EPISODE · Aug 17, 2026 · 1H 24M
He Wrote The Copy Behind 9 Figures. He Learned To Code Last Year
from Full Stack Founders · host Mike Bledsoe & Ted Phaeton
Pedro Jerez has written the copy behind nine figures of revenue and led growth at multiple eight figure companies, the largest of them from zero to $60M in three years. A little over a year ago he watched one video late at night and started vibe coding a landing page. He is now building AI native software. He is also the reason I started. I walked out of his house and did not sleep for two weeks. This is the whole conversation: how he decides what to build, the one question he uses to position anything, the memory architecture he had to invent so his agents stopped breaking his code, and the honest version of confidence he runs on, which is not "I can do this" but "I can learn this in time not to look stupid." Start here: https://bledsoe.life/start 0:00 Cold open 0:46 Who Pedro is, and why Mike wanted him on 6:06 One video, late at night, and the intimidation was gone 9:11 You don't know what you don't know until you're in the game 12:01 Don't tell the agent to fix the bug 17:56 Before AI the idea had to shrink. Now it expands 22:08 There is nothing in your way except you 24:40 I believed I could learn it in time not to look stupid 26:40 Elon read a book about rockets 31:06 He walked away from a million dollar run rate 37:33 Loving a product and using it daily are different businesses 43:15 Two friends broke his product in 15 seconds 44:06 Positioning and product-market fit are not the same question 45:56 5-Hour Energy named a moment nobody had named 47:53 Right product, right time. That's the whole test 53:39 Ted: speed scores once, routes score every time 55:33 The memory architecture ladder 62:13 The dependency map, and keeping it current 65:31 A buyer will look at this before they buy you 66:48 Planning versus execution, and his actual ratio 73:10 Ted: when do you know you've painted your last stroke? 75:52 Five months of work on the first seven days 77:40 There is no world where you can be behind Pedro is building Cochi. Waitlist at https://cochi.coach Instagram and LinkedIn: @pedroajerez #aibuilders #positioning #productmarketfit #founders
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