Honorable Atheist Governor

After analyzing President Donald Trump's unctuous, divisive and erroneous remarks at a right-wing "March For Life," we dissect Vice President Mike Pence's biblically based address to the Israeli Kenesset where he mistook myth for historical fact while embracing the "people of the book." FFRF attorney Sam Grover tells us about positive developments in our lawsuit challenging a Texas judge who forces people in his courtroom to pray. Then we speak with Debra Deanne Olson, granddaughter of a California governor. Her biography (with co-author Dr. Craig Wilkinson) is The Honorable Culbert Levy Olson: Governor of California 1939-1943, Humanitarian, Ex-Mormon, Atheist.