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Thank you very much. Very happy to be here. Bit of a while. Yeah.
Things are good. You're running... Yeah, these are great. Just people love me.
Whatever that's on this. Was that a tale? The cat's nailed it. Nice.
Nice one, Rumble. Talent. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very interested in your karate journey because I have been accidentally put into karate myself.
And you guys have the karate event. You've got a TV show coming out? Is it out or is it coming out? Yes, now it's coming September 16th.
It's going to be Costa Rica. That's the first show there in that place. And it's like the ultimate fighter, like in a house of guys or something. No, no, no, no.
That's another show. It's called The Kumbate. This is where we... That's not in the house, by the way.
That's just fighting, but that's to discover new talent. So it's a little bit different rules. They got shin guards, you know, and the guys who stand out, we just had a few... But the show is running so I can't say who won.
But there's a few guys that have a contact now to go to Karate Combat, full contact, no shin guards, no no. So it's Karate getting bigger in athletes in Karate, getting enough money to just be in Karate? Yes, at this moment it is, because we have the best guys. We have guys who fight in the Olympics.
And they fight now full contact. So it's kind of cool because like four and a half years ago, they started the company and I was there. And some of these guys didn't cross-string yet. So they would connect with somebody and it would stop.
Because normally it's like point and they stop. But then the other guy would just keep going. And he got a big result. And they started boxing, he came boxing on the side.
And now you see because they're a little bit level athletes. Dude, we have some good guys. We had Rafael Agayev, who's considered the gold of Karate. Five world times, 11 European times.
The guy is freaking massive. His third match that he fought full contact fights Raymond Daniels. Who is like, I mean, if I had to put my house as a bat, you put it on Raymond Daniels. I mean, there's no way he's gonna lose.
Why he lost. So that by itself, that fight was everybody's eyes open. They got like, whoa, so Karate is real. You know, there's a lot of these people still don't think.
These guys are good men. And the way it's filled, go to karate.com, it's free. You don't have to pay anything. It's in the pit.
It's got 45 degree angle walls that you can use. So it's also takedowns with five seconds ground and punch. So you can literally pick up a guy, which started doing already running up the wall. And then from the high-tech throws, the guy down and start to rain down strikes.
And you get how long? How many strikes? Five seconds with the strikes. And then the ref stops the stand back out.
That's no way. But you can finish him right there. You can finish him right there. And also, if you fall against the wall, you're not considered down.
So we already had a knockout from our champion, Ross Levine, who were a very propped guy. The guy fell with his back against the wall. And he was standing and he made an Osiro Molashiyo. It was a really spinning, cool heel kick right on the jaw.
Super bad as if you can ever pull it off, Ross Levine. What's the one where, not in your karate combat? I think maybe Olympian, something where the guy won by a headkick. He knocked out.
Because he knocked the guy out, he got disqualified. You know what I'm talking about. He said what happened to say, you won! He said, you know what he said, he said, you know what he said?
Makes no sense. Right. We went after those guys to see if they would like to fight full contact on our show, but they declined, unfortunately. Really?
Yeah, that would have been good. Because, listen, did you see it? Yes. He dipped into it with his own hands, right?
I mean, it was kind of his own fault. The guy should have never won. And imagine who, do you want to win like that? They wake you up and they say you're the Olympic champion?
Yeah, they're both losing. It's kind of weird, right? Yeah, it's Obama. Yeah, it's Obama.
No, but now, because that never really made sense to me, but now because of mixed martial arts, I mean, you've been involved in all of these different versions for so many years. Only the light is on it now, but for karate, the way it is, the way you guys are making it, it's kind of become its own, its own new thing, because we're not going to take points. We're not going to watch it. Yep.
It's got to be real, because we've seen the UFC and all these other places, we know what to knock out, what a real fight is, and now you're doing that. Yeah, but the cool thing about this is imagine you're 12-year-old son, what's up? And he says, hey, Dad, I want to watch you see. I don't know about that.
I don't know about that. But he says, hey, Dad, can I watch karate tonight? Sure, I think the whole family's going to join, because karate is a household name, everybody knows it. So I think that opens a lot of doors.
And now, especially when you see the guy like Ralph Eilikai beating a really high level kickboxer, they got us. Crap, this is real. These guys are really good. So that's an excellent point.
Because if the kid gets really in the UFC, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to send a 12-year-old down to the local MMA gym. That's what I mean. But karate lessons positively. And then we've got great guys, GSB, runs the show sometimes with us, we've got Leo DiMaccino, helps us out, Stephen Wandaboy Thompson, all karate guys.
So, and our pleasure to work with, man. It's a whole different fight, because the structure of karate, the respect they have, you see some guys they get in their faces, and they yell each other, and as soon as they stop in front, they bow, shake their hands. I mean, there's a lot of respect going on. Do you think there's better sportsmanship?
I think way better. It's martial arts. Yeah, I totally believe so. I think if you...
It means it was more of a martial art from the get-go, right? That's it. That's it. That's the thing.
That's the thing. That's the thing that's... That's the thing that's martial arts, and then that's the combinations, I guess. Exactly.
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Oh. And it was so much talk leading up to that. And I said, but here's the great thing, you're gonna see what they're gonna do afterwards. It'll be nothing but respect.
Yeah. It's all, it's all right. They're in the hedges. Yeah.
Could not have picked the worst. Yeah. He was flying Eagle, but he did the audience. That was the worst showing of MMA.
Oh, yeah. And that was his first flight. You watched? Yeah.
I can't really select it. Yeah. He did the homework. Yeah.
That really worked out. I had this mini heel kick video right here. Oh, watch this. How cool is this?
You can, the guy show control. Poof, watch this. Oh, dude. That he's like blows me away with everything.
He is so in control the whole time. Oh, what is it? OK. They could have started striking when they fell down.
Yes. No, no, no, no. Especially when there's a clinch, no. As soon as somebody grabs somebody, it's over.
He's fast. Oh, yeah. I like the arena. Yeah, right.
And look at the background. It's like futuristic. You see cars flying over. It's like all really cool, like game and show.
It's everything, you know? The audience, very close there. It looks like a fun Superman punches and stuff. Yeah.
OK. So the wall's perfect. Yeah. The wall.
What is the ring called? Do you guys have a name for it? The pit. Welcome to the pit.
We have this guy with his over-dropatic voice. It makes sense. You look like a friend here. Look at this.
Yeah. It's weird when cute things like you. Don't take this the wrong way. But it's weird when you be friendly, cute.
He goes to a big arm door. He's all at your feet. Next door, he's so he kind of felt the power. And then we're going to week aside.
Smuck it. Yeah, he's a very intuitive fighter. Yeah. Gets at that.
Oh, so cute. Hey, I saw a video of you talking about it because I don't believe in ghosts, right? Yeah. And then I saw a video of you.
Because I know you, you know what I mean? Like you, you're on the planet, you know? Yeah. I mean, something moving for sure.
Something moving for sure. I got attacked by it like six times. What? Physically, oh, shh.
And it's felt something touchy. No. Completely sitting on my chest. Now the people go to sleep or else.
I'm awake, dude. I'm looking around. I can move my arms. I just can't come from it.
There's a whole pressure on my chest. I tried to make my legs throughout the bed. Try to pull myself up. But the pressure was way too high.
Couldn't get it off really freaking. And I would only wait to get off of it. And I'd always sit the time before I got back to the face. And there was a lot of profanity.
I was getting super aggressive and scream. And then it would leave. Then there's the same freaking thing. We come home one day.
No, first of all, I'm sitting down in the middle of the night when I have to pee because I don't have to turn the light on. So I'd always place all over the place. I wouldn't do that. So I'm sitting down.
I see my wife walking by. She goes to the kitchen. So I figured she's going to get the water or something. So I go to bed.
She's in bed. I got the gun. I started going to the house. Wow.
No, no, no. No, no. I got it that quick. So then I come home with the whole family around nine o'clock at night and open the door.
And I go, somebody's in the house. And she goes, what? I said, I died now, I'm on one. I said, just hit center when you hear something.
I said, don't worry. I know where everything is. We'll be OK. So now we had a when you walk in, there's a wall, and there's an open kitchen.
And there is a dining room. It's there. And in the back is the kitchen. And it's divided by a wall.
So I thought this guy wasn't this side of the wall. So I started walking here, making a lot of noise, hoping he would do this. And I would come around the corner and grab him. Now we had a door that went to the kitchen.
And instead of a door, the door to post, the door post. I was hanging a thick curtain. And I come running around the curtain. And the curtain flies up against the ceiling.
So I keep running because the person just ran through it. There was nobody in the freaking house. Then we moved out of the house. This is crazy.
You're going to follow it. No, no, no. That's not it. And now that goes.
That's not it. That's not it. That's not it. This was something else.
Right away from day one, my daughter was sleeping upstairs. And I asked the next day. That was the cat. The cat was jumping up.
You mentioned Superman punches. That was a Superman punch. Oh, that was so funny. It's like one punch, too.
Sorry. So we go there. She sleeps next day. We're having breakfast.
How was she goes first night? And she goes to one upstairs goes. It was good. I had a visit from two boys.
And I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up. I said, spirits. And she goes, yeah.
I say, you're not freaking out. But there's nobody should freak out. She goes, no, no, they're really nice. Until I asked one, I said, hey, could you please stop?
Because I want to go out sleep. But he kept pushing on the bed the whole time. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. How old?
She says I have 16, 17. And it's crazy. So I go downstairs, go to the computer. If something ever happened at this house, all in 2012 and Christmas poor freakin' parents from these kids, four kids, three boys and a girl went out of control.
They wrote next to us, drove through my wall. So I'm looking outside, where did I repair the wall? Two boys night, 17 years old. I go, OK.
And that's when I got reintroduced into the face with all these things that I already had. And then it started making perfect sense. I go, oh crap, there's way more going on. There's this story that I read in Holland.
There's this surgeon. And it wasn't the ER. And a lot of people passing away, but they would say that they would come back to life like after a minute, they saw it near that experience. And they would say that they would float over them.
They could see exactly what they were doing. And you were saying this to her and this to her. And everything was working, but the guy goes like, yeah, but maybe they could still hear. They weren't really there.
Tilled as one guy, guys, and they bring him back. He says the same thing. And then he said, and it was something weird. He says, because I went to the room next door, and that's where my mom and dad were.
And it was so weird. My dad was smoking. And I know my dad doesn't smoke. And everybody freaked out because his dad was in such a panic.
He was actually in the room next door. So now this guy goes, OK, he really had an out of body experience. So without telling anybody, he put these symbols on the top of the lighting, like a square triangle, a circle in the heart. And sure enough, the next guy who passed away, he said, he was passed away and then came back.
Yeah. So that happens a lot. And this guy goes, yeah, I could see what you guys were doing. He says, did you notice anything about the lights?
Did you see anything on there? He says, oh, yeah, some sort of a heart and a square, and then he freaked and said it. So that's when he realized, OK, that's the soul that leaves the body. You see, so once you hear all these things and then you get physically attacked, and you see a curtain flying up right in front of your face, and you see the person walking, and then you hear the story from my daughter with the two boys, and we check out, which happened.
I go, OK, yeah, there's something more going on in this life that we can't see. Were you skeptical about paranormal stuff before that? No, I was always feeling that something was there. But I was never, you know, I had this.
The way they got me back was weird, because I was very sick, I had a horrible skin disease. I was the lapper in school. They said that's why I started fighting, of course. Bad lungs, too, right?
Bad lungs, bad asthma, everything was bad. And I took a lot of insane amount of medication. And because of that, I don't remember a lot from when I was a kid. I was taking 45 pills there, I remember that.
There was a lot of cortisones, I'd wish later killed my career because they didn't know the long-term effects from cortisone, the weak and the tendons and all that stuff. So that was not good. What was the tie-in? I asked you if you were predisposed to think that paranormal stuff was real.
Yeah, but what I was going with this freaking story, right? But I do remember one thing. And it was the one thing when I was 10 years old, I was sitting in the classroom and I was staring outside and I was mesmerized by this tree. It was really weird.
And I tried, I heard the teacher try to get a hold of me and the kids are laughing and suddenly he's getting angry. He said, well, that's what he's doing. I said, I'm looking at the tree. He goes, what is what?
It's about the tree. I said, what does it come from? He goes, it's a planet area. I don't understand that.
But the tree before, the tree before, if you go all the way back, where do trees come from? And that was just a really weird thing. And it stuck out again. I smell it.
I know where I was sitting. I can point out the tree till this day. Everything was so vivid. And then in front of mine asked me, hey, you want to see this guy?
He's going to talk about just a 30 minute talk how the world came together. Now, if he would have said, he's going to talk about Jesus. Well, God, I was in my room. I'll see you in a half hour.
But he didn't. He said how the world came together. Well, it's interesting. And I sit there and the guy, the first thing he says was the leaf fell from the tree.
And he says, that leaves just reaches and destination. He says, let's go back, try that leaf. He goes to the branch and he goes to the tree before. And he goes to the tree before.
And he starts backtracking. I'm just doing that all the way back. And then at the very end, I was just 100% confirmation. He goes like, do we're a design?
This is design. This is not an accident what happened here. Well, and design needs to designer. You see?
And boom, suddenly there we were. I'm more interested in, if you die in your soul leaves, that means, in my mind, that we have the power to make our souls come out of ourselves. Oh, just people who can do that. Like you can meditate and I can make my soul go out.
And then I can like watch to see if my wife's cheating on me or something different. Exactly how the military found out. That was a guy who killed the guy, because she was sleeping. And he flew to the house and his wife, so I'm the best friend.
No. and that's when he went over there, he killed a guy, got a gel, but then when they heard that story, that was the military, that was right away because yeah, if you can control it, listen, we can, if you lose the stupid, freaking phones, they take all our attention away. We don't have an attention span anymore. If you could really focus, there's no watch, you can do it, like this Fami Rama guy, the Buddhist, he would, he can bring his heart rate up to 300 beats a minute on commando, that's not safe, he can control his oxygen, he does this, he looks his hand and he can send, no oxygen to like a circle, and then a circle appears on his hand because his oxygen free.
He's still not gonna like, five crime with it or anything, I need a bad pal that. We just, we could do some real stuff. I know, it's all taken away. Think about when a human practice is something for a decade, every day, and how great they get at it, to the point where, you know, like if somebody punches somebody because it's just to bring into fighting, anybody can punch somebody, but if you train for 10 years or more on how to throw that punch, the amount of power that you can send is night and day.
Yeah, we are. Like to the point where you become almost a superhuman, same escape, wanting soccer, all of it. People that have done it for their whole lives and just dedicated it all, they become super powerful at it. Yep.
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I bought a book like that when I was in high school, just a silly thing at the bookstore, and I did try, you're supposed to lay there and not think about anything clear on mine. I did feel like I got, because you feel like your center of consciousness is like red third eye, but where about your eyeballs are, you're just seeing stuff from there. I did feel like I got it down to my belly button one time, and I talked to somebody and I'm like, yeah, that's exactly how you got it. So you should have kept going.
Yeah, 10 more years than that. Yeah, yeah. And you would have been like in another room doing the show. I would have even been crazy.
You wouldn't have been here, yeah, but you would have been. Some people who can do really crazy stuff. I said, I don't want access. He's the very world renowned.
You know what access is. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, father Rippaker.
What? Father Rippaker. What's a Rippaker? It's his name.
Oh, it's last night. Face it he fought a Rippaker. No, no, no. So I'm asking myself, what is that?
The facial movements like moving, he says, is that true? And he goes, says 90% of the time. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? He says that the face is the changes, the facial expressions.
Yeah, he says that's 90% of the time. That's pretty much always a common thing. He says a lot of fake ones, but the ones that are like, OK, what's the craziest thing ever had? And he goes two times.
I go to that one. He says, when I walked in, they were floating against the ceiling. Yeah. Had to talk him down.
And then you talk him down. And then you talk to other exorcists, and they've all seen the same, the people floating levitating. I'm more interested in the fake ones. Yeah.
He goes there and they're like, oh, you're going to learn to me. And he's like, dude, pretty sure you're, I'm a demon. Like, how is it when they fail? Like, that's going to be fun.
Oh, no, what about you? Skitched 11 years old to start speaking flu with our mate? Our mate. Yeah.
Well, people hit their head, and then they have crazy accents and stuff. Crazy stuff. And all that stuff. Hey, boss, it used to be real violent, right?
Because you're like a bouncer and stuff. And you had those videos where you're like, needed to face, needed to face. I mean, all that stuff. You're older.
I mean, I'm older too. I think I was definitely a lot more aggressive. And then when I got older and now that we know about brain injuries and stuff, I'm a little, especially like on the street, it's pretty hard for me to go. I really don't want to.
Yeah, I mean, but is that like, have you grown over the years with that stuff? Or do you still have a temper? No, I don't have a temper anymore. I do have a temper.
I really will have to control it. It's really focusing on it. It's just controlling the senses, right? Because that's all of us starts.
But why don't you lose emotion? Look at politics right now. I mean, that's all emotion because people don't think that's why I always, how did you figure that out? How did you, it's very hard.
It's very hard. Like, somebody cuts me off in the road. It's very hard for me to knock it out. And I'll say something, I'll pray for you.
I come up with something or I visualize a six-year-old kid driving or a grandmourner or something. Because otherwise, I might go, shh. But so I just, and you have to do it over the six years. This is about somebody.
Get into the situations where somebody cuts you off and then they come alongside your car and they go to tell you to go screw yourself, whatever. And then they see it's plus a rutance head. And they go, ah, I can't tell you. By the way, this is very fun.
I'm a daughter over with a boyfriend from Holland. And we're driving in the car. The windows are open. And I'm making a turn and a guy goes from the other side.
We're both going into the same street. But it's like four lanes. But he can't stand it that I went before him or something. He says, honk it all.
And he comes really hard to me back. And I go like, dude, whatever. You know what to pick my hand up. And then he comes next to me.
And dude, we die. He goes, oh, shoot, boss, we're done. He's screaming at other people. He hits the brakes.
And he's firing. And we're dying. He hit the car. It was the funniest thing.
And then I thought, what am I? A guy that I know is like all the guys. I was like, he goes, really? What are you talking about?
I say, oh crap. It was hilarious. But a guy. So yeah, that was the one instance.
I don't know what you're talking about. That's smart. Do you think that maybe because you said your experiences as a young person were like, what would the chip on your shoulder to maybe get involved with fighting? Do you think becoming so accomplished in fighting and then being known around the world for being so accomplished helped to take some of that chip off from feeling the way you did as a kid?
No, yes, for sure it did. But I never wanted to. But I was a bouncer. They wanted me.
You were a bouncer first before any training. Yeah. So you know I did tie books at the time. So I thought that you were a tie books.
You were a tie books. I was 25 days a week. But they of course they liked it when I because I could fight. But they really liked me because from the 10 situations we fight maybe once because I'm really good with talking and connecting to people.
I was just breaking things down like the drawing. He was checking out my wife. I go, that's a compliment. Did he touch her?
No, was he talking to her? Did he make a phrase? No, no, I said, do it. What are you talking about?
And then they start thinking. They go like, yeah, yeah. So what are you doing? What do you want?
I'm going to take a beer. Shake hands. Problem solved. Just break it down because then they realized it's stupid.
It's your angry getting for. And then one time when it happens, I won't make sure that I'll leave a mark. You know, like headbudding. Headbudding.
For people who are watching, they go, don't mess with their boxer. Because it looks very powerful, you know? So I would make sure that at least the people are watching that they don't forget. So we don't have problems anymore in the bar.
But that's very rare. I didn't fight. People say, how does the street fight? That's a couple of people.
I think maybe like 30 or something. And that's like, because you have to work a place where people were fighting. That's it? You have to break it out.
And on the streets almost never. You know, and especially after my whole freaking Sweden story with these five bounces there that spent. Wasn't there one time you told me where a guy kept trying to fight and you took his pants? Oh, that was a seal.
The fake seal is not a real fake. How did that go again? Yeah, so it was a long time ago. They came into a bar in Japan and all the fans were there.
And they were pushing people. I see people flying left to right. They're just pushing to the side. These Japanese people.
I go, look at my friends. I go, check this out. So I turn my back to them. But I stand in the road, right?
I go, walk. I sure enough, he pushed me to. I go, do it. Why don't you do that?
I go, we're seals. I go, go, go, go. I know seals. And when you want to go outside, let's go.
We want to find self-fital for you. And so we go outside. And then I go, boom, boom. And the first two are down.
And then I add this guy. So I got him. And I think I got him in the first time in an arm bar. Because I start doing requests, you know.
So I say to the other five, what do you want to see? So I got him on bar. And then I'm pulling him a little hard. I don't want to bring him.
No, no, no, no, no. Please, I won't do it anymore. He's begging you to let it off. So I go.
He jumps on me again. Immediately. And immediately they got him in an knee bar. I think it was.
And he's screaming again. And I let him go again. And he, he, he, he, he, he. And I was sitting there watching fights.
And someone goes, hey, man, you're girlfriend's fighting. And I was like, what? And I go over and there's a huge scrap. And it's her and some other girl.
And they're being pulled apart and kicking and pulling hair. And I think it was, it was somebody, it was a Gracie's wife of sorts. And I was like, can you not fight Gracie? Not a smart guy.
I mean, like I know like seven guys total. And I'm pretty sure they were a bit more friends with Gracie than I am. This is bad. How long have you been training at this point?
I've never, never, never loved enough. Love enough to know that everybody here is a killer. And I saw you, I went in there to break it up, like to get people off. And I see you walking towards it, but just like, you're like, okay, it looks like the situation is handled.
Yeah. But just the fear of like, I grab her and I go, hey, stop. And I see bus route and I go, oh my God. Like, lady, please stop.
No violence. Like you hit somebody and he hits. Ah. I remember like not being interested in her immediately after that.
That's hard because once they do to them, they're going to do to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very simple. Yeah.
She looked too happy in it too. And I was like, are you enjoying yourself? Like this is life and death for me. But you didn't know anything.
Yeah. Appreciate that. So now you do you train? Like how's the arm?
You know, this was actually really tiny arm. It's, believe it or not, this is big now compared to what it was. Yeah. That's from your neck and back.
Yeah. There's ones the nurse stop sending signals that the muscles don't work. That's the only way. That's why when you break your back and there's no signals going to the legs or the wheelchair.
You know, so it wasn't from a particular thing. I was just wearing tear. No, it was never from fighting. It was from a fight scene in a TV show in where we had to come up at something that the lead actor, because he was going to knock me out.
This whole with Calony, he's the guy from Mindhunter. I don't know if he watched that show on Netflix about his FBI profile. Yeah. Yeah.
He's the lead actor of that. And actually going to see him tonight because it was a birthday. Yeah. A birthday hold.
Yeah. But he was a shoe. See now she was again. What were we?
He's talking about fighting her. Yeah. What happened? Oh, yeah.
He was a lead actor. That show. He wants to show cold lights out. I don't know if you remember on FX was the box.
Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't leading that. Yeah.
So there was a zone on the ground fight that he had to do to save his brother for something and I had to fight. He was a little bit. He needs to. I need to win with luck.
You know, he needs to beat me up and he does something where I say, I got it. I say, what about I drop you, you know, I jump on your back, but I forget to put my hooks in and you lean over and I slide down and I spike myself on the head. And then I'm dizzy and you hit me in the throat and you knock me out. You go, yeah, but you really want to do that?
I go, yeah, why not? You think you're invisible, right? If you're an athlete, I guess. And I did that.