Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Luana Anders Bill Paxton, Charles Grodin, Jesus, Michael, Julian Sands

Podcast begins with a general discussion about the recent submarine disaster, Bill Paxton stops by to say hello. When Jennifer and I first met, it was doing a session with my old friend Bill, who introduced himself by putting her in the submarine he took to visit the Titanic. She didn't know who she was at first, nor why he was showing her the ship. He talks generally about how things went awry, and cites his pal James Cameron.  Then Charles Grodin stops by to talk about his godson RJ and his recent graduation, as well as a prediction that he will become a music composer.  Jennifer could not have known that we were talking about exactly that topic this past week. Then I had a question about a podcast I did with Simon Bown - it will air on July 10th, where we have a conversation with Jesus. At some point this topic of a Roman soldier who "looked like Jesus" and "took his place" came up - interesting to hear this twist on that twist, as Archangel Michael does the talking. As Jennifer notes, she has no motive to make this up - she's reporting, but in essence, he gives another spin on the story which is recounted in "The Greatest Story Never Told as Told by Jesus and Those who Knew him."  According to Michael - the story is 98% accurate. So there's two percent to continue to learn. Eventually we get to a conversation about Julian Sands and the recent discovery of what appears to be his remains.  As noted, we spoke to him not long after he disappeared, and he pointed out again that he still exists, and is sending messages of love to his wife and children. It's sad to think he's gone, but good to hear he's enjoying the flipside. I met him briefly through Jan Sharp and Phillip Noyce, we had lunch to continue some of our deep conversation and stayed in touch over the years, not as much as I wish we could have. But either way, good to hear that he's been found and people can go about having some closure. "Don't be afraid to climb" he says. Good advice for everyone.