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May 26, 2026 32 min

Hacking the Hackers

from Behind the digital curtain Hosted by Sergio Sanchez

Someone broke into your house. They went through your filing cabinet, found your car keys, drove your car to an ATM, and cleaned out your checking account. How long do you think that took? Roger Grimes, who has spent 30 years hunting down the people who do this for a living, digitally speaking, says it took him two hours. He was PAID to do it. He's never failed. Not once. And here's the part that'll ruin your day: Grimes says many professional penetration testers get BORED. They find the job too easy. They move on after a few years. Not because the challenge got too hard. Because it never does. The hacker sitting outside your company's digital front door right now is not a genius in a hoodie eating ramen at 3am. He has a salary. Benefits. Probably better health insurance than you. Hacking is now a profession. A boring, well-compensated profession. I'm Dr. Sergio Sanchez, Dr. Qubit, and this is Behind the Digital Curtain. Today we're going inside Hacking the Hacker by Roger Grimes, a book that will permanently change how you look at every device you own.

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