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EPISODE · Mar 20, 2021 · 1H 15M

Hell: Conditional Immortality/Annihilation

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Dr. Will Ryan, Pastor Matt, and Jana examine the Conditional Immortality/Annihilation view of hell. We look at the Biblical and philosophical arguments and then the strengths and weaknesses. Conditional immortality states that immortality is not the default position of humans in this view. Adam and Eve’s life depended upon eating from the tree of life the eternal life of humanity is in eating from the true tree of Life – Jesus.  • Conditional Immortality has an extremely strong case biblically. It connects the punishment for sin and the rejection of God from beginning to end in the Bible.    Conditionalists (CI) don’t have to reinterpret death, second death, destruction, perish, and more to mean separation or torment. They let words mean what they normally mean.    Jesus’ death on the cross actually makes sense in a substitutionary atonement model with CI VS ECT. Jesus actually experiences and overcomes the wages of sin… DEATH (Not eternal torment).    In the conditionalist view God actually conquers sin and eliminates it from the cosmos.    Conditionalist do not fall into the platonic views of the soul being immortal that many in the early church fell into but stick to the Hebrew view that goes back to the beginning.  If we are immortal by nature then Hell is not really a punishment but a choice of location, instead of the continual biblical motif of choosing life or death.    In the apostolic writings there is never a mention of Hell as eternal torment. In the gospel presentations in Acts, Hell is never mentioned. Judgement and the one who judges is. When the Apostles refer to this judgement it is never eternal torment.    In CI the punishment fits the crime and God says that he values proper scales when it comes to justice. CI seems to be more just in this way than traditionalism.    CI’s version of final judgement is both just and merciful. Unending torment seems to go against the character of God who says over and over that “His anger only last for a moment, but favor lasts for a lifetime”. The traditional view has God’s wrath lasting forever which is nowhere in scripture.    CI fits more with the character of God than ECT overall. A God who respects free will, is merciful, but will let people have what they desire and if that is their own will then God is saddened but obliged to remove his sustaining hand and let them cease to exist.   

Dr. Will Ryan, Pastor Matt, and Jana examine the Conditional Immortality/Annihilation view of hell. We look at the Biblical and philosophical arguments and then the strengths and weaknesses. Conditional immortality states that immortality is not the default position of humans in this view. Adam and Eve’s life depended upon eating from the tree of life the eternal life of humanity is in eating from the true tree of Life – Jesus.  • Conditional Immortality has an extremely strong case biblically. It connects the punishment for sin and the rejection of God from beginning to end in the Bible.    Conditionalists (CI) don’t have to reinterpret death, second death, destruction, perish, and more to mean separation or torment. They let words mean what they normally mean.    Jesus’ death on the cross actually makes sense in a substitutionary atonement model with CI VS ECT. Jesus actually experiences and overcomes the wages of sin… DEATH (Not eternal torment).    In the conditionalist view God actually conquers sin and eliminates it from the cosmos.    Conditionalist do not fall into the platonic views of the soul being immortal that many in the early church fell into but stick to the Hebrew view that goes back to the beginning.  If we are immortal by nature then Hell is not really a punishment but a choice of location, instead of the continual biblical motif of choosing life or death.    In the apostolic writings there is never a mention of Hell as eternal torment. In the gospel presentations in Acts, Hell is never mentioned. Judgement and the one who judges is. When the Apostles refer to this judgement it is never eternal torment.    In CI the punishment fits the crime and God says that he values proper scales when it comes to justice. CI seems to be more just in this way than traditionalism.    CI’s version of final judgement is both just and merciful. Unending torment seems to go against the character of God who says over and over that “His anger only last for a moment, but favor lasts for a lifetime”. The traditional view has God’s wrath lasting forever which is nowhere in scripture.    CI fits more with the character of God than ECT overall. A God who respects free will, is merciful, but will let people have what they desire and if that is their own will then God is saddened but obliged to remove his sustaining hand and let them cease to exist.

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