Hey! It's The Luskos - Ep 245: Phil Wickham: How Do You Stop Performing for God?

Phil Wickham catches up with Levi and Jennie fresh off his Song of the Saints tour — the one where God stopped him in his tracks the night before opening night with one question: are you really letting me be Lord of your life? Phil opens up about that surrender, the inflatable rocks that gave him a stage-prop identity crisis, and the audiobook producer who wasn't a believer until eight hours in the studio together. Plus: his new book Everyday Hallelujah, cottage cheese hacks, and a fall tour with Chandler Moore!   Connect with us on social! Phil: @philwickham Levi: @levilusko Jennie: @jennielusko Fresh Life Church: @freshlife   [Links] Get Phil's new book, Everyday Hallelujah: https://bit.ly/4vF9CC3 Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY   Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe   Time Stamps: 00:00:02 – Catching up: the long-overdue reunion and a bearskin rug offer 00:00:48 – The Lusko family's 21-day road trip and the great Chuck E. Cheese letdown 00:06:23 – The question that stopped Phil in his tracks: "Are you letting me be Lord of your life?" 00:08:53 – Why this was his favorite tour ever — plus 16 fall dates announced with Chandler Moore 00:13:16 – Inflatable rocks, Joshua Tree, and a "my stomach drops" stage design story 00:19:22 – World Vision, Jamie McKay, and falling more in love with God's people 00:25:05 – Announcing Everyday Hallelujah — and the "flowers on Sunday" analogy for a stale faith 00:44:44 – Cottage cheese hacks, protein gummies, and the great diet debate 00:54:33 – The audiobook producer who wasn't a believer — until he was 00:58:09 – Fall tour lineup, songwriting with Chandler in Encinitas, and Henry's Father's Day drawing