EPISODE · Nov 30, 2025 · 59 MIN
Hoosier AI Collaborators' Casual Conversation
from AGI - Advance, Grow, Innovate with AI · host AGI Podcasters
AGI - Advance, Grow, and Innovate with AI - The Podcast - For Whoever Got Stuck Making AI Work Episode 51Episode Summary: An ad-hoc conversation exploring AI adoption in the Midwest workforce, from hackathons creating full apps in 8 hours to the shift from meat-grinder hiring to apprenticeship models in the age of AI.Guest Kelly Friend, Senior Manager at TPMA | Former Vice Chancellor at Ivy Tech | Focused on workforce development and educationGuest Oliver Belanger, COO at CitizenAI | Building AI tools to help citizens access public benefit programs | Championing recovery capital through technologyGuest LinksKelly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-friendTPMA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tpmainc/Website: https://www.tpma-inc.com/Oliver on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverbelanger/CitizenAI LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mycitizenai/Website: https://www.mycitizen.ai/Follow The PodcastFacebook + LinkedIn: @AGIPodcastStay in the LoopFuture-proof your organization, your team, and your career → work with Jason → podcasts, keynotes, educational workshops, and one-on-one coachingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-grant-padgett/X: https://x.com/JasonPadgettGR📧 [email protected]The No-Code CAIO Newsletterhttps://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-no-code-caio-newsletter-7399599285849346048Phoenix Solutions GroupAffordable, pragmatic education, training, and consulting in AI literacy, policy, and projects.🌐 https://www.phoenixsolutionsgroup.org/Key Timestamps:[03:45] - Recovery capital and peer support networks as foundation for transformation[08:20] - Why tech welcomes newcomers while licensed professions protect their turf[12:30] - The credential chaos: How do you know which training actually matters?[18:15] - Military veterans translating skills to civilian tech careers[22:40] - AI replacing junior employees: Where do future senior professionals come from?[28:10] - The shift from meat-grinder hiring to apprenticeship models[32:45] - Hackathon revolution: First-timers building full apps in 8 hours with AI[38:20] - Tool tiers: Lovable vs Cursor vs raw foundational models[43:15] - Why Perplexity beats ChatGPT for research (it shows actual sources)[48:30] - The ikigai approach to learning AI: Start with what you love[52:10] - AI makes boring work enjoyable, not just faster[56:25] - Large language models vs small specialized models for business[01:00:15] - Sci-fi predictions: Best parts of Dune, Blade Runner economics, and flying carsTools We RecommendMindStudio → Automate your workflowshttps://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdqRiverside.fm → Turn one recording into a week's worth of contenthttps://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr
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AGI - Advance, Grow, and Innovate with AI - The Podcast - For Whoever Got Stuck Making AI Work Episode 51Episode Summary: An ad-hoc conversation exploring AI adoption in the Midwest workforce, from hackathons creating full apps in 8 hours to the shift from meat-grinder hiring to apprenticeship models in the age of AI.Guest Kelly Friend, Senior Manager at TPMA | Former Vice Chancellor at Ivy Tech | Focused on workforce development and educationGuest Oliver Belanger, COO at CitizenAI | Building AI tools to help citizens access public benefit programs | Championing recovery capital through technologyGuest LinksKelly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-friendTPMA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tpmainc/Website: https://www.tpma-inc.com/Oliver on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverbelanger/CitizenAI LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mycitizenai/Website: https://www.mycitizen.ai/Follow The PodcastFacebook + LinkedIn: @AGIPodcastStay in the LoopFuture-proof your organization, your team, and your career → work with Jason → podcasts, keynotes, educational workshops, and one-on-one coachingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-grant-padgett/X: https://x.com/JasonPadgettGR📧 [email protected]The No-Code CAIO Newsletterhttps://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-no-code-caio-newsletter-7399599285849346048Phoenix Solutions GroupAffordable, pragmatic education, training, and consulting in AI literacy, policy, and projects.🌐 https://www.phoenixsolutionsgroup.org/Key Timestamps:[03:45] - Recovery capital and peer support networks as foundation for transformation[08:20] - Why tech welcomes newcomers while licensed professions protect their turf[12:30] - The credential chaos: How do you know which training actually matters?[18:15] - Military veterans translating skills to civilian tech careers[22:40] - AI replacing junior employees: Where do future senior professionals come from?[28:10] - The shift from meat-grinder hiring to apprenticeship models[32:45] - Hackathon revolution: First-timers building full apps in 8 hours with AI[38:20] - Tool tiers: Lovable vs Cursor vs raw foundational models[43:15] - Why Perplexity beats ChatGPT for research (it shows actual sources)[48:30] - The ikigai approach to learning AI: Start with what you love[52:10] - AI makes boring work enjoyable, not just faster[56:25] - Large language models vs small specialized models for business[01:00:15] - Sci-fi predictions: Best parts of Dune, Blade Runner economics, and flying carsTools We RecommendMindStudio → Automate your workflowshttps://get.mindstudio.ai/q7n7u5cttkdqRiverside.fm → Turn one recording into a week's worth of contenthttps://riverside.sjv.io/e1xyBr
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