Holy Fools, Indie Film, and Finding God: Josh David Jordan on El Tonto Por Cristo

In this deep and engaging interview, filmmaker Josh David Jordan joins Matthew Wilkinson to explore the inspiration, philosophy, and cinematic influences behind his latest project, El Tonto Por Cristo. From Tarkovsky’s meditative pacing to the spiritual starkness of Robert Bresson, Jordan opens up about his creative process, the challenges of low-budget filmmaking, and the delicate balance between art, audience, and authenticity. The conversation covers everything from editing heartbreaks to the importance of restraint in storytelling, as well as the legacy of great directors like Wim Wenders, Béla Tarr, and the Coen Brothers.The two also dive into broader artistic questions—what makes great cinema, how to avoid chasing novelty for its own sake, and why true art often finds its audience years later. Jordan reflects on the tension between humility and confidence, the value of patience in a fast-paced digital age, and how his Orthodox Christian faith informs his vision as a filmmaker. Whether you're a cinephile, a student of filmmaking, or simply interested in spiritual cinema and the fool-for-Christ tradition, this conversation offers a rare look into the heart of a director creating boldly outside the Hollywood mold.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Filmmaking and Influences07:22 The Role of Editing in Film13:33 The Importance of Patience in Art19:26 The Evolution of Acting and Performance25:22 The Impact of Technology on Creativity31:15 The Legacy of Art and Its Reception42:02 The Impact of Art on Family and Community47:45 The Balance of Humility and Confidence53:13 Influences in Filmmaking: Directors and Philosophies01:13:04 The Balance of Art and Authenticity01:18:05 The Impact of Iconic Cinema01:24:47 The Emotional Resonance of Cinema01:31:16 Tarkovsky's Legacy and Influence01:37:30 The Importance of Mystery in Storytelling01:44:17 The Fine Line of Comedy and Drama01:52:06 Balancing Creativity and Mental Health01:57:25 The Impact of Iconic Directors02:03:24 The Role of Entertainment in Cinema02:14:33 Intentionality in Filmmaking02:19:41 Literary Influences and Symbolism02:25:40 Cultural Reception and Audience Response02:41:32 Black and White Aesthetic Choices