Hitler Wore the Iron Cross and Swastika: Who Turned an Ancient Symbol of Peace from India Into Nazi Germany's Mark of Evil?

"A mark once tied to luck, harmony, and peace did not suddenly wake up evil one morning. Somewhere along the line, somebody put it on trial, rewrote its identity, and turned it into a weapon."   This episode follows one of the most remarkable historical journeys in the modern world, beginning with the expulsion of the Sephardic Jews from Spain in 1492 and tracing the development of global trade, migration, empire, and power across four centuries. From the Ottoman Empire and Amsterdam's rise as a commercial hub to the East India Company, the Sassoon merchant dynasty, and the emergence of modern banking and global commerce, the timeline reveals how seemingly separate historical events became interconnected. Along the way, the story examines the movement of people, capital, ideas, and institutions that helped shape the modern world. The episode also explores the transformation of symbols, identities, and political movements during periods of enormous social change. From the ancient origins of the swastika and the evolution of the term "Aryan" to the rise of nationalism in Europe, listeners will follow the chain of events that ultimately reshaped the meaning of some of history's most recognizable symbols. By connecting Spain, the Ottoman Empire, Amsterdam, the Sassoons, Chicago immigration, imperial trade networks, and the political upheavals of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, this episode offers a broad historical investigation into how migration, empire, commerce, and ideology combined to create the world we know today. Music:  Don McLean - American Pie (Lyric Video) Swastika - Wikipedia The Swastika, An Ancient Symbol Of Prosperity, Struggles To Overcome Nazi Connections | HuffPost Religion History of the 12,000-Year-Old Swastika: Origin, Meaning and Symbolism | by nothing but beautiful | My Bookmark | Medium Sassoon family - Wikipedia Nazi Germany's Fascination With Ancient India: The Case Of Heinrich Himmler | IBTimes Jews, Opium and the Kimono: Story of the Jews in the Far East: Ezra Yehezkel-Shaked: 9789650901660: Amazon.com: Books The greatest drug kingpin in history was an Orthodox Jew who attributed his business success to his careful observance of Jewish law - Luke Ford The Rise and Fall of the Sassoons | The India Forum The Sassoon Family | Trent Park House of Secrets The Sassoons are having a moment. 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Klug Avenue, Norfolk, NE  68701   SMART Meters & Timelines – Psychopath In Your Life TIMELINE  Spain, Sephardic Migration, Ottoman Networks, Amsterdam, the East India Company, and the Sassoon's  Before 1492  For centuries, the Iberian Peninsula was divided between Christian kingdoms in the north and Muslim states in the south.  Christians, Muslims, and Jews all lived on the peninsula, though not always peacefully.  The Catholic Church had been present in Spain for centuries, but Spain was not ruled directly by the Pope.  1469  Ferdinand II of Aragon marries Isabella I of Castile.  The two largest Christian kingdoms in Spain become politically united.  The couple later become known as the Catholic Monarchs.  1478  The Spanish Inquisition is established.  Although approved by the Pope, it is largely controlled by the Spanish monarchy.  The Inquisition becomes both a religious institution and an instrument of state power.  January 2, 1492  Granada falls.  The last Muslim kingdom in Spain is defeated.  For the first time, nearly the entire Iberian Peninsula is under Christian rule.  The Spanish Crown now possesses the military and political power to pursue greater religious and political uniformity throughout the kingdom.  March 31, 1492  The Alhambra Decree is issued.  Spain orders Jews to convert or leave.  Large Sephardic communities begin relocating to the Ottoman Empire, North Africa, Italy, Portugal, and the Netherlands.  August 1492  Thousands of Sephardic Jews depart Spain.  August 3, 1492  Christopher Columbus sails west.  October 12, 1492  Columbus reaches the Americas.  What Changed After 1492?  Before 1492, Spain was religiously mixed. Christians, Muslims, and Jews all lived throughout the peninsula. Political authority was divided among competing kingdoms.  After 1492, the monarchy increasingly pursues one kingdom, one crown, and one faith.  Roman Catholicism becomes increasingly tied to Spanish national identity.  Why 1492 Matters  In a single year, Granada falls, Jews are expelled, and Columbus sails.  Spain simultaneously begins religious consolidation at home and imperial expansion abroad.  This becomes the launching point for many of the later stories in this timeline: Sephardic migration into the Ottoman Empire, growth of Jewish communities in Istanbul, Smyrna, Salonica, and Baghdad, Amsterdam as a refuge and commercial center, Brownists migration to Amsterdam and Leiden, Sabbatai Zevi's movement, the rise of the East India Company, and the later emergence of the Sassoon family within Ottoman and British trade networks.  1499  The Crown begins issuing major restrictions on Romani populations.  Authorities order them to settle permanently, work under recognized masters, and abandon traditional itinerant lifestyles.  This begins centuries of assimilation campaigns.  1500–1502  Forced conversions begin for many Muslims in Spain.  The Crown increasingly pressures religious minorities to conform.  Spain simultaneously deals with Jews, Conversos, Muslims, Moriscos, and Romani populations.  The monarchy increasingly seeks a unified Catholic kingdom.  Ottoman Expansion and Sephardic Migration  The Ottoman Empire absorbs large numbers of Sephardic Jewish migrants.  Major Jewish centers develop in Constantinople, Istanbul, Smyrna, Izmir, Salonica, Aleppo, Cairo, and Baghdad.  Jewish family, commercial, and religious networks expand across the Mediterranean.  1534  The Ottoman Empire captures Baghdad.  Baghdad becomes part of the Ottoman imperial system.  The ancestors of the Sassoon family are believed to have already been part of Baghdad's Jewish community.  Late 1500s  Amsterdam emerges as a major commercial center.  Religious refugees begin arriving from across Europe.  Sephardic Jewish communities become increasingly visible there.  1580s–1600s  Brownists emerge in England.  They are led by Robert Browne.  They reject the authority of the Church of England.  1600  The East India Company is chartered.  England begins building a global trade empire.  1602  The Dutch East India Company is formed.  Amsterdam becomes one of the world's most important commercial and financial centers.  1608  Brownists flee England and settle in Amsterdam.  Amsterdam now contains Sephardic Jewish refugees, Protestant dissenters, merchants, political exiles, and international traders.  1609  Many Brownists relocate to Leiden.  1609–1614  Spain expels large numbers of Moriscos.  Hundreds of thousands leave Spain for North Africa and other regions.  1609–1620  The Leiden congregation develops.  Some remain permanently in the Netherlands.  Others prepare for migration to America.  1620  A portion of the Leiden congregation boards the Mayflower.  They establish Plymouth Colony.  Many Brownists remain in Europe.  1626  Sabbatai Zevi is born in Smyrna.  He grows up in an Ottoman port city connected to Mediterranean and European trade routes.  1650s  Trade expands rapidly between London, Amsterdam, Venice, Constantinople, Smyrna, Aleppo, and India.  Communication networks become increasingly sophisticated.  1665  Nathan of Gaza proclaims Zevi the Messiah.  News spreads rapidly through Jewish communities in the Ottoman Empire, Amsterdam, Germany, Italy, Poland-Lithuania, and North Africa.  The episode reveals extensive Jewish communication networks already operating across Europe and the Middle East.  1666  Zevi converts to Islam.  His movement fractures.  The event remains one of the most important episodes in Jewish history.  Late 1600s  Jewish communities remain active throughout Baghdad, Smyrna, Salonica, Constantinople, Cairo, Aleppo, and Amsterdam.  The communication and family networks remain intact.  1700  The East India Company evolves beyond trade.  It increasingly exercises military and political power in India.  1749  Great Gypsy Round-up.  Spanish authorities conduct a mass operation against Romani communities. Families are separated. Large numbers are detained. The effort ultimately fails and is gradually abandoned.  1757  Battle of Plassey.  The East India Company gains effective control over Bengal.  1765  The East India Company gains taxation authority.  It now controls trade, revenue collection, administration, and military forces.  1792  David Sassoon is born in Baghdad.  At this point, Baghdad has been Ottoman for over 250 years, Jewish communities have existed there for centuries, and the East India Company dominates much of India.  1832  David Sassoon leaves Baghdad for Bombay.  This places him directly inside the commercial system built during East India Company expansion.  1833  The East India Company's China trade monopoly ends.  Private merchant families gain greater opportunities.  The Sassoons begin expanding rapidly.  1839–1842  First Opium War.  China is forced open to additional foreign trade.  The Sassoon commercial network expands throughout Asia.  1858  The British Crown takes direct control of India.  East India Company rule ends.  Its trade infrastructure remains.  Late 1800s  The Sassoons become one of the world's most powerful merchant families.  Operations span Bombay, Shanghai, Hong Kong, and London.  1880–1914  Modern communications accelerate globalization through railroads, steamships, telegraphs, and international banking.  Jewish communities are documented throughout Russia, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Britain, France, the Ottoman Empire, and the United States.  1914  World War I begins.  At this point, the Ottoman Empire still exists, the Sassoons are internationally known, and Jewish populations throughout Europe and the Middle East are well documented.  Networks visible during the Zevi period have evolved into modern institutions, newspapers, charities, businesses, and political organizations.  The Through-Line  1492: Spain consolidates, expels Jews, and launches Atlantic expansion.  1500–1666: Ottoman Jewish communities grow; Amsterdam becomes a refuge and trade hub; Zevi reveals the scope of Jewish communication networks.  1600–1858: The East India Company builds a trade-and-empire system linking Britain, India, the Middle East, and China.  1792–1914: The Sassoons rise from Baghdad to Bombay and beyond, operating inside a global system built on centuries of migration, trade, empire, and communication.  1914: Many of the networks that began taking shape after 1492 are now part of a fully interconnected global world.  1916  The secret Sykes–Picot Agreement is negotiated between Britain and France.  It proposes dividing much of the Ottoman Middle East into spheres of influence after World War I.  Many later borders roughly follow this framework.  Spain expels Sephardim.   Ottoman cities absorb them.   Amsterdam becomes a refuge and trade hub.   The East India Company connects Europe, the Middle East, India, and China.   Families such as the Sassoons move from Baghdad to Bombay.   Ashkenazi populations grow in Eastern Europe.   Millions migrate to America.   Chicago becomes a major destination.   Fires, wars, border changes, and lost censuses break parts of the paper trail.   Before 1492  Sephardic Jews  Lived primarily in Spain and Portugal.   "Sepharad" is the Hebrew word traditionally associated with Spain.   Spoke forms of medieval Spanish that later evolved into Ladino.   Had lived in Iberia since Roman and early medieval times.   Ashkenazi Jews  Lived primarily in the German-speaking lands along the Rhine River.   Centers included cities such as Mainz, Worms, and Speyer.   Later expanded into Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, and Ukraine.   Spoke Yiddish, a language with strong German roots.   What Was Happening to Ashkenazim Around 1492?  They were dealing with their own expulsions and migrations.  1290 Jews expelled from England.  1306  Large-scale expulsions from France.  1348–1351 During the Black Death, many Jewish communities in German lands were attacked after being falsely blamed for the plague.  1400s  Many Ashkenazi Jews move eastward into Poland and Lithuania.  Those rulers often offered legal protections because Jewish merchants, financiers, and artisans were economically valuable.  By 1492  The largest and fastest-growing Ashkenazi communities were increasingly found in:  Poland   Lithuania   Bohemia   Parts of the Holy Roman Empire   while the Sephardic center remained in Spain.  After 1492  A major divergence occurs.  Sephardic Jews  Move into the Ottoman Empire.   Settle in cities such as Istanbul, Salonica, Izmir, Aleppo, and later Baghdad.   Become prominent in Mediterranean and Ottoman trade networks.   Ashkenazi Jews  Continue expanding in Eastern Europe.   By the 1700s and 1800s, Poland-Lithuania and neighboring regions contain the largest Jewish population in the world.   A Useful Way to Picture It  Around 1492 there were essentially two major Jewish geographic centers:  Western / Mediterranean World  Spain   Portugal   North Africa   Ottoman ports   This was primarily the Sephardic sphere.  Central and Eastern Europe  German states   Poland   Lithuania   Bohemia   Hungary   This was primarily the Ashkenazi sphere.  So when Spain expelled the Sephardic Jews, the Ashkenazim were mostly hundreds or even thousands of miles away in the German and East European world. The expulsion directly transformed the Sephardic world, while the Ashkenazi population was simultaneously growing in Central and Eastern Europe. By the late 1800s, the demographic center of world Jewry had shifted heavily toward the Ashkenazi communities of Eastern Europe, which is why so many Jewish immigrants arriving in places like New York City and Chicago between 1880 and 1924 were Ashkenazi rather than Sephardic.  Why Louisiana/New Orleans Was Important  During the 1800s, New Orleans was:  one of America's largest ports   gateway to the Mississippi River system   major trade center   slave-trade center earlier on   Caribbean commercial hub   entry point into the interior United States   Immigrants entered through:  Gulf shipping routes   Caribbean routes   Latin American routes   French and Spanish colonial networks     Record Keeping Was Often Messy  Compared to later federal immigration systems, early New Orleans documentation could be:  inconsistent   decentralized   damaged   incomplete   multilingual   Records existed, but:  standards varied   spellings changed   manifests were inconsistent   local archives suffered losses over time   And Louisiana had additional complications because of:  French influence   Spanish colonial history   mixed legal systems   shifting governments   hurricanes   floods   fires   humid climate damaging paper  Mississippi River System  New Orleans also functioned differently from Ellis Island.  Many immigrants:  arrived quietly   dispersed rapidly upriver   moved into river commerce   entered agricultural zones   disappeared into frontier settlements   So tracing them later became harder.  Which Groups Came Through Louisiana?  Various groups arrived through Gulf ports including:  French   Spanish   Sicilians   Germans   Irish   Caribbean populations   Jews from Mediterranean regions   some Eastern Europeans later   Sicilian migration into Louisiana, for example, became extremely important in the late nineteenth century.  And many records were:  local   church-based   shipping-company based   handwritten   partially destroyed  The famous "Mrs. O'Leary's cow kicked over the lantern" story tied to the 1871 Great Chicago Fire was later admitted being fabricated by a reporter.  The journalist was Michael Ahern, a reporter for the Chicago Republican. In 1893, he reportedly admitted that he and other reporters made up the cow story because they thought it made colorful copy and gave the disaster a simple, dramatic explanation.   The woman blamed, Catherine O'Leary, was an Irish immigrant whose barn was where the fire was believed to have started. The official investigation never proved she or her cow caused the fire. Historians now generally view her as a scapegoat shaped by anti-Irish and anti-Catholic prejudice common at the time.   What is interesting historically is how powerful the myth became even after the confession. The "cow and lantern" version stayed in textbooks, movies, songs, cartoons, and public memory for over a century. Chicago's city council eventually formally cleared Mrs. O'Leary and the cow in 1997.   The exact cause of the fire still is not definitively known. Other theories include:  accidental ignition by people in or near the barn a neighboring party gathering pipe smoking near hay broader drought and fire conditions across the Midwest that week One thing historians largely agree on is that Chicago itself was extremely vulnerable to catastrophe at that moment:  long drought   strong winds  wooden sidewalks and buildings   exhausted fire crews   rapid population growth  and weak fire infrastructure   The Fire began on the night of October 8, 1871, and burned until early October 10, 1871 the 1890 United States Census destruction erased most federal data for that critical transition period   immigrant records from the 1880s–1890s were already inconsistent   many immigrants changed names   Yiddish spellings varied   addresses changed constantly   overcrowded neighborhoods created undercounting problems   So historians often reconstruct estimates indirectly.  Was Everyone Counted Even BEFORE the Fire?  No. Even before destruction, nineteenth-century census-taking had major weaknesses:  language barriers   mistrust of government   transient populations   crowded tenements   undocumented boarders   spelling confusion   enumerator mistakes   This especially affected:  poor immigrants   urban laborers   recent arrivals   Chicago Was Extremely Chaotic  Late nineteenth-century Chicago was exploding in population:  railroads   meatpacking   garment industry   factories   slums   rapid housing turnover   Neighborhoods like:  Maxwell Street   Near West Side   were crowded and constantly shifting.  People:  moved frequently   boarded with relatives   used nicknames   Americanized names later   sometimes avoided officials entirely  So How Many Might Be Missing?  No exact number exists, but historians generally believe:  Tens of thousands of individuals  connected to late nineteenth-century Chicago immigration history became difficult or impossible to track cleanly because of:  the missing 1890 census   Ellis Island fire losses   local record inconsistency   For Jewish Chicago specifically, the biggest visibility gap is the:  1880–1900 explosion period  That is exactly when:  Eastern European Ashkenazi migration accelerated   neighborhoods formed   businesses started   families Americanized   labor networks developed   Important Detail  The population estimates themselves:  "50,000 by 1890"   "250,000 by 1920"   are often reconstructed using:  synagogue memberships   city directories   Yiddish newspapers   charity records   burial societies   school enrollment   neighborhood studies   later census backtracking   Meaning: historians had to rebuild the picture indirectly because the direct federal snapshot was mostly gone.   Why Researchers Find This So Frustrating  The lost 1890 census sat at the exact pivot point between:  older German Jewish migration and   massive Eastern European Ashkenazi migration   Without it, researchers lose a critical "before and after" snapshot of:  assimilation   neighborhood formation   occupational shifts   chain migration patterns   early labor organization   family structures   That is why the 1890 census destruction is considered one of the worst archival losses in American demographic history.  First Major Hit  1871 — Great Chicago Fire  The Great Chicago Fire destroys:  municipal records   church archives   business papers   property documents   newspapers   personal family records   This damages visibility into:  earlier immigrant settlement   pre-1871 Chicago neighborhoods   early German, Irish, and Jewish communities   So researchers lose part of the "before" picture.  Then Massive Immigration Explosion  1880s–1920s  Chicago explodes industrially:  railroads   stockyards   factories   garment industry   steel   shipping   Huge waves arrive:  Italians   Eastern European Jews   Poles   Lithuanians   Russians   Ukrainians   Bohemians   Croatians   Neighborhoods form rapidly.    Second Major Hit  1890 Census destroyed  Then the 1890 United States Census destruction wipes out the key federal snapshot right in the middle of that transformation.  So now researchers lose much of the "during" picture.    Third Hit  1897 Ellis Island Fire  Then millions of immigration records disappear.  Now portions of the "arrival" picture are damaged too.    Why Chicago Gets Mentioned So Often  Chicago was one of the:  fastest-growing cities on Earth   largest immigrant hubs   largest industrial labor magnets   during exactly the period where:  records burned   archives vanished   names changed   overcrowding complicated tracking   So yes — from a research standpoint, Chicago got hit on:  the early side and   the middle side   of the immigration era.  That creates a layered archival fog over one of America's most important industrial immigrant cities.    The Timeline  1871  Chicago Fire destroys earlier local records.  1880s–1920s  Mass immigration boom.  1890 Census destroyed  Critical national demographic snapshot lost.  1897 Ellis Island fire  Millions of immigration records destroyed.  That sequence is why historians often describe late nineteenth-century urban immigrant reconstruction as piecing together a shattered puzzle.  Foundations of Empire, Banking, and Global Trade  1600  The East India Company is chartered by England.  This becomes one of the most powerful corporate-imperial systems in history.  The company eventually controls:  trade routes   taxation systems   private armies   ports   opium production networks   shipping infrastructure   India increasingly becomes tied into British imperial commerce.  1700s  European royal houses become deeply interconnected.  Key dynasties include:  House of Habsburg   House of Romanov   House of Hohenzollern   Europe is increasingly ruled through:  dynastic marriages   banking alliances   military treaties   aristocratic networks   The same elite families repeatedly appear across governments, military leadership, and finance.  Late 1700s – Early 1800s  Britain expands aggressively into:  India   China trade   maritime dominance   industrial manufacturing   The global economy begins shifting from land empires to industrial-financial empires.  THE NAPOLEONIC ERA  1813  The Iron Cross is created in Prussia during the wars against Napoleon.  Commissioned by:  King Frederick William III Designed by:   Karl Friedrich Schinkel   At this point, it is purely a Prussian military symbol.  Later:  German Empire adopts it   military aristocracy wears it   World War I Germany uses it   Nazis later revive and weaponize the imagery politically   This is one example of symbols evolving through multiple political eras.  1815  The Congress of Vienna reorganizes Europe after Napoleon.  Vienna becomes:  diplomatic center of Europe   aristocratic power hub   administrative center of the Habsburg Empire   The goal becomes stability through elite coordination.  This matters later because Vienna becomes:  center of psychiatry   psychoanalysis   elite bureaucracy   surveillance culture   rigid class systems  THE SASSOON PERIOD BEGINS  1792  David Sassoon is born in Baghdad under Ottoman rule.  His family is tied to regional commerce and treasury administration.  Aug 24, 1814  BURNING of Washington 1820s–1830s  Political instability grows in Ottoman Iraq.  David Sassoon leaves Baghdad and relocates to Bombay under British influence.  Bombay is becoming:  a major imperial port   a British commercial hub   a connection point between:   India   Britain   China   maritime trade systems   1830s–1870s  The House of Sassoon expands rapidly.  Major activities include:  textiles   banking   shipping   real estate   opium trade connected to China markets   At the same time:  British imperial systems dominate India   Orientalist scholarship expands   Sanskrit studies grow in Europe   archaeology and comparative religion explode in popularity   The same imperial infrastructure moving goods is also moving:  manuscripts   scholars   symbols   religious ideas   artifacts  THE CIVIL WAR ERA  1840s–1860s  Industrial capitalism accelerates.  Railroads, steel, banking, shipping, and wartime contracting reshape wealth structures.  The United States is industrializing rapidly.  1861–1865  The American Civil War erupts.  This becomes a major turning point in:  banking   industrial finance   railroads   oil   weapons manufacturing   federal power expansion   War creates enormous fortunes.  Industrial-scale warfare changes everything.  Civil War Financial Expansion  During and after the war:  financiers grow stronger   railroads expand massively   industrial monopolies emerge   wartime supply contracts create fortunes   Many later Gilded Age elites rise during this transformation.  This includes families later associated with:  oil   railroads   banking   international shipping   POST–CIVIL WAR GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION  1860s–1880s  The United States emerges as a rising industrial power.  At the same time:  British Empire dominates global shipping   Europe dominates finance   aristocratic systems still control much of continental Europe   Old aristocracy and new industrial wealth begin merging.  1869  The Suez Canal Opening opens.  This radically changes:  shipping speed   imperial trade   India-Europe connections   movement of goods and ideas   Bombay becomes even more important.  GERMAN NATIONALISM & SYMBOL TRANSFORMATION  1850–1890  European scholars increasingly study:  Sanskrit   Indo-European languages   comparative mythology   ancient symbols   archaeology   The swastika already existed for thousands of years across:  India   Central Asia   ancient Europe   Buddhist traditions   Hindu traditions   Originally associated with:  prosperity   balance   cosmic order   good fortune   1871  The Unification of Germany occurs under Prussian leadership.  The House of Hohenzollern now rules the German Empire.  Prussian military culture expands dramatically.  Symbols like:  the Iron Cross   imperial eagles   nationalist mythology   become associated with German identity.   1870s–1910s  German nationalist and racial theorists increasingly reinterpret ancient symbols.  The swastika begins shifting from:  ancient religious symbol   into:  nationalist identity marker   racial mythology symbol   "Aryan" ancestry emblem   This transformation happens BEFORE Hitler.  Key developments include:  völkisch movements   occult nationalism   racial anthropology   mythic German origin theories   The symbol is gradually detached from its Indian religious meaning and repurposed politically.  VIENNA, PSYCHIATRY, AND FIN-DE-SIÈCLE EUROPE  Late 1800s  Vienna under the Habsburgs becomes one of the intellectual capitals of Europe.  Simultaneously:  immense wealth exists   rigid class hierarchy exists   sexual repression intensifies   nationalism rises   imperial anxiety grows   This environment helps produce:  psychoanalysis   forensic psychiatry   modern psychological classification systems  1886  Richard von Krafft-Ebing publishes Psychopathia Sexualis.  This becomes enormously influential in:  psychiatry   forensic psychology   sexual classification systems   Vienna becomes a center for defining "normal" and "abnormal" behavior.  1889  The Cleveland Street Scandal erupts in Britain.  The scandal exposes:  elite sexual networks   class protection systems   press suppression dynamics   Rumors swirl around aristocratic proximity to the scandal.  This becomes one of many examples where class status appears to affect accountability.  FREUD, EMPIRE, AND COLLAPSE  1890–1914  Sigmund Freud develops psychoanalysis in Vienna.  This occurs during:  rising nationalism   imperial instability   elite social rigidity   anxieties about sexuality and degeneration   The Habsburg Empire is elegant outwardly but increasingly unstable internally.   THE FINAL PRE-WORLD WAR PERIOD  1900–1914  Europe is interconnected through:  royal marriages   military alliances   banking systems   industrial capital   colonial empires   Meanwhile:  nationalism intensifies   industrial warfare advances   racial ideology spreads   propaganda systems modernize   The same period also sees:  expanding mass media   modern psychology   intelligence systems   early public relations structures   WORLD WAR I  1914  The Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand occurs.  World War I begins.  The old imperial order starts collapsing:  Habsburgs   Romanovs   Ottoman Empire   German Empire   1917  The Russian Revolution destroys the Romanov monarchy.  1918  The Collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire ends centuries of Habsburg imperial dominance.  Entire political maps change.  New flags, borders, and national identities emerge.  This is important to your larger framework because many families, commercial systems, and intellectual networks survive political collapse and continue operating through new states and institutions.   THE INTERWAR YEARS  1919–1933  Germany experiences:  humiliation after WWI   economic collapse   political extremism   hyperinflation   nationalist radicalization   The swastika is now fully politicized by the Nazi movement.  A symbol once associated with prosperity in India is transformed into one of the most infamous political symbols in modern history.  Symbols Change Meaning Over Time Examples:  swastika   Iron Cross   imperial eagle imagery   Political movements repeatedly repurpose older symbols.  Elite Continuity Across Political Collapse Empires collapse. Borders change. Flags change.  But:  financial systems   aristocratic networks   industrial capital   intellectual institutions   often survive transitions and adapt.  Vienna as a Critical Intellectual Hub Late Habsburg Vienna sits at the intersection of:  aristocracy   psychiatry   repression   sexuality debates   imperial bureaucracy   nationalism   This environment heavily influences:  psychoanalysis   forensic psychiatry   later DSM-era thinking   trauma discourse   modern concepts of deviance and normality  The ORIGINAL Sassoon Family This is the famous Baghdadi Jewish mercantile dynasty.  The line begins with:  David Sassoon   Origin:  Baghdad   Ottoman Iraq   Middle Eastern Jewish community   Then:  Bombay   British imperial trade   Shanghai   Hong Kong   London   This is the:  opium trade   textile trade   banking   shipping   imperial commerce family   That is the historical "House of Sassoon" people usually mean in imperial history discussions.  Vidal Sassoon Vidal Sassoon came from a completely different background.  He was:  born in London in 1928   from a poor Jewish family in East London   raised partly in an orphanage during childhood hardship   became famous as a revolutionary hairstylist in the 1960s   His family was Ashkenazi Jewish, tied to the London Jewish community.  He was not part of the wealthy Baghdadi merchant dynasty that built the 19th-century trade empire.    Why The Same Name?  "Sassoon" is an old Jewish surname with Middle Eastern roots.  The name itself comes from:  "Sasson" or "Sassoon" meaning:   joy   happiness   The surname existed across multiple Jewish communities:  Iraqi   Syrian   Sephardi   later some Ashkenazi branches too   So sharing the name does not automatically mean direct connection to the elite mercantile dynasty.    Important Distinction  When discussing:  British imperial trade   Bombay   opium   China trade   Ottoman Baghdad   imperial finance   you are talking about the Baghdadi merchant dynasty.  When discussing:  1960s fashion   celebrity hairdressing   Vidal Sassoon salons   London fashion culture  .  *]:pointer-events-auto R6Vx5W_threadScrollVars scroll-mb-[calc(var(--scroll-root-safe-area-inset-bottom,0px)+var(--thread-response-height))] scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id= "request-WEB:44eeac70-335e-402b-a16d-cf1dc48bb5d7-5" data-turn-id-container= "request-WEB:44eeac70-335e-402b-a16d-cf1dc48bb5d7-5" data-testid= "conversation-turn-12" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn= "assistant"> "Orthodox Jewish" and "Ashkenazi" are describing two different things.  Orthodox refers to religious practice and belief. Ashkenazi refers to historical/ethnic origin and culture. So an Orthodox Jew can be:  Ashkenazi   Sephardi   Mizrahi   Yemenite   Ethiopian   etc.   Those are separate categories.  The Simplest Breakdown  Ashkenazi Jews  Historically associated with:  Central Europe   Eastern Europe   Germany   Poland   Russia   Austria   Hungary   Language traditionally:  Yiddish     Sephardi Jews  Historically associated with:  Spain   Portugal   later Ottoman regions after expulsions   Languages historically included:  Ladino   Spanish-influenced dialects     Mizrahi Jews  Historically associated with:  Middle East   Iraq   Iran   Syria   Yemen   Arabic, Persian, and regional languages were common.  The David Sassoon family came from the Baghdad/Iraqi Jewish world, which is generally classified as:  Mizrahi or sometimes:   Sephardi-Mizrahi due to religious traditions and later classifications.   They were not originally Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews.  So Why The Confusion?  In modern America and Europe, many visible Orthodox communities are Ashkenazi because:  Eastern European Jewish migration was massive in the 1800s–1900s.   Many Orthodox institutions in the U.S. developed from those communities.   So people often unconsciously equate: "Orthodox" = "Ashkenazi"  But globally and historically that is not accurate.  For example:  Iraqi Orthodox Jews existed.   Syrian Orthodox Jews existed.   Persian Orthodox Jews existed.   Yemenite Orthodox Jews existed.   Orthodox simply means traditional religious observance.   The Sassoons are interesting precisely because they do NOT fit the common "Eastern European Jewish" stereotype many people imagine automatically.  They were:  Baghdadi Jews   tied into Ottoman and British imperial trade systems   operating through Bombay, Shanghai, Hong Kong, and London   culturally connected to Middle Eastern Jewish traditions while also integrating into British imperial society   That made them somewhat unique:  Middle Eastern origin   British imperial integration   global commercial reach   This is part of why they became so historically significant in trade networks during the 1800s.  The Sassoon's, the Ottoman Collapse, British Imperial Expansion, and the Reshaping of Global Power The rise of the David Sassoon family cannot be understood as an isolated business success story. Their ascent occurred during one of the greatest shifts in global power in modern history: the gradual decline of the Ottoman Empire and the simultaneous expansion of the British Empire. The Sassoon's stood directly at the intersection of those two worlds. They originated inside the old Ottoman-commercial system but successfully transferred themselves into the rapidly expanding British-imperial-financial system before the Ottoman structure finally fractured into modern nation-states. That transition preserved and multiplied their wealth while much of the old regional order around them eventually collapsed. Baghdad Under Ottoman Rule David Sassoon was born in Baghdad in 1792, when the city was still governed as part of the Ottoman Empire. At that time, Baghdad was not part of a modern nation-state called Iraq. Iraq did not yet exist. The region was governed through Ottoman provincial systems that connected cities like Baghdad, Damascus, Aleppo, Jerusalem, and Istanbul under one imperial structure. The Ottoman Empire during the early 1800s was already showing signs of strain: weakening administrative control corruption among local governors rising European commercial penetration military decline debt problems regional instability growing nationalist movements Merchant families often survived by carefully navigating relationships with both local rulers and expanding foreign powers. David Sassoon's father reportedly served in financial administration connected to the Ottoman governor system in Baghdad. But under governor Dawud Pasha, persecution and political pressure intensified, causing David Sassoon to flee. This departure would become one of the most consequential moves in the family's history. The Importance of Bombay When David Sassoon relocated to Bombay in the 1830s, he was not moving into a random city. Bombay was becoming one of the British Empire's most important strategic ports. It connected: India China the Persian Gulf East Africa Europe through expanding imperial shipping systems. This was the age of: steamships imperial insurance markets global commodity exchanges telegraph expansion colonial naval protection industrial manufacturing Britain was turning maritime trade into a global machine. The Sassoons entered this machine at exactly the right moment. The British Empire Was Expanding While the Ottoman World Was Weakening This timing is critical to understanding the family's success. During the 19th century: The Ottoman Empire was: losing territorial control financially weakened politically unstable increasingly dependent on European powers struggling against nationalist uprisings Meanwhile: The British Empire was: dominating global shipping expanding industrial production controlling Indian resources building international banking systems projecting naval power worldwide establishing influence across Asia and the Middle East The Sassoon's repositioned themselves inside the stronger system before the older one collapsed. That transition gave them advantages that many regional merchant families never obtained. The Opium System and Imperial Trade One of the most controversial aspects of the Sassoon story was their involvement in the opium trade. The report explains that the Sassoon's became deeply connected to trade between India and China, especially opium exports. This trade was not operating outside empire. It was embedded inside imperial systems themselves. British-controlled India became one of the world's major opium production centers. The product was exported into China through networks involving: shipping firms traders banks insurers colonial authorities The opium trade generated enormous wealth. According to the material, the Sassoon's eventually controlled around 70 percent of that trade. This meant the family's fortune was tied directly to: British imperial commerce Indian agricultural production Chinese treaty-port systems maritime shipping global finance The family became part of the infrastructure of empire itself. The American Civil War and Global Opportunity The Sassoons also benefited from another massive geopolitical event: the American Civil War. When the Union blockade cut off Confederate cotton exports, Britain suddenly faced a cotton crisis because its textile mills depended heavily on Southern cotton supplies. This disruption created enormous opportunities for alternative cotton traders. The Sassoons capitalized on the shortage through their Indian cotton operations. This illustrates how globally connected the empire had become. A war in America could: disrupt British industry increase Indian cotton profits enrich merchant dynasties in Bombay reshape shipping markets worldwide The Sassoons operated inside that interconnected system. Loyalty to Britain David Sassoon appears to have understood where long-term power was moving. Although he reportedly retained traditional dress and did not fully westernize personally, he aligned himself politically with British authority. During the Indian Rebellion of 1857, he supported British colonial authorities and pledged the backing of Bombay's Jewish community. That loyalty strengthened the family's imperial standing. The British rewarded groups and families they viewed as stable commercial allies. Merchant dynasties that helped maintain trade, finance, and political order could gain extraordinary access and protection. Wealth Turns Into Social Power By the late 1800s, the Sassoon's were no longer simply traders. They were becoming imperial aristocrats. Albert Sassoon moved the family headquarters to London and became deeply integrated into elite society. He received: knighthood aristocratic honors Freedom of the City of London access to royal circles The family acquired: estates mansions country homes political influence They socialized with: the Prince of Wales aristocrats financiers politicians military officers The report notes that Albert became closely connected to the Prince of Wales, later Edward VII. At this point, the Sassoon's had effectively crossed from merchant capitalism into elite imperial society. Yet Acceptance Was Incomplete Despite their wealth, titles, and connections, the family still encountered prejudice. The report includes examples of antisemitic insults and dismissive commentary from parts of British upper-class society. This reveals an important contradiction of imperial Britain: The empire often welcomed: money investment trade philanthropy political usefulness while portions of elite society still resisted fully accepting outsiders culturally or socially. The Sassoon's could enter elite circles, but full assimilation remained complicated. The Ottoman Collapse and the Creation of Modern Borders By the early 20th century, the Ottoman Empire was approaching final collapse. After World War I: the empire fragmented territories were partitioned new countries emerged European mandates expanded The Middle East was redrawn. New flags, borders, governments, and identities appeared across former Ottoman lands. But the Sassoons had already largely shifted outward into: London Bombay Shanghai British banking international real estate imperial finance That repositioning insulated them from many regional shocks that followed the Ottoman collapse. In many ways, the Sassoons represent a family that exited one geopolitical order before its final breakdown and successfully attached itself to the next dominant global system. Shanghai and the Eastern Imperial Network The family's China operations became another major pillar of their power. Shanghai after the Opium Wars became one of the world's most unusual cities: foreign concessions international banking shipping firms trading houses imperial military presence immense wealth concentration The Sassoons became major players inside this environment. Shanghai connected: British imperial trade Indian production Chinese markets European banking international shipping The city became one of the financial capitals of the imperial world. Decline of the Dynasty Ironically, the same imperial systems that enriched the Sassoons eventually contributed to their decline. The family remained heavily dependent on opium revenues even as international opposition to the trade grew. In 1907, Britain, India, and China agreed to phase out opium cultivation and exports. This damaged the economic foundation of many businesses tied to the trade. Additional problems emerged: debt inheritance fragmentation family disputes declining innovation extraction of capital for luxury lifestyles The empire that once symbolized aggressive expansion gradually became less adaptable. By 1978, the Sassoon name had largely disappeared from the top levels of world finance and trade. The Larger Historical Meaning The Sassoon story is ultimately about far more than one family. It reflects: the decline of empires the movement of global capital colonial expansion imperial trade systems opium economics elite integration migration identity transformation the creation of modern financial aristocracies The family moved: from Ottoman Baghdad to British Bombay into Shanghai's treaty-port economy and finally into London's aristocratic world That path mirrored the movement of global power itself during the 19th century. The Franklin D. Roosevelt  Family line did connect through the Delano branch to American trading networks involved in the China trade during the 19th century, including opium-related commerce.  Warren Delano Jr. is the central figure usually discussed.  He worked through American merchant houses operating in:  China   Hong Kong   Canton/Guangzhou   broader maritime trade networks tied to British imperial commerce   The DeLano's were connected to firms participating in the same broader commercial ecosystem that included:  British trading houses   shipping firms   insurance   banking   tea trade   silk trade   opium distribution   Historically, American merchant families often operated alongside British imperial trade systems even if they were not officially part of the British Empire itself.  The important nuance is this:  The Delano's were not unique outsiders secretly doing something separate from the era's commercial system.  Rather, opium commerce was deeply embedded in the global trade structure of the time, especially around:  British India   China treaty ports   shipping finance   merchant banking   maritime insurance   The Sassoons, Jardine Matheson, Russell & Company, Dent & Co., and various American merchant families all operated inside overlapping China-trade environments during the 1800s.  As for Amsterdam, there are broader historical layers there too.  The Netherlands had long been one of Europe's major commercial and maritime powers through:  the Dutch East India Company   global shipping   colonial trade   banking   insurance   port finance   Amsterdam remained an important financial center even after Britain overtook Dutch maritime dominance.  Many elite merchant families across:  Britain   the Netherlands   France   Germany   the United States   became interconnected through:  banking   shipping   trade partnerships   marriage alliances   investment networks   Regarding FDR distancing himself from the opium aspect of the family history, historians have noted that later generations of elite families often emphasized:  philanthropy   diplomacy   public service   banking   politics   while minimizing or softening earlier fortunes tied to:  slavery   opium   colonial extraction   war contracting   monopolistic trade   That pattern was not unique to the Delanos.  Many major fortunes of the 18th and 19th centuries had roots in systems modern audiences now view far more critically.  In FDR's case, the Roosevelt public image centered heavily around:  patrician reformism   public service   anti-Depression leadership   wartime leadership   not the older China-trade world of his maternal ancestors.  So your general memory is directionally correct:  the Delano family did participate in China trade networks tied to opium-era commerce   these networks overlapped with British imperial trade systems   later generations often deemphasized that aspect of family wealth history   That broader pattern shows up repeatedly across many elite merchant dynasties of the 19th century. *]:pointer-events-auto R6Vx5W_threadScrollVars scroll-mb-[calc(var(--scroll-root-safe-area-inset-bottom,0px)+var(--thread-response-height))] scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id= "request-WEB:44eeac70-335e-402b-a16d-cf1dc48bb5d7-5" data-turn-id-container= "request-WEB:44eeac70-335e-402b-a16d-cf1dc48bb5d7-5" data-testid= "conversation-turn-12" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn= "assistant"> Pre-1800s — Before the European Reinterpretation The swastika existed for thousands of years before modern political movements ever touched it. The symbol appeared across India, Central Asia, parts of Europe, and other regions of the world. In India, it was commonly associated with ideas of good fortune, prosperity, harmony, cosmic order, and spiritual symbolism. When Europeans first encountered the symbol, they generally viewed it as Indian religious imagery, Buddhist imagery, or an archaeological curiosity. At this stage, nobody viewed it as a Nazi symbol because Nazism did not yet exist. The word "Aryan" also meant something very different from what it later became. Originally, the term was largely an ethnocultural and linguistic description. It roughly referred to ideas such as "noble," "our people," or speakers of related language traditions. The term had existed in ancient India and Iran long before modern racial theories appeared. 1700s–1820s — The Sassoon Family in Baghdad The Sassoon family had lived in Baghdad for generations and had already become established merchants and community leaders. David Sassoon's father, Sassoon ben Saleh, served as chief treasurer under Ottoman authorities and was an important figure within Baghdad's Jewish community. Baghdad at this time sat at the center of major trade routes connecting the Ottoman Empire, Persia, India, and Europe. Merchant families often developed extensive relationships that crossed regions, religions, and governments. The Sassoons were already operating within large international networks long before India entered the picture. 1828–1832 — Departure from Baghdad Political pressure and instability increased under Dawud Pasha. David Sassoon left Baghdad, traveled through Persia, and eventually settled in Bombay. This move later became significant because Bombay was not a small or isolated city. It was becoming one of Britain's major imperial gateways, connecting India, China, and Europe through expanding trade networks. 1830s–1870s — Expansion Through Bombay Bombay rapidly developed into a major commercial center. Sassoon wealth expanded through textiles, cotton, shipping, and the opium trade. The family also built schools, synagogues, libraries, charitable institutions, and extensive commercial networks. David Sassoon worked inside British trade systems while his business network continued expanding outward. Family operations spread into Hong Kong, Shanghai, Canton, Bombay, and London. His sons became distributed across various parts of the network, allowing the family to operate in multiple regions simultaneously. Their business interests also expanded into communications, real estate, and institutions. 1850–1890 — European Fascination with India Grows Around the same time, another process was beginning in Europe. German and British scholars became increasingly fascinated with Sanskrit, comparative religion, archaeology, ancient symbols, and theories involving Indo-European languages. Questions emerged such as: "Why do Sanskrit and European languages appear related?" Scholars including Friedrich Max Müller helped spread discussions about Indo-European language families. Originally, these studies focused primarily on language. Over time, however, some interpretations began stretching language studies into larger discussions about identity and ancestry. 1871–1875 — Schliemann and Troy Heinrich Schliemann excavated Troy and reported finding swastika-like symbols on artifacts. This shifted discussions in an important way. Previously, the assumption had often been: "The swastika is mainly an Indian symbol." Now some scholars began thinking: "The swastika appears across multiple ancient cultures." Some researchers became excited because they believed they might be seeing evidence of ancient connected civilizations. 1880–1915 — The Transition Period This period becomes one of the major turning points in the timeline. Ideas increasingly began changing in sequence. Initially, scholars focused on language theories. Over time, some individuals expanded those ideas into theories about populations and ancestry. Eventually, some people transformed these discussions into racial theories. The progression looked roughly like this: Language studies became discussions about peoples. Discussions about peoples became discussions about ancestry. Discussions about ancestry eventually became racial theories. The symbol itself became attractive because it appeared ancient, mysterious, visually simple, emotionally powerful, and supposedly linked to ancestral origins. Writers including Émile Burnouf increasingly discussed the swastika within broader Aryan narratives. Importantly, the symbol itself had not changed. What changed was how people interpreted it. 1890–1915 — Political Pressure Zone At the same time, Europe was experiencing enormous social and political strain. Nationalism was rising. Industrialization was accelerating. Empires were competing against one another. Racial theories were spreading. Mass politics was emerging. Mass media was expanding. Simultaneously: The House of Habsburg was entering its final phase. The House of Romanov was approaching collapse. German nationalism was becoming increasingly intense. 1914–1918 — World War I World War I caused severe damage to the old dynastic order. The Romanovs fell in 1917. The Habsburg Empire collapsed in 1918. The German monarchy fell in 1918. The Ottoman Empire effectively ended soon afterward. Large political systems increasingly shifted away from dynasties and aristocratic structures toward nation-states, ideological movements, mass politics, propaganda, and symbolic imagery. 1918–1920 Organizations such as the Thule Society increasingly used ideas associated with nationalism and Aryan identity. 1920 — Hitler Adopts the Swastika Adolf Hitler adopted the swastika for the Nazi Party. Hitler did not discover the symbol himself. By the time he adopted it, the reinterpretation process had already been developing for decades through various nationalist and racial movements. After 1945 Following World War II and the Holocaust, many organizations and institutions abandoned the symbol. Publishers removed it. Companies dropped it. Organizations discontinued its use. Military insignia changed. The symbol itself, however, continued to remain part of Indian religious and cultural traditions. The largest change was not the symbol itself. The largest change was its meaning in Western political interpretation. Aryan Originally: a cultural/self-description. Later: turned into a racial theory by later writers. Ethnocultural term. The Sanskrit word "arya" was originally an ethnocultural term designating those who spoke Vedic Sanskrit and adhered to Vedic cultural norms, in contrast to an outsider, or an-arya ("non-Arya"). By the time of the Buddha (5th–4th century BCE), it took the meaning of "noble." In Old Iranian languages, the Avestan term "airya" (Old Persian "ariya") was likewise used as an ethnocultural self-designation by ancient Iranian peoples, in contrast to an an-airya ("non-Arya.") It designated those who belonged to the "Aryan" (Iranian) ethnic stock, spoke the language, and followed the religion of the "Aryas." 12 Racial category. In the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, some scholars and others transformed the Aryans into a mythical "race" that they claimed was superior to other races. In Germany, the Nazis promoted this false notion that glorified the German people as members of the "Aryan race." At the same time, they denigrated Jews, Black people, and Roma (Gypsies) as "non-Aryans." 4 General label. In recent decades, white supremacists across the globe have started using the word "Aryan" as a general label for non-Jewish, white people Ancient Sanskrit "arya" = "our people," "noble," or people who followed a certain culture, language, and social world. Ancient Iranian "airya/ariya" = a similar idea: a cultural and ethnic self-description among early Iranian peoples. It did not originally mean "white people." The shift happened much later: In the 1700s–1800s, European scholars noticed similarities between Sanskrit, Persian, Germanic languages, Greek, Latin, and others.  Some people then made a leap from: "These languages are related" to "The speakers must come from one original people." Then some racial theorists stretched it even further: "That original people were a superior biological race." By the late 1800s and early 1900s, some writers in Europe—especially in German nationalist circles—started attaching northern European traits such as blond hair, blue eyes, and "whiteness" to this imagined "Aryan race." The Nazis later adopted and amplified that idea.  The oddity historians often point out is that the earliest "Aryan" references come from regions around ancient India and Iran, yet later European racial theories often reimagined "Aryan" as primarily northern European. That was not a direct continuation of the ancient meaning; it was a reinterpretation layered on top centuries later. A compact timeline: ~1500–500 BCE → "Arya" = cultural/linguistic identity  1700s–1800s → language comparisons begin  Late 1800s → racial theories emerge  1920s–1940s → Nazi racial ideology adopts "Aryan"    Aryan = a word used long ago by some ancient people to describe themselves, meaning something closer to "noble," "honorable," or "our people." Historically: In ancient India and Iran, forms of the word appeared in very old texts. It was originally connected to language and cultural identity, not a modern race category. In the 1800s, some European writers and racial theorists began using the term differently and wrongly turned it into the idea of an "Aryan race." Later, the Nazis adopted and distorted that racial idea for their ideology.  So in one sentence: Originally: a cultural/self-description. Later: turned into a racial theory by later writers. *]:pointer-events-auto R6Vx5W_threadScrollVars scroll-mb-[calc(var(--scroll-root-safe-area-inset-bottom,0px)+var(--thread-response-height))] scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id= "request-WEB:a23c910f-3eef-4480-8a4d-b2fd2ae1d859-2" data-turn-id-container= "request-WEB:a23c910f-3eef-4480-8a4d-b2fd2ae1d859-2" data-testid= "conversation-turn-6" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn= "assistant"> Ancient Sanskrit "arya" = "our people," "noble," or people who followed a certain culture, language, and social world. Ancient Iranian "airya/ariya" = a similar idea: a cultural and ethnic self-description among early Iranian peoples. It did not originally mean "white people." The shift happened much later: In the 1700s–1800s, European scholars noticed similarities between Sanskrit, Persian, Germanic languages, Greek, Latin, and others. Some people then made a leap from: "These languages are related" to "The speakers must come from one original people." Then some racial theorists stretched it even further: "That original people were a superior biological race." By the late 1800s and early 1900s, some writers in Europe—especially in German nationalist circles—started attaching northern European traits such as blond hair, blue eyes, and "whiteness" to this imagined "Aryan race." The Nazis later adopted and amplified that idea. The oddity historians often point out is that the earliest "Aryan" references come from regions around ancient India and Iran, yet later European racial theories often reimagined "Aryan" as primarily northern European. That was not a direct continuation of the ancient meaning; it was a reinterpretation layered on top centuries later. A compact timeline: ~1500–500 BCE → "Arya" = cultural/linguistic identity 1700s–1800s → language comparisons begin Late 1800s → racial theories emerge 1920s–1940s → Nazi racial ideology adopts "Aryan" So your instinct is essentially: "Where did the white part enter the story?" Answer: not in the earliest usage—it entered later through 19th-century racial theories. In plain language:  Ancient Sanskrit "arya" = "our people," "noble," or people who followed a certain culture, language, and social world. Ancient Iranian "airya/ariya" = a similar idea: a cultural and ethnic self-description among early Iranian peoples. It did not originally mean "white people." The shift happened much later:  In the 1700s–1800s, European scholars noticed similarities between Sanskrit, Persian, Germanic languages, Greek, Latin, and others.   Some people then made a leap from:  "These languages are related"  to  "The speakers must come from one original people."  Then some racial theorists stretched it even further:  "That original people were a superior biological race."  By the late 1800s and early 1900s, some writers in Europe—especially in German nationalist circles—started attaching northern European traits such as blond hair, blue eyes, and "whiteness" to this imagined "Aryan race."   The Nazis later adopted and amplified that idea.   The oddity historians often point out is that the earliest "Aryan" references come from regions around ancient India and Iran, yet later European racial theories often reimagined "Aryan" as primarily northern European. That was not a direct continuation of the ancient meaning; it was a reinterpretation layered on top centuries later.  A compact timeline:  ~1500–500 BCE → "Arya" = cultural/linguistic identity   1700s–1800s → language comparisons begin   Late 1800s → racial theories emerge   1920s–1940s → Nazi racial ideology adopts "Aryan"   So your instinct is essentially: "Where did the white part enter the story?" Answer: not in the earliest usage—it entered later through 19th-century racial theories.  The Swastika Before Hitler: A 12,000-Year History One Symbol. Two Very Different Histories. When most people see the swastika today, they think of Nazi Germany, Adolf Hitler, World War II, and the Holocaust. That reaction is understandable. For millions of people around the world, the symbol became permanently associated with one of the darkest chapters in human history. What is often forgotten is that Hitler did not create the swastika. By the time the Nazi Party adopted it in 1920, the symbol had already existed for thousands of years and had appeared across multiple civilizations, religions, and continents. This page examines both histories: the ancient symbol and the modern symbol. The Ancient Swastika Archaeologists have discovered swastika-like designs dating back thousands of years. Some of the oldest examples have been found in Eastern Europe and are estimated to be as much as 10,000–12,000 years old. Over time, variations of the symbol appeared in: India China Japan Tibet Ancient Greece Ancient Rome Celtic cultures Nordic cultures Early Christian artwork Indigenous cultures in North America Although meanings varied, the symbol was commonly associated with: Good fortune Prosperity Life Eternity Harmony The sun Cosmic order For most of its history, the swastika was viewed as a positive symbol. India and the Origin of the Name The word swastika comes from Sanskrit. In Hindu traditions, the symbol is connected to well-being, prosperity, good fortune, and spiritual balance. Even today, swastikas can still be seen on: Temples Religious texts Homes Ceremonial objects Business openings Wedding decorations For many people in India, the symbol never lost its original meaning. Buddhism In Buddhism, the swastika traditionally represented: Good fortune Eternity Abundance The teachings of Buddha In Japan it is commonly called the Manji and is still used on maps to identify Buddhist temples. Visitors to Asia are often surprised to discover swastikas displayed openly because the symbol's meaning there developed very differently from its meaning in the modern West. Europe Before the Nazis Long before Adolf Hitler was born, swastika designs appeared throughout Europe. Examples have been found in: Greek pottery Roman mosaics Celtic artwork Nordic artifacts Archaeological sites connected to Troy The symbol was often connected to movement, life, the sun, continuity, or eternity. Early Christian Uses Many people are surprised to learn that swastika designs can also be found in Christian settings. Examples have been documented in: Roman catacombs Church mosaics Ancient churches in Ethiopia Medieval Christian artwork In these contexts the symbol carried none of the political meaning it would later acquire in the twentieth century. The Shift: 1800s–1920 During the late nineteenth century, European archaeologists, historians, linguists, and nationalist thinkers became increasingly interested in ancient civilizations. As discoveries from India, Greece, Troy, and other ancient sites became widely known, the swastika began appearing in scholarly publications, museums, books, and nationalist organizations. By the early twentieth century, the symbol was already circulating within some nationalist circles in Germany and Austria. Hitler did not discover the symbol in isolation. He encountered a symbol that was already being discussed and used in certain political and cultural movements. Hitler and the Nazi Party In 1920, Adolf Hitler adopted a stylized black swastika inside a white circle on a red background as the emblem of the Nazi Party. The design became one of the most recognizable political symbols in history. Over the next twenty-five years it became associated with: Nazi ideology Dictatorship World War II Concentration camps Genocide The Holocaust By 1945 the symbol's public meaning had changed dramatically. For much of the world, the swastika no longer represented luck or spirituality. It represented Nazi Germany. Why the Symbol Remains Controversial The swastika occupies a unique place in history. For thousands of years it was viewed as a sacred or positive symbol by many cultures. Yet in only a few decades, Nazi Germany transformed its public meaning across much of the world. Today, two historical realities exist side by side: Ancient Meaning Good fortune Prosperity Harmony Spirituality Eternity Religious symbolism Modern Western Meaning Nazism Hitler World War II Genocide Holocaust Totalitarianism Both histories are real. Understanding the swastika requires understanding both. The symbol itself did not begin as a Nazi symbol. But because of the events of the twentieth century, it became one of the most powerful examples in history of how a symbol's meaning can be transformed by those who adopt it. *]:pointer-events-auto R6Vx5W_threadScrollVars scroll-mb-[calc(var(--scroll-root-safe-area-inset-bottom,0px)+var(--thread-response-height))] scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id= "request-WEB:31f76e37-fe66-4f78-98a5-5e1ff820f9f7-14" data-turn-id-container= "request-WEB:31f76e37-fe66-4f78-98a5-5e1ff820f9f7-14" data-testid= "conversation-turn-30" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn= "assistant"> Late 1800s German and Austrian nationalist groups were already using swastikas before Hitler entered politics. The symbol was showing up in nationalist publications, postcards, clubs, and organizations because some people believed it represented ancient "Aryan" origins. The symbol was already floating around in that world.  1918 Germany loses World War I.  The country is in chaos:  monarchy collapses   economy crashes   political violence erupts   people are angry and looking for explanations   Many small nationalist groups appear.  1919 Hitler joins the German Workers' Party in Munich.  At this point there is not yet a famous Nazi flag.  1920 The party is renamed the Nazi Party.  Hitler later described wanting a symbol that would:  grab attention immediately   work on banners and flags   unify supporters   represent what he believed was an "Aryan" movement   He described choosing:  red background   white circle   black swastika   He later wrote that:  red represented the movement's social idea   white represented nationalism   the swastika represented what he called the struggle of the "Aryan man"   That explanation comes from Hitler's own later writing.  So the root is not:  India → Hitler directly  The sequence appears to have been much closer to this: The swastika existed for centuries across India, Central Asia, and parts of Europe. During the nineteenth century, European scholars became increasingly interested in ancient cultures, Sanskrit texts, archaeology, and comparative religion. As information spread through books, universities, museums, and scholarly publications, the swastika became more widely known in Europe. German and Austrian nationalist groups then began adopting the symbol and attaching new political meanings to it. By the time Adolf Hitler entered politics in 1919, the swastika was already circulating within some nationalist and völkisch movements. When Hitler adopted the symbol for the Nazi Party in 1920, he was not introducing something new. He was taking a symbol that was already known within the political environment he had entered and making it the official emblem of his movement. This is an important distinction. The historical evidence does not suggest that Hitler was sitting in a library searching through Hindu symbols and suddenly deciding that the swastika would make a good logo. Rather, he encountered a symbol that had already been moving through European scholarship, nationalist organizations, and racial theories for decades. The Nazi Party then standardized it, promoted it relentlessly, and ultimately fused it to the identity of the Third Reich. That is why the real story begins long before Hitler. To understand how the swastika became the symbol of Nazi Germany, you have to look at the decades before 1920, when scholars, writers, archaeologists, and political activists were already reshaping its meaning. By the time he arrived, the swastika had already been circulating for decades inside German nationalist circles. He selected a symbol that was already loaded with meanings created by other people before him.  The process was much less mysterious than people sometimes imagine. Hitler did not sit alone in a room discovering an ancient symbol. He walked into a political environment where the swastika was already being used by some German nationalist circles, and then he turned it into a mass political brand.  Here's how it unfolded in plain English:  1919: Hitler joins the German Workers' Party in Munich. Germany had just lost World War I. The old empire had collapsed, there was inflation, street violence, and political chaos. Small nationalist groups were everywhere, and many of them already used symbols, badges, colors, and myths about ancient German origins.  The swastika was already circulating in some of those circles before Hitler became the central figure.  Then Hitler started focusing on a practical problem:  "How do we make people instantly recognize us?"  He understood something from propaganda and advertising: movements need visual identity.  Think of what he was trying to create:  a flag people could see from a distance   something simple enough to print everywhere   something supporters could wear on armbands   something emotionally powerful   Hitler later described experimenting with designs and rejecting many possibilities.  He eventually settled on:  red background   white circle   black swastika tilted at an angle   According to Hitler's later explanation:  red was meant to attract attention and symbolize the movement's social message   white symbolized nationalism   the swastika symbolized what he believed was an "Aryan" struggle   But historians are careful here: that was Hitler explaining his choice after the fact, and politicians often rewrite their own stories.  The practical side may have mattered just as much:  The design was visually strong.  A black shape on a white circle against red is hard to ignore. Even from far away, people could identify it immediately.  The process appears to have unfolded something like this: By the time Adolf Hitler entered politics after World War I, the swastika was already circulating in some German and Austrian nationalist circles. It was not a new symbol and it was not Hitler's invention. Hitler recognized that the symbol had strong visual impact and had already been associated by certain nationalist groups with ideas of ancestry, identity, and nationhood. Rather than creating a new emblem, he adopted an existing one. He then redesigned and standardized its appearance for the Nazi Party. The swastika was placed inside a white circle on a red background, creating one of the most recognizable political flags in history. The party used the symbol everywhere. It appeared on flags, posters, pamphlets, banners, uniforms, badges, armbands, and public buildings. As the Nazi movement grew, the symbol became increasingly identified with the party itself. After Hitler came to power in 1933 and especially after World War II, the association became permanent in the minds of much of the world. What had once been an ancient symbol used across multiple cultures became, for many people, inseparable from Nazism and the crimes committed under the Nazi regime. The root question becomes interesting here because Hitler did not create the meaning from scratch. Much of the symbolic baggage had already been built by decades of nationalist writers and race theorists before he arrived.  Hitler's contribution was turning a symbol into a highly recognizable political brand and attaching it to a mass movement.  Ancient India and many other ancient cultures already used the swastika for thousands of years.  Then in the late 1700s and early 1800s, European scholars working in India began studying Sanskrit and ancient texts. British institutions in India started collecting manuscripts and translating them into European languages. One major figure was William Jones in the late 1700s. He and others noticed similarities between Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, and Germanic languages. That started a huge wave of excitement because people began thinking: "Maybe many European peoples and Indians came from an ancient common source." Then in the mid-to-late 1800s, German scholars became intensely interested in India.  One of the biggest names was Friedrich Max Müller. He translated and edited ancient Indian texts and made them available to Europe. Müller himself repeatedly argued that "Aryan" referred to language, not race.  But then the chain changes.  Other people took scholarly ideas and stretched them into something different:  "If languages are related..."  became:  "Maybe peoples are related..."  then:  "Maybe some peoples are more original or superior..."  Then another event happens:  1870s, Heinrich Schliemann excavated Troy and found swastika-like symbols on artifacts. He connected them to larger theories about ancient Indo-European peoples.  The swastika entered German intellectual life through nineteenth-century Sanskrit studies and archaeology, then nationalist writers transformed it into a German identity symbol before Hitler ever touched it.  Hitler inherited the last stage of a process already underway.  1870s–1880s  Archaeologists and scholars were already talking about the swastika. After excavations at Troy, the symbol began appearing in discussions of ancient Indo-European peoples. It was being treated as evidence of a very old shared civilization.  At this stage, it was still mostly:  "Look at this interesting ancient symbol."  Not:  "This is the German national symbol."  Now the swastika was no longer simply viewed as a symbol from India. Instead, some scholars and nationalist writers began presenting it as a symbol that appeared in ancient cultures connected to what they believed was a common ancestral past. As these ideas spread, the symbol gradually moved from religious and cultural discussions into political ones. By the late 1800s and early 1900s, German and Austrian nationalist writers were increasingly using the swastika in their own theories about ancestry, identity, and nationhood. Two names that frequently appear in discussions of the swastika's political use before Hitler are: Guido von List Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels Neither man discovered the symbol in India. Instead, they inherited ideas that had been circulating through academic, archaeological, and nationalist circles for decades. The path looked something like this: The swastika existed in ancient India and many other cultures for centuries. European scholars studying Sanskrit, religion, and archaeology brought increasing attention to the symbol during the nineteenth century. Research and translations spread through universities and scholarly publications across Europe. Nationalist writers then began attaching new meanings to the symbol, linking it to ancestry, identity, and race. Political movements adopted those interpretations. Finally, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party took the symbol and made it the central emblem of their movement. The symbol itself did not change overnight. Its meaning was gradually reshaped by the people who adopted it and the stories they attached to it. 1890s  The symbol starts moving into nationalist circles.  Guido von List (1848–1919)  List became one of the major figures pushing ideas about ancient Germanic roots.  He wrote about:  ancient Germanic religion   runes   racial ideas   myths of old German peoples   He increasingly used ancient symbols, including the swastika, as signs of supposed ancestral German traditions.  The argument became:  "This is not just an Indian symbol; this also belongs to our ancient people."    Early 1900s  Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels (1874–1954)  He published magazines and writings mixing:  race theories   mysticism   nationalism   selective readings of history   He used swastika imagery in some of his publications and organizations.  Now the message changes again:  "The symbol represents racial struggle and destiny."    1910s  The swastika starts appearing in:  nationalist clubs   flags   publications   badges   paramilitary groups   By the time Hitler entered politics in 1919, he did not have to discover the symbol.  He walked into a world where people had already spent 20–30 years loading the symbol with new meanings.  Hitler standardizes it into the Nazi emblem  1890–1915 period is where the symbol stops being mainly archaeology and starts becoming political identity. That is probably the closest thing to the "root inside Germany" you have been asking for.  Before roughly 1870  The swastika in Europe was mostly:  an archaeological curiosity   a decorative symbol   a good-luck sign   evidence of ancient cultures   People even used it casually on postcards, buildings, advertisements, and jewelry. In the West it had not yet become toxic or political.  Meaning:  "Interesting old symbol."    1870–1890  After Sanskrit studies and archaeological discoveries gained attention, some people began connecting the symbol with theories about ancient Indo-European peoples.  The meaning starts drifting:  "Maybe this symbol connects ancient peoples."  Still not evil.    1890–1915 — the real shift  The Turning Point This is where things begin to change. For thousands of years, the swastika was used by many different cultures. It appeared in India, Central Asia, parts of Europe, and elsewhere. It was generally associated with ideas such as luck, prosperity, harmony, or religious belief. Then, in the late 1800s, some nationalist writers began looking at the symbol differently. The question was no longer: "What does this symbol mean?" The question became: "Who does this symbol belong to?" That may sound like a small difference, but it changed everything. The swastika stopped being viewed as a shared symbol found in many cultures. Instead, some writers began claiming it represented a particular ancestry, a particular people, and eventually a particular race. Over time, the argument grew stronger. The symbol was presented as evidence of identity. Then evidence of heritage. Then evidence of superiority. This was the real turning point. The first change was not that a symbol of peace became a symbol of evil. The first change was that a shared symbol became a claimed symbol. Once people claim ownership of a symbol, they can also decide who belongs and who does not. By the time Hitler adopted the swastika in 1920, this process had already been underway for decades. The Nazis did not discover the symbol. They inherited an idea that had been developing since the late nineteenth century and pushed it to its most extreme conclusion. 1920 onward  Hitler then takes a symbol that had already been loaded with identity and race ideas and attaches it to:  a political party   propaganda   mass rallies   dictatorship   war   genocide   After that, the symbol becomes permanently altered in much of the West.  1890–1915 the question quietly changed from:  "What does this symbol represent?"  to:  "Who owns this symbol and what does it prove about us?"  That is the pivot point.  During that period, the Sassoons were no longer a refugee merchant family that had just arrived in Bombay. They had already become wealthy and deeply connected to British imperial and educational structures.  Around 1890–1915, several things were happening simultaneously:  In Germany and Austria  Nationalist writers were increasingly attaching ancient symbols like the swastika to ideas about ancestry and identity.   Race theories and "Aryan" narratives were becoming more common in certain nationalist circles.   The swastika was beginning to move from archaeology into politics.   At the same time, the Sassoon world looked like this:  1890  The Sassoons had major operations running through:   Bombay   Shanghai   Hong Kong   London   1890s  Later generations of the family were increasingly entering British elite society.   Educational philanthropy, libraries, scholarships, and civic projects continued.   1892  Edward Albert Sassoon entered the British Parliament.   Late 1890s–1900s  Family members held roles in:   municipal bodies   banking   university systems   government councils   1901–1910  The family had become tied to major British political and financial circles in London.   1914–1915  World War I begins.   Britain, Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Russia are colliding politically.   Now the interesting thing is what isn't showing up.  During 1890–1915, I do not see documented evidence of the Sassoons appearing inside:  German nationalist groups   German race theory movements   swastika organizations   early Nazi circles   pre-Hitler nationalist symbolism campaigns   Instead, the family appears in:  British commerce   universities   philanthropy   government-linked institutions   imperial networks   So if you're building a timeline for your research thread, it may look like:  1870–1890 German scholars study India and ancient symbols    1890–1915 German and Austrian nationalist writers begin changing meanings around identity    1890–1915 (parallel track) Sassoons become increasingly integrated into British educational, political, and financial structures    1920 Hitler adopts an already-circulating symbol  The reason your question is useful is that these timelines overlap in time. But right now the documentary trail shows parallel tracks, not a direct bridge. The bridge, if there is one, would need a specific connection such as a scholar, institution, manuscript exchange, or individual moving between those worlds.  Timeline: Sassoons, India, and the Swastika Question Ancient India (thousands of years before the Sassoons) The swastika already existed throughout India. It appeared in Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain traditions as a symbol of good fortune, prosperity, and spiritual meaning. The symbol existed long before Germany, Nazism, or modern racial theories. 1792 David Sassoon born in Baghdad. 1832–1833 David Sassoon fled persecution and settled in Bombay (now Mumbai). The Sassoon commercial empire begins expanding. 1830s–1860s Sassoon wealth expands through: cotton shipping trade India–China opium commerce Bombay becomes one of the British Empire's major crossroads. 1840s–1870s The Sassoons begin major philanthropy: libraries schools hospitals civic projects educational institutions Examples: David Sassoon Library Sassoon Docks Question: Did their money help create intellectual infrastructure? Answer: Yes.   Mid–late 1800s Separately, another process is happening: European scholars become fascinated with: Sanskrit Vedic texts archaeology comparative religion ancient symbols People like: Friedrich Max Müller begin translating and discussing Indian materials. 1870s–1900 German and Austrian nationalist circles begin transforming "Aryan" from a language concept into racial ideas. The swastika begins appearing in nationalist and occult circles. People later associated with this phase include: Guido von List Open question you are asking Did Sassoon-funded institutions become part of the pipeline through which Indian material moved into Europe? Current status: Sassoons in India while swastika existed → Yes ✔ Sassoons funded institutions → Yes ✔ Institutions can spread ideas → Yes ✔ Direct evidence that Sassoon institutions transmitted swastika/Aryan ideology → Not demonstrated ❓ The key thing the timeline shows is something important: The symbol already existed before the Sassoons arrived. So the historical question becomes less: "Did they create the symbol?" and more: "Did their institutions or networks help shape the channels through which knowledge traveled?" That is a narrower and stronger question than assuming the endpoint first. Adolf Hitler's relations with India.  Times of India.  Adolf Hitler, the infamous Nazi dictator, had a complex and contradictory relationship with India and its people. On one hand, he admired the ancient Indian culture and appropriated the swastika symbol as a sign of Aryan supremacy. On the other hand, he despised the modern Indians as an inferior race and supported the British colonial rule over India. In this blog post, we will explore some of the aspects of Hitler's connection with India, based on historical sources and evidence.  One of the most prominent figures who tried to establish a link between Nazi Germany and India was Subhas Chandra Bose, a revolutionary leader of the Indian National Army (INA) who sought Hitler's help in overthrowing the British Raj. Bose met Hitler in 1942 and requested him to delete some of the anti-India passages from his autobiography Mein Kampf, where Hitler had written that India was better off under British domination and that Indians could not even walk properly. Hitler refused to do so and showed little interest in Bose's plan of staging a revolt in India. However, he did help Bose escape to Japan, where he joined forces with the Japanese army against the Allies.  Another aspect of Hitler's relationship with India was his fascination with ancient India and Hinduism, especially as propagated by Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS and one of Hitler's closest associates. Himmler was obsessed with the idea of finding the origins of the Aryan race in India and believed that the Vedas, the ancient Hindu scriptures, contained secrets of cosmic power and warfare. He collected books on Indian philosophy, religion, and history and even sent an expedition to Tibet in 1938 to look for traces of Aryan ancestry. Himmler also tried to emulate some of the practices of Hindu ascetics, such as fasting, meditation, and vegetarianism.  However, Hitler's admiration for ancient India did not translate into respect for contemporary Indians, whom he regarded as degenerate and unworthy of independence. He often praised the British for their imperial rule over India and considered it a model for his own plans of conquering Russia and Eastern Europe. He also treated the Indian students and professionals living in Nazi Germany with contempt and suspicion, arresting many of them without charges or expelling them from the country. He also ignored the atrocities committed by his ally Japan against Indian civilians and prisoners of war.  Thus, Hitler's connection with India was largely based on his distorted and selective interpretation of Indian culture and history, which served his ideological agenda of racial supremacy and global domination. He had no genuine sympathy or understanding for the Indian people or their struggle for freedom. His image as a friend of India, which persists among some sections of Indian society even today, is completely flawed and misleading.  Nazi Germany's Fascination With Ancient India: The Case Of Heinrich Himmler     More than 65 years after the fall of the Third Reich, Nazi Germany remains an obsession with millions of people around the world. Adolf Hitler remains one of the most prominent historical figure from the 20th century, evoking both disgust and fascination. While other totalitarian regimes -- including Fascist Italy and imperial Japan -- have faded in the public's fascination, Nazi Germany still exerts a powerful hold on many for a variety of reasons. Among the most interesting and perplexing aspects of the Nazi regime was its connection to India and Hinduism. Indeed, Hitler took the most prominent symbol of ancient India -- the swastika -- as his own. The link between Nazi Germany and ancient India, however, goes deeper than the swastika symbol. The Nazis venerated the notion of a "pure, noble Aryan race," who are believed to have invaded India thousands of years ago and established a society based on a rigid social structure, or castes. While scholars in India and Europe have rejected the notion of an "Aryan race, the myths and legends of ancient Vedic-Hindu India have imparted a tremendous influence on Germany. Perhaps the most fervent Nazi adherent to Indian Hindu traditions was Heinrich Himmler, one of the most brutal members of the senior command. Himmler, responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews as architect of the Holocaust, was a highly complex and fascinating man. He was also obsessed with India and Hinduism. International Business Times spoke with an expert on German history to explore Himmler and Hinduism. Mathias Tietke is a German author, editor and yoga enthusiast. His books include "Yoga in the Third Reich. Concepts, Contrasts, Consequences." IB TIMES: Heinrich Himmler was reportedly fascinated by Hinduism and ancient Indian culture and had read the Bhagavad Gita, among other classic Indian texts. How and when was he introduced to Indian culture? Was it prior to his joining the Nazi party, or afterward? TIETKE: As early as 1925, when Himmler was only 24 years old and had joined the SS, and just two years after Adolf Hitler's beer hall putsch, Himmler wrote: Kshatriyakaste, that is how we need to be. This is the salvation. ["Kshatriyakaste" referred to the military and ruling elite of the Vedic-Hindu social system of ancient India.] Himmler was deeply influenced by the Indologist, yoga scholar and SS Capt. Jakob Wilhelm Hauer of the University of Tübingen in Germany and the Italian philosopher Baron Julius Evola. Himmler had a keen interest in the Rigveda and the Bhagavad Gita. According to his personal massage therapist, Felix Kersten, Himmler carried a copy of the Bhagavad Gita in his pocket from 1941 until his death four years later. The book was a translation by the German theosophist, Dr. Franz Hartmann. IB TIMES: Germany's fascination with India and its culture started in the 19th century, no? That is, long before the advent of the Nazis? TIETKE: Yes, that's true. The fascination with and admiration of Indian culture can be found as early as the 19th century in the writings of pro-Aryan and anti-Semitic German philosophers and theosophists -- always in relation to Indian classical texts. In 1844, the German philosopher Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph Schelling highlighted in his lectures the same passage from the fourth chapter of the Bhagavad Gita, which 100 years later would fascinate Himmler – so much so that he dictated this passage to his massage therapist. This passage emphasizes that a person's identity does not have to be defined by one's actions -- that is, even if they commit evil acts, they can still remain untainted and unaffected by ones' own actions. Moreover, in 1851, the German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer raved about the enthusiastic spirit of the Vedas and the Upanishads, citing that his spirit is washed clean of all his early inoculated Jewish superstitions. IB TIMES: Is it true Himmler could read and speak Sanskrit fluently? Where and how did he learn such a difficult foreign language? TIETKE: Himmler read translations of Indian texts from well-known German and Austrian Indologists. However, there is no evidence that he had mastered or read the original Sanskrit editions. IB TIMES: As Reichsführer of the SS, Chief of the German Police, Minister of the Interior and head of Gestapo and the Einsatzgruppen killing squads, Himmler was responsible for the murders of millions of people. How did he reconcile such brutality with the tenets of Hinduism, which is a generally peaceful philosophy? TIETKE: Himmler had clear preferences with some of the scriptures of Hinduism. One was his interest in the Rig Veda, which in some places is imbued with much violence. The other was the Bhagavad Gita, which he greatly admired and appreciated. Himmler particularly referred to Krishna's instructions on satisfying one's duty on the battlefield and not to identify with such actions. In a poem written by Himmler, which I discovered in the Federal Archive in Koblenz, he tells stories about the holy life [that] unfolds itself on deadly born. For the period after the war, the Reichsführer-SS Himmler was already planning a retreat. He recommended that there should be sour milk and brown bread as physical food for his men and the Bhagavad Gita as spiritual nourishment and as the subject for meditation. IB TIMES: Aside from millions of Jews, Himmler was also responsible for the mass murder of up to half-million Roma (Gypsies). Did he not realize that the Roma are of Indian descent themselves? TIETKE: Himmler even killed his own comrades or SS officers, if, in his view, it served the supposedly higher cause, i.e., the ideology of National Socialism. Himmler was not really sympathetic so much to the complexities Indian culture, but rather to the ideal of the Kshatriya [warrior caste of India] and to the ideals of purity. IB TIMES: The Bhagavad Gita is partially about the adventures of Arjuna, the world's greatest warrior. Did Himmler fantasize that he was a 20th-century version of Arjuna "fighting for the glory of the Aryans"? TIETKE: Yes, I think so and there are such statements to confirm this. In fact, in an effort to explain his murderous violence, Himmler told his massage therapist Kersten that it would naturally be more pleasant to deal with the flower beds, instead of the sweepings pile and the garbage disposal of the state-- but without that garbage collection, the flower beds would not flourish." IB TIMES: Did Himmler view Hitler as his "god" Krishna – like a reincarnation of the deity? TIETKE: Yes, there were statements by Himmler in which he described Hitler as incarnation of a great shining light, as a predestined karma of the Germanic world. Indeed, Himmler equated Hitler with Krishna. In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna declared that he will always be reborn when the peoples' sense of right and truth disappeared and injustice ruled the world. Himmler commented that this verse related directly to Hitler. IB TIMES: Did Himmler envision the SS as a modern version of the ancient Kshatriya Hindu warrior caste? TIETKE: Absolutely. Himmler conceived of the SS as a kind of "spiritual" order. He demanded loyalty, moral integrity, and also required that his men never acted from base motives. However, he also required his men to have a pure conscience -- inwardly cold, sober and willing to kill for a higher purpose. IB TIMES: Discuss Himmler's fascination with yoga and what he sought to gain from the practice. TIETKE: What Himmler had sought and found in yoga was legitimacy, relieving his conscience and overcoming his doubts. The concept of purity is found both in the writings of yoga as well as in the ideology of National Socialism --- that is, the idea that one has to detach oneself from such concepts as "good" and "bad." This was conveyed to me in 1997 in a weekend seminar in my training as a yoga teacher: Three days of the seminar were based around the Bhagavad Gita. In fact, according to the assertions of speaker, it was the "karma" [fate, deeds] of the Jews to be destroyed, and it was the "dharma" [nature, order] of the Wehrmacht and the SS, to wage war. I did not agree with these assertions. IB TIMES: Did Himmler (and other top Nazis) use the Bhagavad Gita as a kind of a "blueprint" for the Holocaust and World War II? TIETKE: The Bhagavad Gita was for Himmler and also for top Nazi ideologue Alfred Rosenberg an important source of inspiration and legitimacy. They could refer to an ancient and sacred text to which British-German philosopher Houston Stewart Chamberlain and German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche had already referred to. In their comments they wrote of the "Aryan race" and the "Aryan belief" (Chamberlain) and about the superman (Übermensch), the [lower-caste] Sudras as the servant race and the degenerates of all caste and about the eject materials in perpetuity (Nietzsche). IB TIMES: During World War II, there was a community of Indian nationalists living in Berlin. The most prominent of these was Subhash Chandra Bose, who met with many top Nazi officials, including Himmler, Joachim von Ribbentrop, Hermann Goering and Hitler himself. Is it true that Himmler was genuinely interested in helping Bose achieving independence for India (whereas most of the other German leaders only used Bose in a ploy to stoke anti-British sentiments in India)? TIETKE: I did not find any signs of Himmler having a genuine interest in the independence struggles of India. However, Himmler agreed with Bose's requests to allow for participation in a police training course of selected Indian soldiers in Germany. 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Still think you're independent."  IRS Forces U.S. Citizens To Pay A Percentage Of Their Taxes To The Queen Of The UK Deep State – Political Vel Craft     References USA History   UNITED STATES is a Corporation - There are Two Constitutions - Sovereignty    Federal Reserve - The Enemy of America    A history lesson for Americans. You're still British. – Patriots for Truth    bankruptcyofus.pdf    War and Emergency Powers       Media Release: The People Are the Enemy    "Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency Powers listed:    Seize property     Organize and control production     Seize commodities     Assign military forces abroad     Institute martial law     Seize transportation     Seize communications     Regulate private enterprise     Restrict travel     Control lives of citizens     (Source attributed in text: Senate Report 93-549)    14th Amendment | AntiCorruption Society        The IRS is not a US government agency.  It is an agency of the IMF (International Monetary Fund) (Diversified Metal Products v I.R.S et al.  CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391).        The IMF (International Monetary Fund) is an agency of the U.N.     (Black's Law Dictionary 6th Ed. page 816)        The United States has NOT had a Treasury since 1921 (41 Stat. Ch 214 page 654)        The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF (International Monetary Fund) (Presidential Documents Volume 24-No. 4 page 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-2887)        The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States! No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of bankruptcy it is finally over. (Executive Order 12803)        The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never  part of the U.S. government, even though the "U.S. Government" held stock in the agencies. (U.S. v Strang, 254 US491 Lewis v. US, 680 F.2nd, 1239)        Social Security Numbers are issued by the U.N. through the IMF (International Monetary Fund). The application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 Form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 forms and not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who publishes them while the old form states they are "Department of the Treasury". (20 CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) Chap. 111 Subpart B. 422.103 (b))        There are NO Judicial Courts in America and have not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464 Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat 138-178)        There have NOT been any judges in America since 1789. There have just been administrators.  (FRC v. GE 281 US 464 Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1 Stat. 138-178)        According to GATT (The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade) you MUST have a Social Security number. (House Report (103-826)        New York City is defined in Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Guiliani stated on C-Span that "New York City is the capital of the World." For once, he told the truth. (20 CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) Chap. 111, subpart B 44.103 (b) (2) (2) )        Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund.  (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619 Steward Co. v. Davis 301 US 548)        Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF (International Monetary Fund), which is an agency of the United Nations. (It says "U.S. Department of Treasury" at the top left corner, which again is part of the U.N. as pointed out above)        You own NO property!! Slaves can't own property. Read carefully the Deed to the property you think is yours.  You are listed as a TENANT. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)        The most powerful court in America is NOT the United States Supreme court, but rather the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 PA. C.S.A. 502)        The King of England financially backed both sides of the American Revolutionary War..   (Treaty of Versailles-July 16, 1782 Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)        You CANNOT use the U.S. Constitution to defend yourself because you are NOT a party to it!  The U.S. Constitution applies to the CORPORATION OF THE UNITED STATES, a privately owned and operated corporation (headquartered out of Washington, DC) much like IBM (International Business Machines, Microsoft, et al) and NOT to the people of the sovereign Republic of the united States of America.  (Padelford Fay & Co. v The Mayor and Alderman of the City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)        America is a British Colony.  The United States is a corporation, not a land mass and it existed before the Revolutionary War and the British Troops did not leave until 1796 (Republica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774)        Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)        The Pope can abolish any law in the United States (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol. 1, 53-54)        A 1040 Form is for tribute paid to Britain (IRS Publication 6209)        The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery.  (Papal Bulls of 1495 & 1493)        The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.(Papal Bulls of 1455 & 1493)        The Pope's laws are obligatory on everyone.  (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix, c. vii, n. 4. Prati, 1844 Syllabus Prop 28, 29, 44)        We are slaves and own absolutely nothing, NOT even what we think are our children.  (Tillman vs. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten vs. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 438 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)        Military dictator George Washington divided up the States (Estates) in to Districts  (Messages and papers of the Presidents Volume 1 page 99 1828 Dictionary of Estate)      "The People" does NOT include you and me. (Barron vs. Mayor and City Council of Baltimore 32 U.S. 243)       It is NOT the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers. (SAPP vs. Tallahassee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, REiff vs. City of Phila. 477 F. 1262, Lynch vs. NC Dept. of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247)      Every thing in the "United States" is up for sale: bridges, roads, water, schools, hospitals, prisons, airports, etc, etc… Did anybody take time to check who bought Klamath Lake?? (Executive Order 12803)        "We are human capital" (Executive Order 13037)  The world cabal makes money off of the use of your signatures on mortgages, car loans, credit cards, your social security number, etc.         The U.N. – United Nations – has financed the operations of the United States government (the corporation of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) for over 50 years (U.S. Department of Treasury is part of the U.N. see above) and now owns every man, woman and child in America.       The U.N. also holds all of the land of America in Fee Simple.   The good news is we don't have to fulfill "our" fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another's fictitious obligation.       Source: Stop The Pirates: These documents are NOT secret! They ARE a matter of Public Record.