Heather Smith - Moxie in the Medicine: IFS, Psychedelics, & Innate Healing Intelligence

In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily sit down with Heather Smith, founder of the Moxie School, for a rich conversation about Internal Family Systems, psychedelic facilitation, and the profound healing potential of bringing these two modalities together. Heather shares how her search for more effective tools for transformation led her first to IFS and then to psychedelic-assisted therapy—and ultimately inspired her to train practitioners in skillful, self-led facilitation.Together, they explore the relationship between parts work and expanded states, the difference between holding space and truly guiding a journey, and why psychedelic facilitators must be willing to know their own shadows before accompanying others into theirs. They also discuss the spiritual dimensions of Self energy, healing as an innate intelligence, and the delicate dance between intervention and restraint. At its heart, this conversation is an invitation to approach healing with greater curiosity, compassion, attunement, and moxie.Connect with Heather:https://moxieschool.com/About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her ⁠experience supporting others⁠ on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com⁠/About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled  "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com⁠/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers