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EPISODE · May 26, 2025 · 48 MIN

Helping Without Hurting: Family Recovery That Works

from Sisters In Sobriety · host Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen

This week on Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen are taking on one of the trickiest parts of recovery: what happens at home. Their guest, Amber Hollingsworth, is a licensed professional counselor, family recovery expert, and the brain behind the YouTube channel Put the Shovel Down. With over 20 years of experience, she helps families deal with the chaos of addiction—without burning themselves out in the process. If you’ve ever tried to help a loved one and ended up feeling like the bad guy (or totally powerless), this conversation is going to hit close to home. Amber explains why the old-school intervention model often backfires, how shame and blame keep people stuck, and why the people closest to someone struggling with addiction often have more influence than they think. There’s a better way—and Amber walks us through it. From her “Invisible Intervention” method to a strength-based approach that helps people reconnect with their values, she shares real tools that actually work. You'll hear how she encourages people to stop focusing on what’s going wrong and start noticing what’s still right—and how families can become part of the solution without getting dragged down by the drama. Sonia and Kathleen also open up about their own experiences trying (and failing) to stage an intervention, what they’d do differently now, and why it's so hard to step out of the “rescuer” role when someone you love is hurting. It’s raw, it’s real, and honestly—it’s the kind of conversation that makes you rethink everything you thought you knew about helping someone get better. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources. Episode Highlights (Time-Stamped): 00:01:00 – How Amber got into addiction counseling (hint: not the usual story) 00:02:30 – Growing up surrounded by addiction, and not realizing it until much later 00:04:45 – Why she started Put the Shovel Down and how it became a mission 00:05:55 – Why families often have more power than they think 00:06:40 – Creating a team approach: everyone gets their own support 00:08:20 – Why one-sided therapy can sometimes make things worse 00:10:30 – Everyone has their version of the story—and why that matters 00:12:00 – The most common way families accidentally slow down recovery 00:13:30 – When traditional interventions help—and when they totally miss the mark 00:15:00 – The bargaining stage (and why no one gets to skip it) 00:17:00 – Words that trigger defensiveness—and what to say instead 00:19:00 – What went wrong in Sonia and Kathleen’s attempt to help a family member 00:21:30 – The Invisible Intervention method explained step by step 00:23:00 – Building credit and influence with your loved one 00:25:00 – Natural consequences vs. punishment: why the difference matters 00:27:30 – What really helps someone see the problem for themselves 00:30:00 – Strength-based coaching: how Amber helps people reconnect with who they are 00:32:45 – Why it’s not about calling people out—it’s about calling them back to themselves 00:34:20 – Common values people rediscover when they stop drinking 00:36:30 – How to acknowledge addiction without crushing someone with shame 00:38:10 – Why so many middle-aged women defend their nightly wine 00:41:00 – How alcohol becomes the stand-in for self-care 00:42:00 – What to say to someone who doesn’t “seem” like they have a problem 00:43:30 – Why trying moderation might actually help you quit 00:45:00 – Navigating early sobriety when everyone around you is still drinking 00:46:00 – Final takeaway: You’re not powerless—and you don’t have to lose yourself trying to help someone else Amber's Links YouTube Instagram Sisters In Sobriety Links 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s Website – Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast 📲 Kathleen’s Instagram Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donations Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

<p>This week on <em>Sisters in Sobriety</em>, Sonia and Kathleen are taking on one of the trickiest parts of recovery: what happens at home. Their guest, Amber Hollingsworth, is a licensed professional counselor, family recovery expert, and the brain behind the YouTube channel <em>Put the Shovel Down</em>. With over 20 years of experience, she helps families deal with the chaos of addiction—without burning themselves out in the process.</p><p>If you’ve ever tried to help a loved one and ended up feeling like the bad guy (or totally powerless), this conversation is going to hit close to home. Amber explains why the old-school intervention model often backfires, how shame and blame keep people stuck, and why the people closest to someone struggling with addiction often have more influence than they think.</p><p>There’s a better way—and Amber walks us through it. From her “Invisible Intervention” method to a strength-based approach that helps people reconnect with their values, she shares real tools that actually work. You'll hear how she encourages people to stop focusing on what’s going wrong and start noticing what’s still right—and how families can become part of the solution without getting dragged down by the drama.</p><p>Sonia and Kathleen also open up about their own experiences trying (and failing) to stage an intervention, what they’d do differently now, and why it's so hard to step out of the “rescuer” role when someone you love is hurting. It’s raw, it’s real, and honestly—it’s the kind of conversation that makes you rethink everything you thought you knew about helping someone get better.</p><p>This is <em>Sisters in Sobriety</em>, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.</p><p>Episode Highlights (Time-Stamped):</p><p>00:01:00 – How Amber got into addiction counseling (hint: not the usual story)</p><p>00:02:30 – Growing up surrounded by addiction, and not realizing it until much later</p><p>00:04:45 – Why she started <em>Put the Shovel Down</em> and how it became a mission</p><p>00:05:55 – Why families often have more power than they think</p><p>00:06:40 – Creating a team approach: everyone gets their own support</p><p>00:08:20 – Why one-sided therapy can sometimes make things worse</p><p>00:10:30 – Everyone has their version of the story—and why that matters</p><p>00:12:00 – The most common way families accidentally slow down recovery</p><p>00:13:30 – When traditional interventions help—and when they totally miss the mark</p><p>00:15:00 – The bargaining stage (and why no one gets to skip it)</p><p>00:17:00 – Words that trigger defensiveness—and what to say instead</p><p>00:19:00 – What went wrong in Sonia and Kathleen’s attempt to help a family member</p><p>00:21:30 – The Invisible Intervention method explained step by step</p><p>00:23:00 – Building credit and influence with your loved one</p><p>00:25:00 – Natural consequences vs. punishment: why the difference matters</p><p>00:27:30 – What really helps someone see the problem for themselves</p><p>00:30:00 – Strength-based coaching: how Amber helps people reconnect with who they are</p><p>00:32:45 – Why it’s not about calling people out—it’s about calling them back to themselves</p><p>00:34:20 – Common values people rediscover when they stop drinking</p><p>00:36:30 – How to acknowledge addiction without crushing someone with shame</p><p>00:38:10 – Why so many middle-aged women defend their nightly wine</p><p>00:41:00 – How alcohol becomes the stand-in for self-care</p><p>00:42:00 – Wha

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