time then you move into your other thing and you still gettin judged and scored all the time right so nothing's really gentle it's funny too because as we go to these film festivals it feels a lot like going to a competition you're like trying to you know because there's awards at the end of all of them and you're doing well on a regional level and then you're doing good on a national level and then hopefully you get you know theatrical distribution and really good video details so same stuff yeah and you can just out of a 10 which is not kind of nice i don't get me started don't get me started on the 10 everybody that's a whole another show oh man all right all right so so so where can people where can people see the movie i know it's been released you know so when's it gonna be i guess released on a national scale or kind of what's the whole distribution like well i'm gonna i'm gonna keep going to the film festivals for probably roughly a year maybe a little longer because of the the coronavirus guys um it's slowing things down but what i'm trying to do is i'm trying to go from city to city with these film festivals and just sell this thing at the end of that when we have fans all over the country so there's a demand for it so i'm kind of doing this vaudeville style tour so it looks like it's probably gonna be about a year okay all right get to know look out everybody yes sir all right if you're anywhere i can anywhere someone can find a trailer or teaser the trailer is coming out before our la premiere which is okay all right la premiere is mid-june as of right now okay be postponed but mid-june is supposed to premiere okay all right so we can expect a trailer around that so we'll not first get it come on now you hear that stay tuned g-bell absolutely that sounds awesome good stuff all right well thanks everyone for tuning in to gymnastics ville's ultimate line-ups you know we don't keep it going uh saunee thanks for coming we'd love to have you coming on the show again man you know keep it moving absolutely any time yeah all right and i'm in that robin stu massive voice of acrobatics we'll see you next time