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EPISODE · Jun 22, 2026 · 25 MIN

Healing the Church: What Comes After Naming the Problem (Shame, Trauma & Transformation)

from The Church We Dream Of · host Kia Gutierrez

Episode Show NotesEpisode SummaryNine months in, and the Church We Dream Of podcast has never shied away from naming what is broken in the American Western church. But naming the wound is only step one. This episode is the disclaimer no one gives you before the real work starts — and it might be the most important conversation yet.Host Kia Gutiérrez, licensed professional support provider and minister, walks you through what the church healing journey actually looks like before you dive in — because if you are expecting a straight line, you will quit too soon. If you have been doing the work of American church transformation and wondering why it feels harder instead of easier, this episode is for you.In This Episode, You Will Learn:Why healing almost always feels like falling apart before it gets betterThe three emotional realities you will encounter on the path toward Christian emotional health: silence that looks like failure, fear tied to shame, and trauma responses disguised as preferencesWhy your nervous system chose shame — and why letting go of it is terrifying and necessaryHow rigid relational preferences are often trauma responses keeping us from the connection God designed us forWhat it means to put something at Jesus' feet — and why it is not about releasing control, it is about discipleshipThe difference between I am the problem and this solution is not working — and why that distinction changes everythingHow emotions and faith work together on the path toward genuine Christian communityAlso In This EpisodeKia revisits conversations from earlier in Season 1 — including interviews with Sam (living in chaos), Dr. Amanda Anderson (high-functioning shame in the church), and Billy (navigating difference in the church) — weaving them into a unified framework for what transformation requires in a trauma-informed church context.Big AnnouncementKia's book Emotions as Messengers: A Faith-Based Guide to Understanding Your Emotions to Reconnect with God, Yourself, and Others is now available for pre-order! After two months of deep writing, Kia has packaged five years of personal, professional, and faith-based therapy research into one resource designed to give you a custom roadmap — through your own emotions — for building the church you dream of.📖 Pre-order here: https://a.co/d/0h9gdKyX | Official release: July 7thKey TakeawaysThe healing journey is not linear. Disorientation is not a sign you are doing it wrong — it is a sign you are doing it at all.Shame in the church is not just a personal struggle. It is a nervous system response with deep relational and theological roots.What we call preferences are often trauma responses in disguise — and Christian emotional health requires us to know the difference.Discipleship and emotional healing are not separate tracks. They are the same road.Episodes ReferencedSam — living in chaosDr. Amanda Anderson — high-functioning shameBilly — navigating difference in the churchComing Up NextKia unpacks the first three chapters of Emotions as Messengers — the original message of emotions, how that message gets interrupted, and what she calls the redacted message.Connect With KiaSubscribe to the Church We Dream Of podcast and join the conversation about what it takes to build the church we all dream of — one honest, healing, faith-filled episode at a time.The Church We Dream Of is a faith-based podcast for those who are hurt but have not given up — on God, on the church, or on themselves.

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