Hanzi Freinacht | 12 Rules Better Than Jordan Peterson's, Denial of Death, Religion & Spirituality

Daniel Görtz is a political philosopher, sociologist, and metamodern thinker — and one of the two minds behind the mythical philosopher Hanzi Freinacht. Hanzi's work includes "The Listening Society," "Nordic Ideology," and the upcoming "12 Commandments" — a bold and nuanced challenge to Jordan Peterson's bestselling "12 Rules for Life" that offers a more comprehensive and metamodern philosophy for living well.In our previous conversation, we explored what metamodernism is, the pitfalls of postmodernism, and pathways toward a metamodern spirituality. This time we go deeper — into why Hanzi's rules for life are more nuanced and comprehensive than Jordan Peterson's, what the denial of death reveals about how we construct meaning, and why religion never really goes away no matter how secular a society becomes.We explore Ernest Becker's concept of the denial of death and immortality projects, the difference between wholeness and greatness as life orientations, and the distinction between religion and spirituality — and why that distinction matters more than most people realize.We also get into the Headless God and why religion is a permanent feature of human civilization, Hanzi's conception of wisdom, how to find the therapy that's right for you, and what it might look like to build a meta-team capable of meeting the challenges of our time.A wide-ranging and intellectually rich conversation for anyone ready to go beyond Jordan Peterson rules into something more nuanced and expansive.🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES 🔗Hanzi Freinacht's personal website 12 Commandments — Hanzi Freinacht The Listening Society — book summary Nordic Ideology — book summary The Denial of Death — Ernest Becker The Worm at the Core — Sheldon Solomon Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha — Daniel Ingram Durkheim's Sociology of Religion🕰️ TIMESTAMPS 🕰️0:00 - Introduction 2:37 - Why Hanzi's rules are much better than Jordan Peterson's 10:24 - Sublime mediocrity 13:26 - Wholeness vs greatness 16:26 - The denial of death and immortality projects 29:46 - Expanding our thinking about religion 46:30 - The difference between religion and spirituality 57:21 - The Headless God — why religion never goes away 1:08:52 - Hanzi's conception of wisdom 1:22:27 - Finding the therapy that is right for you 1:37:42 - Artem's overview of Hanzi's upcoming book 1:45:05 - How can we create our meta-team?*Subscribe to my YouTube channel to watch the video versions of the Elevating Consciousness Podcast *Subscribe to the Insighter Substack to get in-depth articles on the theory and practice of human transformation through a post-conventional