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EPISODE · Jul 17, 2025 · 40 MIN

Heaven Rules Gospel

from Chatting With Betsy · host Betsy Wurzel

In this episode of Chatting with Betsy, Rev. John Lee Hooker Jr. returns to discuss his powerful new gospel song Heaven Rules. The track delivers a message of faith, redemption, and personal accountability, inspired by today’s world and his own spiritual journey.Rev. Hooker previously joined Betsy in February to discuss his Amazon Best Seller in the Gospel category. Today, he returns to talk about his new, soul-stirring gospel song, “Heaven Rules,” co-written with Larry Batiste.✨Heaven Rules by Rev. John Lee Hooker Jr. was inspired by today’s world—where narcissism runs high and moral clarity can feel elusive. Through powerful lyrics and a dynamic blend of preaching, singing, and rapping, the song reminds us that God is in control, worldly riches are fleeting, and Jesus is the true Judge.🎶 Betsy and Rev. Hooker discuss the personal and spiritual inspiration behind Heaven Rules, the process of creating both the song and music video, and his past experiences being nominated for a Grammy Award. Betsy was especially moved by a surprising reference to the O.J. Simpson trial, which Rev. Hooker uses to emphasize a deeper message of personal accountability, stating that “there will be no excuses when we stand before Jesus.”💿 Heaven Rules is available on all major streaming platforms, and Betsy highly recommends taking a moment to listen. She describes the song as “original, inspiring, and deeply moving.”📚 You can also purchase From the Shadow of the Blues on -Amazon   - or directly from Rev. Hooker’s website. For a signed copy of either the book or the new single, be sure to leave a note when ordering through his site requesting an autograph copy: 🌐 https://johnleehookerjr.com📺 Want to feel uplifted? Visit Rev. John Lee Hooker Jr.’s YouTube channel and immerse yourself in his powerful gospel music: https://youtube.com/@reverendjohnleehookerjr?feature=shared🙏 Betsy shares, “Rev. John Lee Hooker Jr. is a living testimony to how the power of God can transform a life. Betsy was honored and blessed to have him on the show.”📬 Visit johnleehookerjr.com to order your signed copy of Book and Album and connect with upcoming eventsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/chatting-with-betsy--4211847/support.💡 At Passionate World Talk Radio, we believe real conversations matter. Stay inspired and keep listening to Chatting with Betsy at www.passionateworldtalkradio.com.

In this episode of Chatting with Betsy, Rev. John Lee Hooker Jr. returns to discuss his powerful new gospel song Heaven Rules. The track delivers a message of faith, redemption, and personal accountability, inspired by today’s world and his own spiritual journey.Rev. Hooker previously joined Betsy in February to discuss his Amazon Best Seller in the Gospel category. Today, he returns to talk about his new, soul-stirring gospel song, “Heaven Rules,” co-written with Larry Batiste.✨Heaven Rules by Rev. John Lee Hooker Jr. was inspired by today’s world—where narcissism runs high and moral clarity can feel elusive. Through powerful lyrics and a dynamic blend of preaching, singing, and rapping, the song reminds us that God is in control, worldly riches are fleeting, and Jesus is the true Judge.🎶 Betsy and Rev. Hooker discuss the personal and spiritual inspiration behind Heaven Rules, the process of creating both the song and music video, and his past experiences being nominated for a Grammy Award. Betsy was especially moved by a surprising reference to the O.J. Simpson trial, which Rev. Hooker uses to emphasize a deeper message of personal accountability, stating that “there will be no excuses when we stand before Jesus.”💿 Heaven Rules is available on all major streaming platforms, and Betsy highly recommends taking a moment to listen. She describes the song as “original, inspiring, and deeply moving.”📚 You can also purchase From the Shadow of the Blues on -Amazon   - or directly from Rev. Hooker’s website. For a signed copy of either the book or the new single, be sure to leave a note when ordering through his site requesting an autograph copy: 🌐 https://johnleehookerjr.com📺 Want to feel uplifted? Visit Rev. John Lee Hooker Jr.’s YouTube channel and immerse yourself in his powerful gospel music: https://youtube.com/@reverendjohnleehookerjr?feature=shared🙏 Betsy shares, “Rev. John Lee Hooker Jr. is a living testimony to how the power of God can transform a life. Betsy was honored and blessed to have him on the show.”📬 Visit johnleehookerjr.com to order your signed copy of Book and Album and connect with upcoming eventsBecome a supporter of this podcast: <a...

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