Hims & Hers CTO: Mo Elshenawy

Mo Elshenawy helped put driverless cars on San Francisco streets as President and CTO of Cruise.Now CTO of Hims & Hers, he joins Kyriakos to explain why rebuilding healthcare is harder.They discuss closed-loop healthcare, clinical guidelines as code, when AI should remain silent, and whether AI will replace doctors.Mo’s argument: models commoditize. Data and workflow compound.At 25:13, Mo introduces Hims & Hers’ new AI weight loss companion.CHAPTERS(00:00) The Chessboard That Started It All(02:22) AI Changed the Cost of Building(04:17) Healthcare Is Harder Than Self-Driving(06:13) Twice the Cost. 3.7 Fewer Years.(09:17) Conviction Before Driverless Worked(13:47) The Lunch That Changed His Career(15:25) Healthcare Is Actually Sick Care(18:03) Write Your Own Onboarding Plan(19:43) AI Without a Platform Is Demoware(23:06) Why OpenAI Can’t Close the Loop(25:13) Hims’ AI Weight Loss Announcement(28:42) Silence Is a Feature(31:53) Clinical Guidelines as Code(33:32) Most AI Benchmarks Are Theater(36:12) Models Commoditize. Workflow Compounds.(38:46) AI Will Not Replace Doctors(44:37) AI Makes Bad Engineers Worse(48:15) Healthcare Is Still Blockbuster(52:00) Is Hims Getting Into Peptides?(54:06) Concierge Care in Everyone’s Pocket(58:46) AI Destroys the Excuse Not to BuildMore episodes