This is Dan Jurgens, and if you want to have a good time, keep listening to The Krypton Report. Jason J. Lewis, the voice of Superman on Justice League action, and you're listening to The Krypton Report. Happy holidays and Merry Christmas. Tyler here from The Krypton Report, wishing you and your loved ones a treasured holiday season.
I'm actually in the car right now driving, doing some holiday shopping and things like that. And I just wanted to give a little bit of a message. The holidays are an important time for me. It is, you know, giving gifts is one of my love languages. And I also just love the history, the culture, the folklore, the music, the lights. But I like the idea of the spirit of giving and taking care of other people. I think that's my favorite part of the holidays is people actually try to be kinder. And I think too many times people get caught up in all the commercialism of the holidays and forget the spirit of the holidays. So I encourage everyone to just put some love and do a little bit of good this holiday season.
The other thing I want to say is this year's holiday episode is a little bit different because we have over the years, 10 years now, gone through pretty much every D.C. holiday book, special, collection, TV episode. And if you look on our Facebook page and our social media, I put a link to it if you want to celebrate D.C. Christmas and holiday, what you can do. And this year's D.C. holiday book I read and I was very let down.
something the soul is gone of just like really sweet holiday messages and I just encourage everyone to just reread the old stuff that they had before um this one just it just felt like I don't want to say phoned it in but I didn't feel like it really had the spirit of the holidays as previous ones I you know one of my favorites is in I want to say 2009 maybe it's the uh eight page story basically where it's the superman story but it's santa claus and it's the You know, no L is sent to Earth from Krypton and everything. And I really like that story. And I really would love to see them do more with that version of Superman. Like, Superman-Santa would be amazing. And it's just, I really like when they hit the story as well. And, you know...
Christmas is an interesting holiday because it is such a, if you look at it, a mixture of different traditions of different cultures. You can look at it from a Christian point of view, or you can look at it as just a time of year where we celebrate giving and family and a spirit of, you know, the Yule Festival, Centronella, beyond just Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Ramadan, and the others that, if I miss, I apologize. But it is a time of holidays. So blessings to you and your family. Enjoy this episode. Me and my friends that I am blessed to have and part of what I call the Krypton Report family. Because if there's anything that we know is DC is all about family. Thank you. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. As you'll notice, I am Tyler, the Superman of Blue, wearing my new red Santa. It's like a jacket cardigan sweater and a new Superman holiday inspired sweater t-shirt because I love the holidays. With me is my main man, Mr. James. I got the beard, Cole.
Yeah, it's coming back in. Ho, ho, ho, James. Ho, ho. Ho, ho, ho. Yeah, the white beard pretty much, you know. Let it grow through the holidays. Yeah. It'll be nice. And then joining us down below completing our Brainiac Triangle is our man, man, Levi. What's up, buddy? How's it going, guys? Welcome back. Welcome back on today's fine episode. You know, as a lot of people will learn, you know, we've recorded a lot of things out of order. So we have some news today.
that i just want to touch on but you know it could be old by the time we get there but that's been the kind of year we're in um just trying to be ahead of things but we're gonna hit some news and then have a really cool episode in store for you so news wise let's see what the good old tyler saved up uh i've heard mixed things that lanterns has been delayed till summer of 2026 but then i've heard that it's still on course for early 2026 so i don't know we still haven't got any footage The Batman 2 is set to film in Gotham City Exteriors in Glasgow and Liverpool in January. Levi and I were talking off mic. There was a thing that we saw that said Scarlett Johansson is in talks for The Batman 2. James, first thought who ScarJo might be in The Batman Dose. Oh my god. I don't know. I mean, she wouldn't exactly be my first pick for Italia. See, we already said no, it can't be Talia. No more switching flopping races. No.
I mean, she could be, I don't know, a Vicky or a Silver. I think Silver St. Cloud would actually be kind of cool because we've only had her live action in Gotham. Levi said Nora Freeze. So I'm like, that's cool, that's cool. Or I just hope it's not some dumb throwaway character, but the love interest, like a Vicky Vale, Julie Madison, a Silver St. Cloud, which Silver, I think, would be kind of cool. Poison Ivy would be kind of cool too, but I don't really know if that would fit with Matt Reeves' universe, you know? Let's see.
Over here, I got Gotham City in Clayface was inspired and everything by the Batman, the animated series Feet of Clay. So I guess we'll have to rewatch that before we see Clayface. Let's see here. Frank Grillo confirms he will return as Rick Flag Sr. in Man of Tomorrow. Frank Grillo. Yay. I'm just playing. I like Frank Grillo. And we did get that. We talked about before Jimmy Olsen series will be called DC Crime, which, okay. And they're pretty sure that
David Cornswit and Rachel Brosnahan are not expected to appear, but Wendell Pierce, Michaela Hoover, Bennett, Christopher McDonald are expected to appear. Well, of course, that's the crew of Daily Planet. Thank you. And that's what we asked for. DC crime. That's the Jimmy Olsen show. That's what it's officially called. I'm like, why? Yeah, yeah. What's that about? That's weird. Somewhere on the internet, I found some company has, if you're looking for a super cleanup, there's a Superman branded mop and bucket.
I sent James the picture. I think it's in a foreign country, based on the price sign. But I want the Superman mop and bucket. I mean, it would make cleaning a little more bearable. You know, when you gotta break out the mop and bucket. It makes cleaning super. And then, it was officially announced that Brainiac is set to be the villain for Man of Tomorrow, which we all predicted and said it should be, and was already casting it.
And then this is the things to be touched. I'm going to pronounce this as close as I can because I know there's an accent with it, but I don't want to. But Klaus Bang, the actor best known to me as Dracula from the Netflix slash BBC Dracula, has tested for Brainiac. So has, I found out, talking with Levi and our friend Brad that Matt Smith has and Sam Rockwell. So, boys, Brainiac, who we think?
I feel like Matt Smith's too easy of a casting for Briniac. I feel he's too easy, but he's perfect at the same time. I feel like Hollywood-wise, he needs redemption because Hollywood has dicked him over. They screwed up his role of what it was supposed to be for Terminator Genisys. They messed that whole thing up. They cut him back almost completely out of that movie. They made him the weird antagonist from Morbius. Yeah. I think that would be the best pick.
I think Klaus is an awesome actor if you've watched that Dracula, but he doesn't seem Brainiac to me. I don't know. Because I feel like James Gunn's going to do something different. If we were doing the version that we got in Krypton, he would be fine doing more of that. But I think in a James Gunn style, based on what we've seen so far, I think we need an actor of a different style. I've seen Klaus in Dracula. I was actually re-watching that when that news broke. But he's also Northman, and I really like him in both projects, but I just don't see Brainiac.
yeah that's what i'm saying i think he's great but i just don't see brainiac i see him something else i'd love to see him as something else um but not brainiac yeah i think of the rumored actors i think matt smith's the best choice it's the easy one it's the like oh brainiac should be a matt smith type that can do like the super cerebral yeah i mean he's he already and i also think he comes with a built-in fan base just to help win more people over to the project and he's already in the the warner brothers hbo yeah system so yeah yeah he's plugged in there with house of dragon right yeah that's where our supergirl is and speaking of supergirl we got a look today at her costume and did you guys actually get a chance to really look at the picture yeah so it's for the most part it's the same costume she wore in superman but if you look at the belt is larger and a different style her skirt is a different material and looks lighter and her boots are over the knee and are more of um
looks like a material similar to like say the man of steel boots compared to what the boot style she wore in superman so it is a different suit and then i went back and the uh though the lookout you know photo that we got of her is actually in this suit with the higher boots and the different belt and i sent you guys the photos and stuff comparison i like it it still looks more or less like what we expected based off her tiny cameo in superman and yeah you were talking earlier today let's see it in motion like let's actually yeah like it it looks more like the woman of tomorrow comic um and so it makes me wonder like how early or late millie's cameo in superman was filmed um like if they had just like casted her and then threw together a quick costume for her because i wonder if that's even a full costume that she's wearing or if it's like a piece of like david's suit or something like made up that's because she has the big jacket on
um and everything like they just kind of put something together for her and because if they would have filmed this during production of supergirl you would think she'd actually be wearing her costume from that film no i think she definitely was probably filmed pretty quickly i'd say probably middle of production on superman because they announced her casting pretty early and that she would premiere in superman that she would make a cameo in that so it wasn't like surprise last minute so i bet they probably weren't very far into pre-production on supergirl so it was like okay let's get her costume let's put some with it being a cameo i mean uh it's probably just one of the one of the many test costumes that they had put together you know trying to find and it was just one of the ones that was probably more reminiscent of what david's looked like then and they hadn't you know landed on their final design yet yeah so superman was done by the time or pretty close to being done by the time supergirl went into production exactly because i think that because like recently they were uh millie was on the cover of was it forbes australia or something like that and she looks much older and more like muscular built up fuller that way than she does here you know because she was very small looking so i'm uh so that just got me thinking about okay when this was filmed and when uh supergirl
But really seeing, what do you call it? Seeing this costume shot and stuff, it lets me know that she filmed pretty early on Superman. And I mean, her and David aren't even in the same shots either. You know? Yeah, they're never together. So they probably could have filmed her, you know, after they were, right before they tore down the set or something. So, but that's all the news I got for right now. Probably before this episode drops, watch, there'll be a trailer or something will come out that we'll have to do an immediate recording for and throw off my release schedule.
Levi, did we lose you? You look frozen. I'm finding my list. I'm very zen, Tyler. I'm very zen. Since it is the holiday season, is there any Superman slash DC related item that you guys are hoping to get for Christmas? I'm not hoping to get it for Christmas, but I did pre-order the hot toy of David's Superman and they're saying it's supposed to ship this month, so I'm hoping that that shows up and I can tell myself Merry Christmas. Alright.
All right, James. You know what I can think of offhand? I don't know. Me and Jamie have seen some things, and I'm wondering if she's getting me. She's already got me something. I just don't know what it is. All right. I don't really know. I had hope that the... I can't even think right now. What do you call it? The one McFarlane regular-sized five-inch figure that we looked at had come out because it said winter of this year.
So I'm hoping that it gets released. Oh, why can't I think? James, help! The Authority! There we go. It was the Superman and the Authority figure. Oh, Superman and the Authority figure, yeah. Yes, gosh. I was going to say, you weren't giving me anything to go with, except for it's just that we were something that had come out, and it was a list of like seven figures. You're like, Tyler, don't be an idiot. We all blink from time to time. The other thing is, as of this recording, because we are recording this a little ahead of time, to be on time.
It is the one year since Superman and Lois ended. It's a little bittersweet, guys. Can't believe it's already been a year since we said goodbye to Clark. Yeah, it made me want to watch some. I was starting a rewatch, got through season one, and Solomon wanted to watch season two with me, and we haven't got there. Thus, the story of my life. Isn't that all it is these days? Wait for someone else? Yeah, always wanting to do something, and you guys haven't gotten around to it.
Yeah, it's because someone else wants to join you and you're like, well, okay, I guess I'm waiting. But it's time, my friends, for Supergirl Sailor here to get on to bed. Oh, and she liked the Supergirl costume, didn't you, Sailor? Yes, I did. Yeah, I showed her the picture. Good night, baby. That's my sweet Supergirl right there. Love you. Love you, baby. She's going to rule the world one day, guys. Be ready. I'll put on a good word for you both, okay? So, all right. So, the thing for today's episode was...
Building your own Superman universe. I feel like this is kind of bringing down the conclusion to the year of Superman that was, you know, Superman, the movie 2025, you know, I kind of wish it was called like, I mean, I know it's just called Superman, but it's still kind of just a pain to kind of distinguish it. You got to say Superman, the movie or Superman 25 or whatever. Well, I mean, it's just, I mean, you're talking about 78. It's the movie, isn't it? Isn't that the title anyways? Yeah. Superman movie. Yeah. This is just Superman. Superman. Yeah. So.
Supergirl is going to be a little more confusing because it's just called Supergirl. Same as the original from the... I got a feeling not many people are going to get those confused. I got to do an interview with John Jackson Miller who wrote the new Batman novels that continue the universe of Michael Keaton. During that interview, I asked him, man, I would love to see your care and everything that you did go into writing...
the novel of like if superman met supergirl in the christopher reeve era and he was like yeah he's like you know the thing with that is we got multiple movies in that era and he's like and the problem is you know there's not there's more distance between christopher reeve superman than there is for keaton's batman with a lot of people and he said plus nobody remembers or ever thinks of the uh supergirl movie so they would be like wait who is this what is this and i was like well yeah that's true that's true so but what we're set out to do today is to build our own Superman universe, starting with several categories. And the first one being Krypton. So what your planet design, where you're pulling it from, from live action, comics, or animated series, your choice for your Krypton in your Superman universe. We'll begin with Levi, then go to the Man of Steel himself, James Cole, and I'll go last. I mean, planet design, for me, peak Krypton is Man of Steel.
It is, I think, the most visually interesting. It's not the giant ice planet or crystal planet. It's so much more visually interesting to look at. Okay. Cool. Nice. I'm going to call you just cold today since I'm in my Santa thing, my Santa sweater and hat, and people get cold for Christmas. And see, no one expects when they go to get a lump of James in their stocking. He just pops out like, bam! What's up? I would say that too. No one's a lump of James. I just leave James in people's stockings.
I don't even know. He's like, hey, I'm James Cole. Nice to meet you. Merry Christmas. Santa got confused, but hey, he's a guy. It's like little bits of Lobo leave everywhere. Just James Cole's pop-up. Exactly. That's how we're doing it. So your Krypton, James. My Krypton, I like the Krypton from the show Krypton. You know, kind of being...
a world that feels can be lived in you know um it's got bits of man of steel in there but it's got bits of other things too you know and the way that the planet is kind of like partially frozen and the other part you know they the way they live yeah um and i'm just gonna piggyback off you like that's what i chose i chose krypton because I like so much of its art design. I like Man of Steel, but I would have liked to have gotten to live in it a little longer. And having Krypton, I feel like, was a nice pair of Man of Steel and other things. And it just felt a world that made sense. All right. The Phantom Zone. Levi, what version of the Phantom Zone would be in your universe? We're going with the Smallville Phantom Zone. Okay. Desert with the wind-blowing sand at all times. It feels the most like a prison of the Phantom Zones we actually see more of than just them going into it.
Well, I mean, there's a lot of different and interesting Phantom Zones. Like, I contemplated the Krypton Phantom Zone from that show because of the way that time existed in that one. That was really cool. The way they kind of saw through the dimension. But you see that in comics, too. And then the non-corporealness of the comics. But also, they do a lot of things in there that kind of contradict themselves. You never know. I mean, we talked about that in the last days of Lex Luthor.
just supposedly can do to manifest material bodies. So, I mean, the version that I went with was Smallville as well. I did like the idea of the desolate place where time doesn't matter and people kind of exist there, as well as the disembodied quote-unquote phantoms. All right. I chose the Krypton version.
Because I really like just the colors, the way, the time. And he's like looking through and he has no sense of perception of anything. So, all right. Papa Jarrell. I'm going to start with Levi. I mean, for me, Jarrell has never been better than when Russell Crowe played him. I mean, I think for me, at least that's the definitive Jarrell. And maybe it's because... What about when Tom Welling got to play Joe?
Nope, I don't count it because he was supposed to be a younger... I only say that was Tom Welling because he was seeing it through his own eyes because he does not look like a young Julian Sands. God, no. No, I'd go Russell Crowe, I think. Not only do we see him kind of be smart and the Don Quixote of Krypton, but we also get to see him be a bit of a badass. All right, James. Man, there's so many versions.
And I mean, yeah, if we went live action, I definitely go with Russell Crowe. But I also like the animated series, Jor-El. Wow. Christopher McDonald. Yeah. But that actor, though, in that role would seem a little weird if it were played live action wise. But, you know, just the way that he was the scientist. But he fought for Krypton all the way to the end. Fought for. So, yeah, I think I want to go with the animated series. All right. I went with.
Jarrell as Russell Crowe with a close runner up to the guy who played the original Jarrell for like three seconds. Whose name I can't remember at the moment. Hold on. I will. Wrong button. I will bring it up here. Hold on. Share screen. This guy right here. The second best Jarrell because every other version of Jarrell tries to be like Marlon Brando, which I can't stand. And yeah, so that is Jarrell.
All right. Lara. And mind you, mine was Jarrell before, but I decided that I was like, you said like from comics and everything. I was like, well, then I'm just going to build whatever world. So things might change as I go down the list. And nobody's picking Bradley Cooper. Let's just be honest. Yeah. Not picking Bradley Cooper. And if we all picked Russell Crowe and I'm blanking on her name right now for Man of Steel. I can't say it. Yeah, I can't say it either. All right. Who didn't pick Laura for Man of Steel? Raise your hand.
I'll do one different. We'll go Laura from Superman and Lois. Okay. I would take that as a good second. I like what they did with her. Yeah. You know, we could even show some love to Helen Slater in Smallville. If that's what you choose. All right. No. So. All right. We got our letter. Now, our rocket ship. Which version of the rocket ship did you go with, Levi? You know, I was just pulling it up because.
So many of them are just kind of that weird crystalline ice, and then you've got the Man of Steel ball on the end of a stick. We're going to go with the Superman Earth-1 ship. Oh, nice. I'm trying to find a good shot of it, and I can't, but it's almost got this horn, bullhorn design to it. Okay, okay. James, what rocket ship are you watching? I mean, when it comes down to it, the main factor is, for me, the transportation...
transport method, you know, and, and like transporting through a wormhole in man of steel is kind of one of my, you know, if he's floating out there for three years, I mean, technically he doesn't have to eat, but I don't know. He just left, he just left the planet like that. He's just supposedly sustained through either stasis or like solar. Or a combination of both for three years, you know, before he reaches Earth. So going through the Phantom Zone, no matter what design to go with, because I like a couple of different designs, but it's definitely the Man of Steel. All right. I went with Smallville. I like the Smallville because it's kind of got that cool shape of like a ship. So I went with Smallville. Yeah. All right. I like the ship in Absolute Superman, you know?
counting down the time, talking with Kal-El the whole time. I thought of that. You know what I mean? So I thought of that too. I thought of that too, but I had already done my PowerPoint here. Alright, so the next one is, would you have any other Kryptonians alive? And if so, what version? We'll start with Levi. Other Kryptonians, we'll keep it basic. We'll go Zod, Baora, and Kyra. We'll keep it to three others.
And versions, Man of Steel for Zod and Peora, and the Woman of Tomorrow version from the comic that they're doing for Supergirl. Okay. James? I mean, you know, other Kryptonians, I do like having Supergirl around. And then, like, maybe a few criminals, whatnot, in the Phantom Zone.
And there's so many aspects. You know, Kandor, do we count that as well? You know, Model City, do we count that? But just as ones that he can definitely interact with, you know, like a Supergirl. And Zod, Faora, you know, some criminals, that type of stuff. Some villains. All right. So for my trim roll. Boom. Right here. The Melissa Benoist Supergirl.
Jason Bayer, Zarell, and the great Allura being played by previous Lois Lane, Erica Grants. Why? Because Zarell hasn't got a lot of great coverage. Okay, no, that makes sense, actually. No, I like that list right there. Because I don't like Zarell on Smallville, great actor, but no, I didn't like Zarell in the Supergirl movie.
I'm excited for David Krimholtz, though, to see what he brings. It's this time of year, I'm about to watch the Santa Claus and see me some Bernard. Our next is Smallville. What is your Smallville like? What Smallville town style? Smallville. Smallville, the TV show. Yeah, it's Smallville, the TV show. It's absolutely Smallville, the TV show.
It just seems like there's a bit more of community there. With Superman and Lois, we did get a bit of a dying Smallville. Kind of one of those where people just stay because that's where they were from kind of thing. Yeah. Alright, so my next question is, what kit farmhouse and farm would you choose? Smallville. Smallville. I actually went with Superman Returns for the house and farm. I actually liked it. Yeah.
I like because it feels out more. The house feels bigger and everything. So I chose Superman Returns. Now, what version of Ma? What Ma you got, Levi? Give you one guess. Smallville. And Neto Tool. And Neto Tool is just so good in the role. And it's probably because we got the most time with her. True, true. James? I went with Neto Tool. Ready for this? Boom!
Oh, look at that. I went with animated series, Martha. And to follow it up with animated series, Pa. Just because I really like that. First of all, Pa is voiced by BJ Honeycutt from MASH. And the voice actors of Ma and Pa are husband and wife in real life. And I love the Christmas episode. Comfort and joy. So I went with this Ma and Pa. Nice. Now, who's your Pa, James? I mean...
There's a couple of paws that I like. I mean, well, there's not a whole lot of them around. Most of them die. But going with Aneto Tool, I mean, John Schneider, they went really great together. But he's not going to die in my universe. So we're still going to have Ma and Pa on the farm. Sweet. As he's older. There we go. What about you, Levi? We'll go slightly controversial in the fandom. We're going to go with Kevin Costner's. Oh, no. I like the lessons he was trying to teach because I have media literacy.
Now, what's your school mascot? I went with the Smallville Crows because I'm blanking on what it was in Superman and Lois and what it was in Superman 2025. It was something different, but I like the Crows better. I think that's a perfect mascot for the show and for Smallville, period. Now, what friends of Clark and what versions would you be bringing into Smallville? Here, I'll go ahead and share mine so you guys know what's up with mine. Are you ready? Boom.
I got Mr. Kyle Cushing. I got TJ White. I got Smallville's Pete Ross. I got Christy Beppo. I got Whitney Fordman because everyone needs an antagonist. And I got Superboy's Lana Lang because Stacey Hydeck is like the only comic accurate Lana Lang that we've had in live action. I mean, Annette O'Toole would be before her older version in the movie. But Annette O'Toole played the older version, not the younger version. But I'm going with Stacey.
I can tell you Allison Mack won't be in my small bell. There is no Chloe Sullivan. Chloe Sullivan is who? I was always partial to Chloe, but that is a tough one, you know? Yep. I mean, I like your list. It's, yeah, it's what versions do you want? And, I mean, that's what? That's the only version of Pete we got, right? No, there's a Pete and Man of Steel. Oh, yeah. I'd say, give me the small bell versions, and Chloe Sullivan just doesn't exist. I don't know who that is.
I'm good with Stacy for Lana. Perfect. Sam Jones, I like Pete Ross until he dips out and everything. Maybe this time he sticks around. It's our universe. We do whatever we want. He sticks around. He stays. Maybe even becomes vice president. Oh. Okay. This is our version of the universe. We got Kristen, Lana. They do the on again, off again one time. Then we get four years of them just being really good friends. Good.
now we're gonna move on to metropolis the city of tomorrow what city film or whatever would you use as the background for your metropolis i actually had a kind of in my head i was kind of battling actually two different versions one an animated version and one in live action okay what's your animated version i was thinking of superman man of tomorrow okay and it's very it's very very futuristic right and that's kind of what i was thinking of it but i mean it's like the city of tomorrow but I don't think it's the city of, like, that far tomorrow until after Brainiac gets a hold of it. Yeah. And then it might be something like that. Well, Levi, what do you choose for the representation of your Metropolis? I was battling animated versus live action, too. And then I'm partial to live action, so we're going to go Superman Returns because it's got a lot of the Art Deco style theming that the animated series already had. So we'll go Superman Returns, Metropolis. All right.
Yeah, I mean, you know, you get a bit of that feeling in Superman with the Metropolis there, but we don't spend a whole lot of time there outside of buildings or anything. I mean, it would definitely be between Animated Series and Superman Returns for the Metropolis. Unless, you know, Metropolis is that one block that we see all the time with the phone booth on the corner. That would be Smallville's. But no, I would definitely say the look of it, Superman Returns. Okay, I went.
Because I'm from Ohio with Superman 2025 in Cleveland to represent Ohio. There you go. Okay? And Jerry and Joe. I like it. I did. Just saying, James. Well, they also had the Hall of Justice, which is in Ohio, Tyler. If we could have just spent a bit more time on the ground. Oh, no. I mean, most of Metropolis.
It looked good, even the skyline. It did. It looked good. Yeah, I agree. I would have liked a little bit more in Metropolis, him interacting. Okay, so what are your police characters? Any police characters you would bring in? Any certain characters or characterizations? I'm going to go with the death of Superman, Maggie Sawyer. You mean this one? That one. And I went with animated series Dan Turpin. Yeah.
You get to spend more time with animated series Dan Turpin, but either way. I go with Dan Turpin and Maggie Sawyer, both from Death of Superman. All right. What about you, Levi? Yeah. I didn't know their names, so we'll go with the Death of Superman cops because those are the only ones I can really think of we actually see. This is my favorite. Maggie Sawyer was on Smallville. She was on Supergirl, but I like this version better for a little bit of time to get her. All right. The Daily Planet. I'll let you guys go first. What is your favorite version of The Daily Planet?
What do you choose for your universe? What daily planet? Smallville. I feel like the smallville one. We spend a lot of time in there. We spend the, was it seasons seven and eight between different characters in the basement. And then as they get promoted, we see them move up. It's five through 10 physically in the daily planet. So, okay, James, man, I would, for the look of the, the newsroom and everything, because everybody we're going to put in there is going to be the same rounded out, you know, cast. I mean, maybe not people like, like,
personal choice characters but um superman returns my man that's what i went with because the art deco and the style i think it's it's my favorite looking daily planet yeah it's very like artsy it's very big it's it's got a mini daily planet globe at the entrance yep um so like that is a worldwide circulating newspaper right there yes all right who is your perry white starting with levi man, I coin flip between Wendell or Lawrence Fisher. I mean, they're both, I think in the little bits we've seen of them, I think are like spot on Perry white. Okay. So it's a two face coin flip. What about you, James? I'm going to go with my adventures of Superman, Perry white. Oh, nice. I like, I love the, the, the stern thing, the slam the door and you're gone.
This one took me a while, but I actually ended up going with... I almost threw Solomon in here, by the way, just for fun. Oh, nice. But I went with Wendell because I actually liked the little he was given. I like everything he did. Lawrence Fishburne I like in Man of Steel. Not so much how he acts in PBS because I feel like they don't give him enough time to grow. I hate Frank Langella. Michael McKeon really never got to get into being Perry White. I don't like Perry White from The Adventures of Superman. Lane Smith is good, but...
Some of the Elvis stuff just wears on me. See, I don't think we need Lawrence Fishburne to grow this character, though. BVS Lawrence Perry White's there to deliver one-liners, and they are golden. Lab doesn't know what this is. It's called a bullet. I mean, that's great. I love that. But it's just kind of like how he treats Clark and some of his stuff. Yeah, I think Clark is a disabordinate employee in that movie. Clark is given assignments and does completely whatever he wants instead. I mean, that's true, too.
Like we've speculated, do they know? If he knows that he's Superman out there doing his thing and he's still there in the office giving him his shit, he's like, this is your job. I understand you're out there doing all that, but you're writing for this paper. You write what I tell you to write. I just think of BBS when he's like, I opened up your Dropbox to find the copy. There's no copy.
Like, Clark should have been fired in that movie by the end of it. I think that could have been a plot point we've never discussed. That's why he was dead. It's like, oh, he beat the rap. He died before he got fired. The latest scene of Perry turning up the pink slip. Oh, that would have been awesome. All right. Jimmy Olsen. Do you even have a Jimmy Olsen? If so, what Jimmy Olsen? BVS. No, kidding. I'll go with the new movies version.
i'm partial to live action stuff and the only other one that i think was particularly great was the smallville one but then are we doing the one that was introduced in the last 30 seconds of the finale or the one that doomsday killed so we'll go we'll go superman 2025 with the getting his own show dc crime james Right. Well, I mean, it's either Skylar or Flamebird. I don't, you know, that's, that's a tough one. It really is. Jimmy is fantastic in my adventures with Superman. Yes, he is. Like, like chef's kiss. So good. I'm going with my adventures. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I might have to go with my adventures. I mean, Skylar is, is like a perfect live action Jimmy. But that, that dynamic that he has with, with Clark and Superman for my adventures is just, I mean, it's great.
All right, here's the tough one. I can't wait for season three. Here's your tough one, Lois Lane. And I'm sitting here thinking about this, and it's like, man, if we're doing a young Superman, it's definitely Erica Durant. If we're doing Superman who's been around for a while, it's Bitsy. So I'm going to go Bitsy, because I think, to me, she's the best Lois we've ever had. I mean, there's no wrong answer, you know? I mean, honestly, there is. There is, but there isn't. There is, but there isn't. There's two that we can really debate, but...
Yeah, and that's Man of Steel and Superman Returns. And not necessarily her from Man of Steel, just the overall character from the series. Goodness. Lois Lane would be the hardest to choose, or is the hardest to choose, because there are so many great ones. Let me go with Terry. All right. Nice. I wrestled with this one.
I wrestle with this one a lot, just like we are now. And I eventually was just like, okay. And I picked Rachel because I'd like to see more of what she does with Lois. So that's kind of where I ended up with that one because I knew I wouldn't pick. I don't think anybody we even would have invited on would have picked either of those, really. Maybe Amy. Yeah, maybe. Now, what about the Lane family?
but you have the Lane family, and if so, what versions? Just the General and Michael Ironside, I mean. Okay, okay. I mean, you don't get more intimidating than Michael Ironside. Yeah, I mean, is the General great in the Superman and Lois show? Like, yeah, he's fantastic. It's a great actor. There's a lot of great scenes with him, but he's no Michael Ironside. Boom, where's my mystery? And then if we do, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna pick Terry as Lois, and I'm gonna pick Terry as her mother. Yeah, Terry as Lois' mom, and Jenna Dewan as Lucy.
and it's the Jenna Dewan technically from Supergirl as Lucy, and then the General from My Adventures. Nice. It's who I went with. Yeah. All right, now, what Clark do you have? Now, you can be a different Superman and a different Clark. This is our own weird universe, so what Clark do you have? Tyler. I mean, we've talked at nauseam about our love of Clark Kent, and I've always picked Tyler on here. I think his Clark is just...
just enough awkward to make it believable without being the bumbling idiot that people expect. I'm going to share mine real quick because I'm going to explain. I chose Tyler, but I chose Tyler from Supergirl where we see him because he's a little bit different because I love the scene where he first introduced and he's like, yes, Mr. White. Of course, Mr. White. That is my Clark Kent. He carries that over to Superman Lois, but there's a little bit more tweaks here because we actually see this Clark having to pretend to be more of the Clark persona.
than Superman and Lois, so this is my Clark. I think that's still a good Clark. I think Tyler just nails every aspect of Clark. Yeah, I think by Superman and Lois, he kind of just has it nailed, where it's almost just, he's just naturally awkward as being an outsider and hiding for his entire life, and he nails it. You know? Yeah, it's Tyler.
And from Superman and Lois. And at that point, he's even older in his life. You know what I mean? As in Supergirl, yeah, he's Superman. He's been around. But how long has he been around besides a handful of years at that point? So he's still kind of maybe even more of that bumbling Clark at the office than he is by the time he's like an older version of himself, also in a different universe, completely isolated and alone for his entire life. The next is the Daily Planet staff. Who would you have on the rest of your staff and what versions?
I'm going to go with a cop-out and just copy the entire staff from the movie. Except Pat Grant's going to be a little more covered up in this one. So speaking of covered up, look at the awkward placement of my Ron Troop fan. Nice. So I'm going with Flip from My Adventures. I'm going with Sydney from the musical play that I directed. I'm going with Max from the musical play that I directed. I'm going with Steve Lombard from the new movie, Ron Troop from the new movie, and Cat Grant from the new movie, which is now a personal close friend of Sayla's. After they met and Sayla got her signature shirt and everything, so now they're buddy buddies. That's awesome. She's going to be at Fantasticon in Toledo in March.
There you go. She is a very, very petite lady. I got to say, this is my favorite version of Lombard 2. The casting for Lombard in the movie was so spot on. The only thing about the movie's casting that makes me mad is we did not get more of them. Yeah. So I'm going to keep Cat Grant, and then I'm going to take Ronnie Troop and Steve Lombard for my adventures. All right. And of course, I like the newsboy Legion. Yeah.
So, all right. The next category is, who is your Lex? This is like trying to pick a favorite child. Oh, I got that done. I'm just playing. I don't listen to the episodes. Levi's got that done. Yeah, we're one and done. Favorite Lex, let's go Rosenbaum. Or Lex from the universe, we're going to go Rosenbaum. I don't think there's a wrong answer to this unless you pick Scott Wells. I mean, you better have a dang good argument for that. James is rethinking his list. James is like, ruins my whole thing.
I mean, yeah, it's Michael Rosenbaum. I definitely would like to see more of the actual genius aspect come from him. I wrestled him with this. That was the only little thing about that Lex version. That's the only little thing. It was always everybody who worked for him, for the most part. You know what I mean? That's what it always was. He's a Steve Jobs Lex Luthor. He's really good at coming up with an idea and finding the people to execute it.
that's a good way of putting it right i mean being that rich and having corporations you have to have the people who do this stuff you know what i mean but also he's supposed to be like smarter than them anyways he's just got other jobs and obviously other machinations i will say like a 1b for me would be the uh version from the most recent dc animated universe you know like with the death and return that lex luther because he's got like all the snark you want lex luther that is a genius lex luther And he does get the power suit and get his hands dirty at different points. So I wrestled with this one and I thought I knew what I wanted. And then some time it passed when I first drafted this. And I'm going to go with John Shea.
from lois and clark because i feel like he's the only lex that really proves that he can kind of play the political game in the sense of uh getting away with stuff and being suave and charming and not just an arrogant douche all the time like we see that more of his love and likability to the public compared to just always being the side that superman sees right see now it's like like so this is our universes you know i mean so it's like michael rosenbaum how how often did he get his hands dirty and walk away scot-free. You know what I mean? Because he made the evidence point in different directions, all kinds of different stuff. But we got that version with a version of Nicholas Holtz, who is this mad genius who created a pocket universe. You know what I mean? And all that other stuff. What else is that version even capable of? See, Nick Holtz is who I was kind of leaning towards, but I would like to have seen more of him interacting with the general public and people, like business people, other than just being on TV.
I really thought his was going to have that Superman birthright aspect of like, oh yes, I hold this daily lottery. Yes. With the shape of the Luther court building. That's where I thought that was heading. Same. I expected a little bit more of his interaction with just the general people and we saw him loved now. Well, they'll definitely have to go that route if they ever want to make Nicholas Holt president. What are we looking at as far as Lex's family? Are they alive? They all dead? Just Lex? What we got? They're all dead, but his dad was definitely the Lionel from Smallville.
And he pushed him out a window? I was going to say, he pushed him out a window, but no one knows. Sweet. Yeah, I mean, I think that they should all be dead. I mean, is there a potential for maybe Alina, like a daughter, later on? You know? But that might be cool, but not as a sister.
daughter only Osmandias style from the Watchmen show where he has no idea that he has a daughter because the maid stole the necessaries. Here we go. I have Lex having three siblings and a nephew. He's got Lena, Lutessa, Lucas, and the nephew Lenny. He's got to keep at bay because they annoy the crap out of him.
Thanksgiving, and his father's passed on. You know what? If his father was Lionel from Smallville, it would still be cool to have a Lutessa and a Lucas out there. Yeah. All right. Hench people. Henchmen. Who you got? I got Mercy from the comics, because that woman, she's some sort of bionic and indestructible, and Otis from Supergirl. Okay, okay. As a close henchman, you know? Yeah, yeah, I do.
All right, Levi, what you got? We'll go with... What's her name? I think it's Mercy. She's in the recent Superman run with Supercorp when Lex gives over Luthorcorp to Superman. Yeah, that's Mercy. Yeah, Mercy. We'll go with her. And we'll go with Otis from the new movie because he seems to be one of the few competent Otises we've ever come across.
I'm going with Mercy from the recent comics. Otis from Supergirl where he was Mercy's brother. I'm going to go with Nigel from Lois and Clark. And then I'm going to go with Eve Tesmacher from Supergirl because she was psycho. She actually pulled a gun and would do anything for Lex. She's like the wild card that you don't expect. You think she's all nice and bubbly until she's holding a gun to your head.
That's my hench people. Anyone else that you would add from Metropolis to your universe? We need a good Bibbo Bukowski somewhere. Oh, you mean like this Bibbo? Do you have him with the Ace of Space? Oh, you don't have his joint behind him? What the hell? Nope. The Death of Superman is my favorite Bibbo, and that's the type of version I want to see brought to life. It would have been cool if Ali could have been that from the new movie, and then Lex had to go play Russian Roulette with him. Yeah.
All right. So now to the big one, Superman himself. All right. What Superman do you have? What version of the Superman do you have? Levi, besides Henry Cavill, who you got? Besides Henry? No, I'm just joking. So mine here, I'll tell you mine. Yeah, I got mine is Tyler Superman, but he's in the David Cornswit suit. You know, I'm going to stick with Henry and we'll go suit since you went there too. We're doing the Justice League suit, but specifically in the scenes that were shot by Zack Snyder. None of the Joss Whedon ones. Okay. Respect.
Go watch the Justice League. There's a very clear difference between the suit. Yes, very clear. One's green and one's blue. It's something. Alright, James, what you got? Man, Superman would just be an amalgam of all different points from a bunch of different Superman. But no, it's Henry Cavill, Superman.
And I would like to see a cool live-action rebirth suit. All right. All right. Now, what Fortress of Solitude are you bringing to your universe? It can be debatable if it's considered the fortress. I consider it the fortress. I love the scout ship.
Okay, I thought you were about to say Clark's barn in Smallville. I considered it. That was a choice. That was an option. I wanted to call it that at one point. I know. That's why I was like, I'll allow it. I really like the scout ship. I like the design of it. I think sometimes we get these sci-fi... Because we've talked about Man of Steel truly being at its core. It's a sci-fi movie. And sometimes we get these sci-fi movies where it's like, here's an alien ship that feels very human. And I don't think the Man of Steel scout ship feels human.
at all like that was very alien design to me and it's different than like the giant ice fortress that is the current superman go to yeah um and and my i i that was in consideration for me as well because it would have um living capabilities you know um place to potentially sleep maybe eat or something you know um because what did kryptonians have to do how often did they ever get powers out in the universe you know what i mean and if they did get powers out in the universe if they ever got powers out in the universe would they um would they have stopped colonizing out in space you know what i mean so i don't think so also it's mobile yeah so i mean they it's it's a in my opinion, it's a really cool idea for the scout ship, uh, for the scout ship to be the fortress. And I always wanted that to be the case. Um, that's what it was. It just never got around. It never even got to be. Yeah. But it never even got to be that. Um, but, uh, I went for the fortress. I went with, um, the new fortress from Superman. Uh, there was.
they at least made it that it was useful for certain things. There's different places to go. He could have more facilities to explore. Yeah. Yeah. They made it like, we just stayed in like the, the living room of the fortress, you know, or the workshop, the primary workshop or lab for the fortress or something like that's where we stayed. I went with super girls. Yeah. That one was pretty sick too. Yeah. It's big and it's open and it's, it's pretty sweet.
Technically, didn't she always joke it was Clark's, but he just seemed to always be off-planet in Superman? Yes. Yes, it was. Why don't we see Superman? He's off-planet again. Would you have robots in your fortress? A year ago, I would have said no, but after the movie, I actually loved the idea of Superman having these robot butlers. I would do both from the movie, from 2025's movie, but also the one that we saw shortly in Supergirl TV series.
Yeah. And that was my thought is like the one in Supergirl, the TV series, a Kelex. Yep. Yeah. And that's what I've got is, is like a Kelex. I was Supergirl, the TV series or the comic book, you know, we've, we've read Kelex doing a lot, given John Henry and Natasha a lot of help and learning some new lingo with them. All right. Next question. Would you have crypto? Yes or no? And what version?
I lean towards no because Krypton having dogs that look exactly like our foxes that we should just never sat right with me. But if there was a Krypto, it's the Krypto from the new movie because he's the best worst boy. See, that's why I like Krypto in the sense of like Titans, where it's a regular dog that was experimented on with Kryptonian touch. Yeah. But if I had Krypto, yes, it would actually be Krypto from Super Pets, the movie.
That's the Crypto I picked. Crypto from Super Pets. He's such a good dog. No matter what he gets into, his attitude, he is straight-laced. He is such a good dog. And he doesn't smell. He doesn't stink. He doesn't destroy everything. He's not at risk of killing the cows. His poop smells like sandalwood. Exactly. Would you have Superboy? If so, what version? I don't think so. I don't think Superboy is... You have to have a really good reason to introduce Superboy. And this is my universe, and I don't have a good reason to introduce him at this point. Respect.
James? I like Superboy. I like the wild sci-fi, so I want to have a Superboy. I would like to see it be, you know, I would like to see him run through a bit of the stuff, you know, kind of be the young spirited kid early on and then go through like the Titans Lex Luthor phase. I chose Superboy, yes, and I chose Josh from Titans, that style. So the Titans TV series Superboy.
Now, would your world have any other heroes in it? I'm just going to go ahead and throw mine up here because I actually have a contradictory of mine. But you know what? It's okay because I'll explain. Boom. My world would have other heroes. And here they are. And here's the versions that they are. And my Supergirl is actually from a parallel Earth. Millie is here too. I have two Supergirls in my universe. I got Jon Stewart from the New Lantern Show.
It's like a fan art thing. I couldn't find a good photo. I got Britain's Thwaites Robin paired with the Batgirl, the movie that never happened. Or if we're talking about the future, how you could do the fan cast of Maya Park. No. I'm going with the Leslie Grace Batgirl.
The Pattinson Batman with The Batmans, Jim Gordon. I got Barry Allen The Flash from The Flash TV series. I got Cyborg from Justice League. I got Martian Manhunter from Zack Snyder's Justice League. I got Wonder Girl from Titans. Mr. Terrific from Superman. Hawkman from Black Adam. Wonder Woman from Justice League action. So that is my other heroes in my universe. Mine has other heroes. I did not give it as much thought as you did.
except that it is doomsday clock style where no matter what happens, the superhero age always seems to start with Superman's arrival on earth. I like that. I've always liked that too. I think it's important. Nice. Yeah. James, any other heroes you add to your world? Um, let's throw a Pierce Brosnan's Dr. Fate in there. Yeah. Yeah. Could even do Odette fairs. Um, Dr. Fate. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be a cool one. Uh,
Let me see. Who from the Young Justice cast do I need in there? Hit Flash. Wally. Let's bring Wally back. Let's finally bring Wally back. Let's do that. Villains. Here are my villains. I have Joomsday from the Death of Superman. Darkseid from Zack Snyder's Justice League. Bizarro from Superboy. Twinman from the Animated Series. Silver Banshee from Young Justice. Ultraman from Superman 25. Metallo from Supergirl.
Brainiac from Injustice 2, the video game. Mr. Mix's Pitilick from the Inmate series. Nuclear Man from Superman 4. The Music Meister from Supergirl and the Flash crossover. Livewire from Supergirl. Drawing a blank on the villainess who was like Brainiac that Laura Vandervoot played in Supergirl. Wow, my brain is killing me. Rudy Jones from the Inmate series. And then the Professor from Superman the musical that I directed.
Hey, he was a great villain. He was a great villain. I can attest to that. Professor Sedgwick. So those are the villains that plague my Superman. Nice. For Ultraman, I'm definitely going a different Earth Ultraman. And I'm not sure if I want to do like a comic book, like Forever Evil, or if I want Crisis on Two Earths. Because I like that Ultraman. He's pretty ruthless. Definitely an Earth-3 Ultraman. That's my Ultraman. All right. All right.
Any other, any villains or anything you want to add? You gotta add Mongol, I think. For sure, we gotta have Mongol, War World. We had talked about Zod in the Phantom Zone. Is it Michael Shannon, Zod? Ooh, okay, okay. Yeah, see, I didn't put Zod or Ursa or Naan in mine, because I'm just kind of like, I'm very tired of those characters. Right. Unless I put Ursa and Fae War together. But even then, I was like, mm, nah.
I was tired of him. And the last slide... You know what would be funny, though, is because of the incorporeal phantoms in the Smallville Phantom Zone, you can have, like, say it was Faora with Zod on Krypton, and they got disembodied, and Faora went into Ursa. They're together. There you go. My last slide is any other characters you would add. And I would add Rick Flag from Superman, The Bride from Creature Commandos, and Waller.
And I put Waller from My Adventures because I think she's pretty awesome as far as Waller goes. She's very in the action. What about you guys? Anybody else you'd throw in there? G.I. Robot. I'm adding John Kent. I love when Superman went to War World and John took over as Superman. I'm not adding that version of John yet, but we'll add a nine-year-old John that we can grow into that version at some point.
I love that. Perfect. That made me very, very angry. Very angry. Yeah. It's sad that they do so little with John Kent in the comics these days. They don't know what to do with him. Yeah, because they aged him up, and now he's just another Superman. His solo series was so good, though. They could have done so much more with that, of having him travel the multiverse and pair up with Val Zod and meet the other Superman and just went on adventures. And the best thing they've done with him in a long time was that Shazam comic. I think it was like Shazam 19 or 20.
That was the best thing I've done with him in a while that I think some writer needs to pick that up and continue with. But hey, that's our show, guys. You know, happy holidays. Merry Christmas, Levi. Thanks for being here. We built our Superman universe. We are preparing to end 2025, guys. It's coming to a wrap. Yeah. What a year. What a year. It's been a great year for Superman. And that's our next episode is our Superman 2025 recap. And that's going to be fun.
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