Good morning. Welcome to the daily with still staying through Spotify for podcasters again. I'm using my garage band Music until I figure out how to set up the music for the podcast cuz On Spotify for podcasters. We had some tools that we were able to access I don't know they're gonna bring those back or they want us to try different things because they were part of anchor FM I remember and it was a lot easier But this is pushing us to kind of get more of a feel for what we're you know trying to work at my apologies if you hear background noises I have been trying to do my podcast in a quieter scenario because I do have my kids store home and some are starting college soon And all of that but in the meantime, I have a dog.
I have family, you know the usual, but happy happy Tuesday. Good morning It is still morning for me. It's like 11 40 Around there, so I consider it morning, but in the podcast will be out today. Good morning I am still Stein.
I'm happy to be here with you and as I said, I'm doing another podcast today And probably a new another one hopefully Thursday I'm not Friday of this week with author Lori Fontaness. So shout out to the amazing Lori Fontaness and her book Stalker I hope that I don't know yet. We're doing Riverside video or audio, but she will be on the podcast I'm really excited about that and talking to her about about all things writing But today as I said, I'm gonna focus on the book by Colleen Hoover It ends with us best selling author Colleen Hoover and I'm gonna talk about the book and the talk about the movie a little bit and then I'm gonna go into But but first sorry but first sorry, I'm kind of dabbling my words today I'm gonna talk about all about perspectives perspectives and novels and this is taken by author Nathan Bransford. I was given this blog and and advice when I did my Rough draft very rough draft her battered mine Through an editor at Reed Z missed out or Rachel Stout.
She's amazing And she advised me to look into these you know these blogs and kind of go into everything I need to do for for my book because it's a lot of stuff that I have in the book and And I have taken that advice and that's why it's taken me I even longer to do it But I'm very grateful for this because Nathan Bransford really Gives you a lot of tools in perspectives and novels and and what to do and I'm gonna go over those And I really really do recommend you getting how to write a novel by Nathan Bransford I just got it on Kindle and I've been reading it and it's amazing. So that's another book I recommend today, but I'm gonna start off first with all about perspectives of novels That's what we're gonna discuss first and I hope that again, you're enjoying your Tuesday. Good morning I know some of you are already back at work back in school. Some of the students are back in shout out to all the teachers staff parents Students that are back in school.
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I hadn't really thought about until I really went into and dove into What Rachel had given me and her commentary of the of the editing and shout out to her? She's on Reed Z Rachel stout. I hope she doesn't mind that I you know give her a big shout out on the podcast But I want it you all to be clear. She was also a literary agent She does really good editing and the prices I think she works with you And she's she's amazing and that's through Reed Z.
So I'll put all that on there as well in this post I'll talk about why it's important to have a consistent perspective. We're gonna talk about consistency is key that that's that's the first one and Then I'm gonna go into an overview of perspectives in the novels the types of novel perspectives And how to choose a perspective. I'm gonna go a little bit into each of them And then I may have another show where I focus a little bit more on them But it says consistency is key. It says an overview of the different perspectives you can employ he talks about that how to choose Your perspective and then there they'll be more of the pros and cons of the different perspectives That'll be a probably another show tips for each type of perspective and tips for changing perspective within a novel And I don't know if I'll be able to maybe at one another point You know, I know mr.
Bransford is probably very very busy But it may be one day he could at least answer some questions or be on the podcast. I'll throw that out there I'm not saying he will but you never know right because I found this really really interesting consistency is key Let's be honest the perspectives and novels. He says is weird That's what he writes in real life We don't have the ability to see the world to another person's eyes or over one person's shoulder while being able to read their mind Or from up from up above with the ability to divine whatever you want in a room is thinking and yet for something is That is so inherently weird. He says and devoid of real life and analogs There are some surprisingly basic things that you really need to get right about a novel's perspective a novel's perspective needs to be consistent To so a reader knows where to situate themselves within a scene Think about how confusing it is to start a novel You're essentially starting in a completely dark room and the writer then starts to fill in details and slowly instead I'll be bringing the world to life and this is all taken from mr.
Nathan Bransford's dot com website It's much easier to contextualize what you're seeing if you know where to situate your Consciousness within the novel are we in one person's head looking down on the scene from above looking over someone's shoulder with the ability to read their thoughts It can be any of these approaches. It just can't be this one It's completely disorienting to head jump to head jump from one character to another and he says head jumping means you have to constantly Re-contextualize whose perspective you're seeing be events from and constantly reevaluate your understanding of a scene is exhausting Confusing mental labor don't make the reader do it. That's at least that's what he advises instead Choose a perspective and stick with it. The reader will settle in like a happy passenger So that's one of the advices and that was we're talking here about consistency is key That's what he's saying and this is from nape n bransford's dot com all about perspectives and novels and I was told that about mainly For my new book battered mine The editor said you know you need to be consistent but mainly Pick a perspective and choose one and work on your timeline That's also very important of a timeline the consistency of the time That's just my own additional note to that and I'll probably go further into that in another show and here We're moving on to an overview of perspectives and novels.
Okay. Let me go back to Okay, an overview of perspectives and novels. This is also from nape n bransford's dot com first There are two main tenses you need to choose between and this is something that gets me and a lot of probably a lot of other writers people that have you know that have already published and You know like you know whether it's a writer who's starting out or an author who was published and you know matter what if you start writing You're in my book. You're already you know of established you're establishing yourself as an author That's just my own opinion on that anyway.
Here we go. We have he says past tense and present tense past tense He said I said is a more classic approach whereas ten present tense He says I say can feel more modern and convey a bit more in immediacy whichever one you choose is up to you, but there's really only one rule stick with the one you choose So when writers jump around with timelines, which is my my my issue They sometimes use present tense to denote the present timeline and past tense to denote the past timelines anything can be made To work, but this usually ends up being pretty confusing just stick to one tense at least that's his advice on that So let's dive in here types of novel perspectives. You have a few next you'll need to choose your overall perspective Here are your choices first person told from a specific narrator's perspective I did this I did that second person written as if the narrative happens from the reader's perspective or as if it's a Conversation with an invisible character. You did this you did that dirt limited third person limited tied to one character starts and Perspectives at a time if the perspective shifts it's almost as if the camera is handed to another character He did this she did that but he wasn't sure why she did what she did and a third person I'm Kind of like a gods I perspective some sometimes this means on an all-seeing narrator who is almost another character other times It's just a dispassionate voice describing thoughts and actions.
He did this. He did that he was thinking this she was thinking that now And it can be a little confusing so how to choose your perspective Well, you may be starting the whole novel writing process with a strong preference for which type of perspective you want to employ In which case congrats move straight on to the tips below So this is where I'm gonna I'm gonna go into this and then we'll probably do another show where I continue on this But mr. Brandt's were continues by saying if you're having a hard time choosing here are some tips Consider the constraints of the different perspectives with first person and third person limited It's difficult to show things happening outside of your character's eyesight with third person omnisense It's sometimes tricky to build a sense of deep connection with a particular character Think through these limitations think about how many characters you want to anchor to that's the second tip First one was consider the constraints of the different perspectives if you want to show events Through more than two or three characters you probably want to go third person rather than first It starts to feel unwieldy and confusing to have too many first person narrators thrown into the mix and then see what feels natural That's the third tip try out a few scenes in a different way in different ways and see what feels right to you Chances are one approaching is just going to feel like the right one So and then he gives a list here for further reading he gets first person versus third person You can click on the little link and it'll take you to there and it'll give you more advice on that and then third person omniscient omniscient versus limited versus head jumping so it gets really good tips in here and I think that you should check out Nathan Brandsford dot com slash or Nathan Bransford dot com and it'll probably pop up all his sites and his it's Nathan and ATH AN Brandsford B.R.A.N.S. F.O.R.D And then he has his Jacob Wonderbar series that he started but he has two books how to write a novel and how to Publish a book so he does have another book that you can look at on there besides his Jacob Wonderbar series that it's it's like a I don't know it's middle school or but he has his books on Here through Amazon he has a space about space travel and everything so I hope you check out the books about from author Nathan Bransford Dot com But this was the writing tip section of the podcast and we'll be right back with Our featured author today, which is the best-selling author of course Colleen Hoover and Like I said, Nathan Bransford is a it is a amazing author in his own right.
Let me read a little bit more about him here. It says See if it adds any additional here Nathan Bransford writes a popular blog in Twitter feed, which is now X about writing and the publishing industry He gets more than 150,000 page views a month on this blog has more than 90,000 followers on Twitter and We'll be hosting extensive games parties and giveaways in the lead-up to publication Nathan lives in San Francisco, California And so he's got his books the Jacob Wonderbar series, so I hope you check out his his books and We'll be right back with best-selling author Colleen Hoover and the book it ends with us. So we'll be right back Hey guys, this is so be from the daily with so Stein who's Spotify for podcasters I'm and I know we're doing the podcast, but I wanted to bring about give me a second. I Wanted to bring about the fact that we have a Sorry the phone rang sorry about that that I have a Excuse me goodness, sorry about that guys real life.
I'm recording it and I'm having all these issues today, but I'm determined to finish I Have a newsletter that is tied to the daily with so Stein I hope you will subscribe to the newsletter and also you can also You know via you know as a subscriber you can also subscribe to the podcast by Through a dollar 99 if you can and I would love to give you a shout out on the podcast and also do giveaways I'm gonna start the first one in November So I hope you'll check out the podcast and now we're gonna go through our featured I'm gonna start off with our featured author for this week and that is best-selling author Colleen Hoover and here we go We're going back to and we're back to the daily with so Stein now through Spotify for podcasters and now our featured Author of the week Colleen Hoover is an American author who primarily writes novels in the romance and young adult fiction genres It says she is best known for her It says here 2016 romance novel It ends with us many of her works were self published before being picked up by a publishing house as of October 22nd Now let me go back because I believe that she published that I don't know if she republished it But I want to make sure I set the right date on the book here Okay, let me see So I thought it was published in 2019 Let's see Okay, let me see It ends with us Give me one second. Okay. Yes, it was published in August 2nd of 2016 And it is that the it ends with us. She has many many books She's written but I wanted to focus especially on this book who is a best-selling novel of course her books are all doing well But this book is an amazing book It is it's it's it's it's Colleen Hoover reminds readers that love is a fragile thing built from courage hope and tears Every person with a heartbeat should read this book Kami Garcia number one New York Times best-selling author.
That's what she writes. It ends with us isn't an ordinary love story It will break your heart with while filling your your filling you with hope and by the end of this gripping pulse pounding novel You'll be smiling through your tears Sarah Peckinan international best-selling author of perfect neighbors It ends with us is a brave and heartbreaking novel that digs its claws into you and doesn't let go long after you finished it No one delivers an emotional read like Colleen Hoover and a Todd from the New York Times best-selling author of the after series and so this book Okay, let me see Colleen Hoover is the number one New York Times best-selling author of slam this girl point of retreat Hopeless losing hope finding Cinderella maybe someday ugly love maybe not confess and no member ninth But this book is more like a real life of even though it's it's based on you know It's supposed to be a work of fiction a lot of it is based on her own Personal struggles or her mom's own personal struggles and it talks about a subject that's very delicate Which is domestic violence and she if you watch her interviews like she came out on today I saw her talking I believe it was one of the anchors on on today She was talking about you know how this you know this book, you know Was it came really full circle when she got to watch? You know not only her mom read the book But we saw the movie and the character of Lily is based on her mom's own experiences with you know with domestic violence Which is something very very hard my own mother experienced it, you know years ago And that's a subject for another day But and and she had her own experiences with not with my own father, but in general she experienced this and it was very hard You know something that you you you see and it's hard to deal with everybody's emotions is very very different and I certainly I When you're reading the book it makes you cry and then when you watch the movie and you watch the move the character of Lake Lively bring Lily to life and then you see all these other characters atlas which is one of her, you know You know when she was younger one of her loves and then rile the other you know You can say antagonist of the story in my own opinion anyway, and and you see this story and and how it comes about It's just very very it's emotional and I thought the book was amazing. I just read it.
I actually read it I think it was I want to say In 2021 big I read it until like 20 21 and because a friend of mine reached those books Liz She's been reading calling Hoover shout out to my friend Liz and I finally got to read it ends with us And now to watch it in the movie. I thought it did it really good justice I won't give any spoilers out I don't want to do that But I wanted to say that I thought that Justin Baldoni who directed the the movie after reading calling Hoover's book He said that him you know him and his wife had read it or he read it and then told his wife and then reached out to Colleen Hoover and she was very very You know gracious to she couldn't believe they wanted to do her book And I think he read she read it in 2019 and then reached out to her to work on it and then got Blake lively on board and you know Everything and and all the other characters of course And and it's just it's a story that you you know that it makes you believe that good things can happen even though through all this tragedy And and Colleen Hoover writes really good. You know I've always loved of course Jody Peacold and you know all the emotions that they bring to the you know through their stories and Colleen Hoover just has done an amazing job with this with this with this with this story Bringing these characters and I can't even imagine what it was like for her and the emotion Of having to deal with all of that and any woman or any person that is dealt with that kind of of Of those Circumstances is just I can't even say and I can't speak for you But just know that you know it's just emotional and I'm gonna read a little expert excerpt here and the perspective speaking of perspectives Because we're talking about perspectives. I hope it didn't go then.
I'll have to do two shows Sorry, I thought I had lost my my recording And I'm gonna read a little excerpt and the book in the book it is a narrative and here we go with chapter one As I sit here with one foot on either side of the ledge looking down from 12 stories above the streets of Boston Boston I can't help but think about suicide not my own I like my life enough to want to see it through I'm more focused on other people and how they ultimately come to the decision to just end their own lives Do they ever regret it in the moment after letting go in the second before they make impact? There has to be a little bit of remorse in that brief free fall Do they look at the ground as it rushes towards them and being well crap? This was a bad idea some how I think not I think about death a lot particularly today considering I just 12 hours earlier gave one of the most epic eulogies to people of plethora main have ever witnessed Okay, maybe it wasn't the most epic it very well could be considered the most disastrous I guess that would depend on whether you were asking my mother or me my mother who probably won't speak to me for a Solid year after today don't get me wrong the eulogy I delivered wasn't profound enough to make history like the one broke shields delivered at Michael Jackson's funeral or the one delivered by Steve Jobs sister or Pat Tillman's brother, but it was epic in his own way I was nervous at first it was the funeral of the Prejuduous Andrew Bloom after all a door mayor of my hometown of plethora main owner of the most successful real estate agency Within city limits husband of the highly adored Jenny Bloom the most revered Revered teaching assistant and all the plethora and father of Lily Bloom the strange girl with a erratic red hair Who once fell in love with a homeless guy and brought great shame upon her entire family? That would be me I'm Lily Bloom and Andrew was my father as soon as I finished delivering his eulogy today I caught a flight straight back to Boston and hijacked the first roof I could find again not because I'm suicidal.
I have no plans to scale off this roof I just really needed fresh air and silence and Damn it if I can't get that from my third floor apartment with absolutely no rooftop access in a roommate who likes to hear herself sing so here in the beginning and in the movie it's a little different I won't give that spoiler but Lily is angry and if you read Colleen Hoover's book you know that it's because the father was violent and You get to see this and read more about her anger through to the character and Colleen Hoover did say that the character of Lily was based on her own mother at least that's what I understood in the interview and I certainly don't want to add words and And she's dealing with all of this and the homeless guy that she's talking about you'll find out It is you know it is a character main character there and you'll find out more of the story I just like I said I don't want to give too much because in case you have not read her book or in case you have not seen the movie I certainly don't want to give away any spoilers I will however go back to it probably later on in the in the year and hopefully people would have seen the movie or read the book So I'll leave it at that But if you have not checked out Colleen Hoover's it ends with us please do it's a it's just she's the featured author of the week And of course Nathan Bransford Also check him out and his blog and his tips and I would recommend you get his book as well So at least the writing one I don't know by taking it out now or let me see let me go back So you can get that book as well Of course check out his blog Nathan Bransford calm and Then sorry, excuse me. I'm drinking my coffee. I Apologize for the if you heard that belch. Sorry about that And then it says excuse me on that.
It's the book is called How to write a novel by Nathan Bransford and of course if you want to check out the all about Colleen Hoover, I may go back and Find her I think I want to give her When you just type in Colleen C O L L E E N Hoover H O O B E R and then Let me see if she gives a website here Okay, yeah, you can Call it's please visit Colleen Hoover Dot-com to contact Colleen and her team her team's name is Stephanie Please email Hoover rank at outlook.com Colleen Hoover is the number one New York Times and international best-selling author of multiple novels and novellas She lives in Texas. I'm from Texas with her husband and their three boys. She is the founder of the bookworm Box a nonprofit book subscription service and bookstore in sulfur Springs, Texas So I hope that you'll check out all about Colleen Hoover all about also nape and bransford Dot-com and his books as well and check out his series nape and bransford N A T H A N B R A N S F O R D Dot-com and I hope you enjoyed this longer version of the daily with sillstein Through Spotify for podcasters. I will bring in another show.
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