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EPISODE · Feb 28, 2025 · 1H 55M

He Convinced Elon and Trump To Pursue a DOGE Dividend. Can He Convince Me?

from Dad Saves America · host John Papola

I sat down with James Fishback, CEO of Azoria and founder of Incubate Debate, to discuss the merits of his “DOGE Dividend” proposal. Here’s the idea—take 20% of all DOGE savings and pay them out directly to American taxpayers. After sharing his idea on X (Twitter), Elon Musk brought it to the attention of President Trump, who quickly endorsed it. I have my reservations—namely, that we can’t spare a single penny that could otherwise pay down the national debt. However, James believes that by getting Americans directly engaged in the DOGE project, we can bring them on board for a new era of fiscal responsibility._____________________________________Follow James on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/j_fishbackRead more about the DOGE Dividend: https://x.com/j_fishback/status/1891933120313663493_____________________________________Outline:[0:00] Who is James and what is the DOGE Dividend?[7:53] Running the numbers on the dividend[15:06] Is this good politics, but bad policy?[22:50] Not all deficit spending is created equal[28:13] Will this undermine Trump’s plans for tax cuts?[38:13] Wouldn’t a national snitch line just cause chaos?[43:54] Is it even possible to avoid a national debt crisis?[53:24] How are ‘public servants’ this entitled?[59:16] Cutting spending isn’t about cutting benefits[1:11:17] Economic statistics are fundamentally broken[1:18:15] Is the free trade model too simplistic?[1:33:29] What could derail the Trump administration?[1:36:51] End DEI hiring and bring back meritocracy[1:44:28] James’s work with Incubate Debate_____________________________________Watch the video version on YouTube: https://youtu.be/wQZHxNX7IgYMake a tax-deductible donation to Dad Saves America: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://secure.anedot.com/emergent-order-foundation/dad-website?⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dadsavesamerica.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get full access to Dad Saves America at www.dadsavesamerica.com/subscribe

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