H2 - Charlie James honors Charlie Kirk, features Dr. Larry Arnn on his legacy, and discusses global and political conflicts.

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Transcript Charlie James: Welcome back to the program. Coming up one hour from now, we'll be talking with Kyle Murnen. Kyle Murnen is the chief staff officer at Hillsdale College, because Charlie Kirk had a huge connection with Hillsdale College. Now, Charlie Kirk never graduated college, and he took a lot of flak for that. All these people were like, "Oh, you don't..." Charlie was smarter than all of them. I don't know if you've ever seen that Oxford debate where all of these kids from Oxford with all their advanced degrees debated Charlie Kirk, and he just laid waste to all of them—every single one of them—could not debunk his facts with their ideology. Charlie Kirk invested himself in learning at Hillsdale College, not through the standard curriculum, but with the free online classes that they offered. In fact, he impressed the president of Hillsdale College, Dr. Larry Arnn, so much that he took Charlie under his wing, and he even spoke at his memorial service. Listen to what Dr. Larry Arnn said. Dr. Larry Arnn: Good morning. We had the pastor; I'm the school teacher. I have one short story to tell you about Charlie Kirk, my friend. He became a friend of mine because I interrogated him one time. 19-year-olds are my specialty. I asked him some questions he couldn't answer, and he was already becoming famous. And I noticed his reaction. He said, "What should I do?" And I said, "Well, you have to suffer. If you want to grow, you have to suffer. Hard to learn. Into the night, crack of dawn in the morning. Start with the Bible. Read the classics. Study the founding of America. In those places, you will find that there's a ladder that reaches up toward God. And at the bottom of it is the ordinary good things that are around us everywhere. If we can call them by their names, they have being. And the beings of the good things are figments of God. You will find that article in Aristotle. You will find it in the Bible. You will find it in Madison and Jefferson." "How do I learn that?" he said. And I said, "You have to suffer. You have to study. You have to think." I thought I'd never hear from him again. Within a month, he got hold of my cell phone number, and he texted me a copy of a certificate of completion of a Hillsdale College online course. He would go on to do that 31 times. I keep a list in my head of the six or eight young people—and I'm very privileged, I get to know many inspiring young people—who are the best I ever saw. Charlie is the only one who was never a full-time student at Hillsdale College who was on that list. We will miss him dearly. He can't be replaced. You know, a good thing is a thing that has being. An assassin is not a thing that has being. The assassin must give up his humanity to destroy something that has being. Charlie lives on. The assassin will die. Charlie James: And he's exactly right. He's exactly right. And all of these people at all of these college campuses all over the country—University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, we saw one flyer or one message on a message board from the University of South Carolina—all over, all of these students that are out there celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk, mocking the assassination of Charlie Kirk. There's a salon out there that is offering neck tattoos to resemble the wound that Charlie Kirk endured in his assassination. Those people have no being. They have no being. But what really stuck out in that speech from Dr. Larry Arnn was about suffering. A lot of people out there think that they should go through life with no suffering, that everything should just be handed to them. And when you do that, there is no growth. There is absolutely no growth without suffering. A seed struggles to break through the soil. It struggles to dig its roots deep into the soil. It's a struggle. But before long, that seed is bearing fruit. And some people out there don't think they should have to do that because, you know why? They've never been ...

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