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Hour 1- RIP Mike Ditka

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Stugotz and Company pay tribute to Mike Ditka who passed away earlier today. Mikey delivers his list of the best NFL games of the weekend. Stu and the guys welcome friend of the show and NFL analyst Mina Kimes onto the show. Plus, renowned comedian Frank Caliendo joins the program.

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It is to go to company as we head into a big football weekend. Me and Akan going to join us in about 15 minutes. Frank Caliendo will join us later this hour as well. And Bear and T-Bob and myself will get you ready for a big college football weekend. Mike Dicke passes away today at the age of 86.

We have some sound here telling you have sound of Mike Dicke's. That's before we get to Mikey A's top five games of the weekend coming up here. Mike Dicke passed away 86. He is just one of those figures in the NFL. That is larger than life.

But I'm not certain many people, especially the younger portion of the audience, really knows about Mike Dicke and what Mike Dicke was all about. You have sound that would lend to what Mike Dicke was all about. Right? We have two sounds that kind of encapsulate who Mike Dicke was as a person. And Sue, you mentioned the younger generation not really knowing much about Mike Dicke in terms of the football player or the football coach.

Revolutionary for that tight end position where a tight end putting up a thousand yards receiving in a 14 game season in 1961 would be like the equivalent of a receiver putting up like 3,000 yards today in a single season. Great player, great coach. Only guy in NFL history to win a Super Bowl as a head coach, a player and an assistant coach. How about that? And he's a coach that looks like, if you were making a list of coaches that look like they can't wait to punch you square between the nose, it's Mike Dicke's list.

It's him and Marty Schottenheimer. Wow. What he hates? Well, what he hates did it. What he Ryan too looks like he couldn't wait.

What he Ryan got in a fight with Mike Dicke. Can I throw out a surprise name? I think that would fit in this list of coaches that look like they can't wait to punch you square between the nose. So these are coaches who can't wait to punch you in the face. Square between the nose.

OK. Go ahead. Boppolini. It's a good one. Leaning.

Yes. It isn't bad. Yes. Does this rival? Does Raven want to punch you right in the face?

He's got a little bit of a sour punch on it. Yeah, he does have a snarl. Trying to fake this. Mike Singletary looks like someone who wants to punch you square in the face. That's a good one.

Who do you want to punch in the face? Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel. Yeah. More like the kicker that comes in a big kick.

Mike Dicke would punch that kicker between the nose. He had a great kicker. Kevin Butler never missed a kick. That team was one of the all-time great teams in NFL history. He was the head coach.

Perhaps they didn't go undefeated. They lost the Dolphins on a Monday night. Dan Marino had a great game offensively. But that is one of the five greatest teams. I could say that safely in NFL history.

And I think many people would say that the 85 Bears with Mike Dicke as their head coach was the greatest Stephen NFL history. So let's do the first call that we have today or the first sound that we have today. Yes. Is a fan who called Mike Dicke a baby on a call in radio show. What is it that's here that Mike was holding back trying not to cry like a baby that he is?

Around the other day, what you are, I can't say on the air. But I tell you what, I'm 53 years old. And I'm my officer, 250 North Washington. Anytime you want to meet me there, you call me back on the air. You tell me what time and when and I'll whip your ass.

You got that, big boy? If we see the highs behind the microphone, son, let's get your say time public and live where people have to see you every day. And we'll see who the gauntlet's wonder is. That's Mike Dicke for you, especially people. The younger demographic of the audience here.

That is Mike Dicke. That is how he was. That is how he is. That's how he'll always be. He passed away at the age of 86.

That's also how radio sounded in the 80s. A little tinny. Yeah. We'll see who the gutless wonder is. It's like such a good line from somebody like Dicke.

Who's probably sitting in some restaurant in Chicago doing this coach's show. Yes. Dicke has rest of the run. This other sound comes from his time with the Saints, where the Saints get off to a rough start. Yes.

And the last thing Mike Dicke wants to do when his team is getting off to a rough start is talk to reporters. Well, let's keep in mind here, he traded an entire draft class to get Ricky Williams. And this is that frustration boiling over when the reporters just keep pestering him with questions. Yes. No matter which one run, there'll be a quarterback.

It'll be named next week. It'll be the starter. There's three quarterbacks on this football team. Whichever one starts, whichever one's don't will back him up. Period.

Cut and dry. It's nobody's concerned with ours. Nobody's. Next injuries from the game. Talk to the trainer.

Next. All right, Mike, why are you in such a bad mood? What do you care? OK, you were two and seven, you'd be in a bad mood too. What next?

Mike, is this more like a training camp type bracket for the regular C? Yes. Next. That's very much fine. Is it?

No. No. All right. I'll see you guys. Classic Dicke.

You have to read the room there if you're a reporter in that situation. Yes. And ask them why are you in a bad mood. They were terrified. To be honest, though, if the Saints were seven and two, Mike would be in a bad mood.

This sound, though, it's like it's like going into a tiger's den and just trying to poke the tiger with a stick and be like, hey, tiger, why are you so mad? It's like, you have to remember at the end of the day, the tiger is a tiger. Yes. Put it on the pole. At the end of the day is a tiger at tiger.

Did you hear the fear in the reporter's voice? Yeah. It's like, because with each passing question, the fear, it grows more and more with each passing reporter until they just stop. Play one more time. It's a matter of which one run.

It'll be a quarterback. It'll be named next week. It'll be the starter. There's three quarterbacks on this football team. It was everyone starts with everyone's don't move back about.

Period. Cut and drive. It's nobody's concerned with ours. Nobody's. Next.

There's injuries from the game. Talk to the trainer. Next. All right, Michael, why are you in touch about this? What do you care?

Jesus. All right. OK. You were two and seven. You'd be in a bad mood too.

What next? Michael, just more like a training team at Cypress at the political regulation. Yes. Next. Not very much fun.

It's just something. I don't know. All right. I'll see you guys. Now, if you pay attention, it's almost like he respected that last reporter.

Almost. Almost. Almost. Like, it was like one of those. Like, listen, I'm going to give you an answer.

And the answer is yes. Shut up after that. I love that he's angry with the reporters, because his team is so lousy. It's too it's like it's their fault. I mean, but that was my ticket.

And I'm telling you, it's a seven and two. We would have given probably somewhere in the vicinity of the same answers. Let's get to Mikey A's top five games of the weekend. I also have a top five. I have top five games.

I wrote them down. I just want to see if my list matches up with your list. But let's do it. Mikey A, take it away. All right.

I have one OLI. And you know all my games are NFL. OK. Love College, but this is an NFL list. One OLI.

Eagles of Jaguars in London. You've seen one international game. You've seen them all, but these are two teams that are supposed to be playoff content. Yes, I had that at number five for me. OK.

Number five. Taylor, I don't know what you called this game. But this is the Tom Brady's past and present game. This is Raiders of Patriots. Wow.

Wow. I had it for. Yes. All of a sudden, this is a great game. I mean, is it?

For a bench game for the Patriots. The lost of this Raiders team last year on the way that they're Super Bowl. I forgot about that. Yes. First game of the season, right?

Yes. Yes. This next game is supposed to be so much better. But the quarterback has hurt. But now they're playing in memory of Mike Dica bears a packer.

Wow. I'm not sure if I'm the packers. It's on Americans. Yes. Put it on the ball, Taylor.

I didn't have that game anywhere in my top five. Mike, I wasn't thinking of Mike Dica. That's a good job out of you. That's your fault. I'm complimenting you.

No, I wish I had. Yes. All right. Number three. A couple of birds cutting it up.

Ravens at Falcons. Ravens Falcons. Yeah, that's an interesting game. Not my top five, right? But you want to see the Falcons are real.

Yeah. What have they shown you since Michael Pecks come back to make sure they are not nothing. They're 40 points a game best off. It's been a game back. All right.

Keep going. Number two, Monday night football bills at Rams might see this game again in February. Yes. I had that also at number two. I thought that's a game and number one game.

Yes. I mean, come on NFC West 49ers at Seahawks fantastic game. Super Bowl champs going up against the four note team that usually gives a profit. So I had that at number three. I had I had Alabama and Georgia at number one.

It's a big game. I mean, I don't hate it. Wow. Mike, you'll college on my list. You mentioned 49ers Seahawks NFL week five is here and this one's personal.

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Mina, let's start here. What is going on with the Dallas Cowboys? What is happening? Man, it's incredible that after all of the changes they made on defense, the trades, the player pickups, the draft picks, do first round draft picks, the coordinator change, they somehow seem worse, which I did not think was physically possible. I was just like, I'm looking at my notes from last night.

I think what's crazy too is sometimes we make football really complicated and we talk about weaknesses or schematic issues. They literally just look so soft. Soft. The cushions are giving up and coverage, the mistackles, the effort. It's honestly pretty wild to see.

And I think every Cowboys fan is especially frustrating given how ripe for taking the division is, right? Yes, yeah. It's interesting because there were no expectations when Shot and Himer took over last year. And this year he came in with pretty lofty expectations. And so I'm wondering because Jerry Jones was not happy after that game.

I'm wondering, do you think Shadi's on the hot seat? Probably, but also Jerry Jones. Like a lot of this is a disaster of your own making from a roster construction standpoint. The trading away of Michael Parsons. By the way, which this summer, everybody was like, wow, look at this.

Look at all the players they got. This is actually a great trade. I'm like, what? My person's, I know he's hurt, but he's one of the three best pass-reshers in football. And you end up paying some of the players you traded for.

You got to pay more than you would have paid Michael Parsons. So it just feels like hustling backwards to me. I mean, staying in that division between Lane, Johnson retiring and Cam Jorgen is getting traded to Baltimore. When you factor in that it's a defense that feels like they can no longer carry that team, does Philadelphia have enough answers to remain like a legitimate contender? I do not think so.

I was just doing it. So I'm on the Sunday pre-game show for the International Game Eagles, Jack. Yes. That's 6.3 a.m. I thought that was 9.30.

Yes. And I've been doing a lot of game prep just trying to come up with answers for Philadelphia, ways that the underdog can pull it off. And I am hard pressed on offense to come up with any solutions for what we're seeing right now because of the offensive line. I think the defense will play better. They're playing below their talent level.

Vickshandy, Pangio, defenses tend to get better as the season goes along. And that should be at minimum a top seven defense in league seven. What a random arbitrary football line. I've done it before. I was like, I thought process like five.

No, don't want to take ten. Let's just go with seven. Right in the middle. Nobody can hold you accountable for seven. But the offense, like the line is just a disaster.

And I think what we say with hurts and I feel pretty comfortable saying this is he is the type of quarterback where offensive line play really matters. And I know people are like, that's every quarterback. So quarterback is more than others. That's all I'm saying. I think for him, he does need that protection.

Also the competent run game, which they don't have. I mean, I have to be honest with you. You predicted that Trevor Lawrence would win the MVP. I laughed at you when you said it. I did.

But I'm not laughing anymore because we have been making jokes around here with Chris Sims, asking him every single week for years. Is Trevor Lawrence any good? He's really good. I mean, I'm not certain your prediction will come true, but he is really good. It seems that Lawrence guy, I know he's not a hurts guy.

No, he's a Lawrence guy. Lawrence guy. Yes. I love Trevor Lawrence. I loved him last year.

I love my song the second half of the season. And I love what I've seen. I love what I've seen. Obviously it's continued into the first quarter of the season. He's just so aggressive and confident right now, throwing into tight windows over the middle of the field.

I think the scheme is really good. The run game looks better, but he is the engine of it. He's been awesome. Mina, how much is bothering you to watch Kenneth Walker in Kansas City? I just absolutely run away with you.

Mikey, it's so funny. I texted her about that because they're three in one without him. I'm so confused about Kenneth Walker. It's really a testament though to like running like why? I mean, let him walk even.

I do think I would feel a lot better if their first round running back will contributing more and he got hurt. So I don't want to like put that on him. But like a couple weeks ago, he fumbles in the first play and they're just like, nah, you're not going to get the ball game, which is like, you know, whatever. But like the CX cannot run the ball very well right now. And it's similar to first half of last season.

And that's going to hurt them against certain opponents, including San Francisco. They played this weekend because I think San Francisco's weakness is run defense. And I just don't know if Seattle can take advantage of that. I mean, it seems like the consensus between the better player between David Bailey and Arvel Reese was going to be whichever one the Jets did in draft four weeks in is it already starting to look like the Jets got that decision wrong way too early. I will say.

It's the Jets. They don't get the benefit of the doubt. I mean, they definitely don't. They're very different players to write like so like with Bailey, obviously you're bringing him to get after the quarterback. And you want him to improve in that regard.

But Reese to me, like the you already seen the versatility, the tackling, the instincts. He's such a good player. He was my favorite defensive player in the draft. And yeah, he looks awesome, honestly, the first few weeks. But I'm not giving up on David Bailey.

It's literally Jeff. I mean, we've been making fun of the Vikings here. They're four now. They're undefeated. Every team would love to be four.

No. Are they any good? Do you guys know where the Vikings offense ranks so far in yards per play? Just guess. I'm 31.

I'm going to say 20. 31. I'll guess what Mikey 32. I had the dolphins. I know, but you have to play the game with Mina.

You got to say top 10 or something like that. 28 to 30. The offense at least does occasional fun things, right? Yeah, the Vikings offense has just been even with Kyle and Marie Beck. I think the hope is that you get to see legs.

You do see glimpses of potential there in terms of him pushing the ball down field. I thought the second half feel better. But for me to take them seriously, not in the vision, but as a competitor, you just need to offense to the average, right? Because the defense is obviously top three NFL. I mean, how's your brown fans?

They're. I have a number of brown fans. How's your brown fans? They're three and one. I understand most fans are selfish.

They want their own feel good. I don't care about most, but how's your brown fans be cheering for this team considering who the guy is? That's why I'm quarterback for that team. Well, you have a feel good story in Cleveland, which is the young players look awesome. Yes.

And when you draft a quarterback next year, it's going to be an actually good situation. So that's the feel good story. And by the way, whenever I say that, we're like, well, they're going to keep the Sean not for $200 million, which is how much they would owe him because of all the shenanigans in the past. And so anyways, he's been fine. He's been up and down.

I think like for example, obviously in the Thursday night game, he had a really good first half and a really bad second half and didn't kind of matter. I think when I watched them, the thing that jumps out to me is just the two receivers they drafted look awesome. They're really good at getting yards after the catch. They have the second, but actually they break first in the NFL and yards after contact, which I think speaks to the nature of the offense, which doesn't ask to Sean to push it down field very much. And then defensively, a lot of young players look good too.

First looks great. Obviously, a big pair of the Miles Garrett trade. So this is a fun young team. It would be a fun story this year, I think from an underdog perspective, not for the quarterback, but if you're a Browns fan, I think you can compartmentalize a little. I mean, four weeks in, it feels like we still have no idea what to make of this Raiders team.

How is Kirk Cousins pulling this off? I don't know. I'm terrible when Atlanta, I love him. When he, on the play against Kansas City, because, you know, when I watch like sometimes an older quarterback, and Eric Rogers, I'm like, yeah, yeah, he's both going out fast. He doesn't want to get hit with her.

Kirk Cousins, my thought process, if you show me a good Kirk Cousins stat line, I'm thinking not pressured, ball out quick, zone coverage, picking it apart, smart, obviously played a long time. It's pretty accurate, but that's not what happened. He was making throws under pressure, like rolling out, extending, like that makes no sense. So I don't know, I don't know if it's sustainable. The offense is extremely well designed.

Titans are obviously awesome. The line is playing well. And then I think a lot of the additions in defense are good too. You know, the company Dean's been bawling. Crosby looks great.

So they're definitely like a legit team. I don't have them as like a Super Bowl contender in the top tier of the AFC, but they are a hard out for sure. What do you do with the Falcons here? Because I've been telling the guys I could see this team winning that division, making a deep run. They just needed a competent quarterback.

Now they have one at Michael Pinnock's and they've averaged 40 of games since he came back. Yeah, I think, well, first of all, absolutely can win this division. Right? Yes. Right.

Yeah. That's a very good question. Well, I love right here. Yeah, but Jack, we love right here. We are big Tyler Chuck Fett.

More price on nowadays. And the boxer back in it. They're both, by the way, Atlanta Falcons, those guys are all like we're talking about the Browns and you really can root for all of them. Like, what a great, like, pentics. Oh, nice young.

Oh, like, like, a great story. Ty Chuck. Oh, like, they're really like, um, yeah, the Falcons. So here's the thing about the Falcons. Uh, the office has been awesome.

I really want to see if they can play from behind because right now it's be John and then play action, right? What happens if you take that off the table? I'm interested in seeing the quarterback and the passing game in those circumstances, but that's far, I mean, who cares? You don't play from behind? You're scoring at will and that's what they've been doing.

And then they have more surprising thing to me is the pass rush. But defensive line has been really good. That to me is probably the most shocking part, more so than even pentics. After one of the most embarrassing losses is it all over for Aaron Glenn. Please tell my kids.

So please. I kind of think it was regardless. Like, you know, the offense showed some fun. I, yeah, I mean, he's really struggled clock management issues, game, like it's been, because sometimes you're like, how much do I blame the coach? Right?

But there's been multiple instances already this season where you're like, what are you doing, dude? Um, and his side of the ball, he's not playing well, the defense. So I do think, um, it's funny because I thought bowls was going to be the first man out, but no, no, he had cardiac bowls. He came back. Yes.

He's too. He's under 500 with a box. He's still a coach. He's been there for five years. He's just great.

Um, yeah, uh, I do not think Aaron Glenn is going to be just going to succeed. Yes. You know, after that win at Buffalo, where's your level of concern with Drake May and his Patriot offense? Uh, I think that he'll be fine. I think you saw against Buffalo a lot of improvement in terms of like just his confidence.

I think what was cool about that game was that he was pushing the ball down field, throwing in tight windows, even everything, you know, that's transpired before that game in terms of the interceptions, some of the bad decisions. He did not look like a quarterback who was like, cowed by it. I think that's really cool. Um, I think getting AJ Brown back is going to be massive though for that offense. They, and I think he looks like he'll be back, I think week six or something, if not next week, week after, but it's a really, really, I think losing him was a bigger deal than people thought.

Uh, the Mina Con show featuring Lenny, uh, tell Lenny I said hello plus you can check her out pregame for Eagles and Jags. This is so exciting for you that you're doing that. That's so awesome. Uh, last question here on the way out for you mean, what the hell is going on with the chargers? What is happening?

Oh God. It's a disaster. Hey, there's a sneaky hot seat, Jim Harbaugh. I don't know what talks about. He's made some, I mean, right?

Yeah. The CEO head coach, like this is you dude and it's everything. Yes. Yeah, it's, it's pretty rough out there. It's funny, right?

The great Herbert two or a Roars. Yes. You remember those? Yeah. It just feels like there's no winners right now.

I mean, you have all these massive platforms. You drive NFL conversation like nobody else. Why don't you start that with Jim Harbaugh? You should be on a hot seat. Yes.

Go ahead. Come on. If they, I mean, if they go, oh and seven, I'll, I'll courageously leave the charge. I just chose seven. I just chose seven.

I just chose seven. All right. Me to get out of here. Check her out wherever you get your podcast. The Meena comp show featuring letting you know this Sunday Eagles Jack's free game show.

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He has three shows over the weekend, Palm Beach Improv one tonight, two tomorrow Saturday. I'm going to the early one Saturday. I have to get to sleep early. Three shows over two nights. How are you, Frank?

You have to go to sleep early because you have a show late on Monday. That's classic Stu Gazion. Stu Gazion thinking. Don't you find that you go to bed earlier as you get older? I go to bed.

I'm on brood in time, man. Groody's always like, you know, I get up at three in the morning every morning. I'm like, what time to go to bed? I'm like, yeah, that doesn't count. You can get to brag about your three AM wake up.

That's a tinkle break. That's what that is. I have some things I want to talk to you about, but I was wondering, I've never asked you this. Do you get nervous before you go on stage? Not really.

I mean, there might be a show or something like sometimes TV a little bit, but not so much a show on stage. Maybe a corporate event because it's so big and you want them to be really happy. Sure. But when you're there for a show that people are all there and paying to see you, it's already you feel welcomed. Right.

Because you were texting me as you were going out on stage and I'd be nervous fucking wrecking if I was doing this. Oh, no, no, no, no. That was in Chicago last weekend. I just was like, yeah, that's my not my hometown. I grew up in Milwaukee.

But I'm not allowed to talk about it anymore. They're all from Chicago. By the way, the people of Palm Beach would prefer if your shows were earlier. Well, you know what? I do know your audience.

I like the early show. I get older. My audience gets older too. Some young people are like, why do they show so early? I go because your parents are coming too.

Yes. Why were you when you walked in here? By the way, you stressed me out. You're like, I'll be there in eight minutes. I'll be there in seven minutes.

I'm like, I'm going anywhere. Stop stressing me out. But when you walked in, you were filled with stress. You're on the phone with Tesla. Well, I'm going back and forth.

I just bought a new one. I love the car. And it has a, we had to put the garage door open. For some reason, the garage door doesn't come with it. Which I couldn't care less about.

Because I love the cars. But it doesn't. And then after they fixed something, now there's like this smell of maybe plastic or something. But I'm not home to do it. My wife is texting me.

Who I wouldn't believe. I think she's making it up. But my son verified it. Valinated. Valinated.

There is a real problem. It smells like. But then I'm texting back and forth in the abon Tesla and saying, hey, is there, you know, they're saying, well, we don't think anything happened when we fixed what we just fixed. I'm like, I don't care about that. Is it going to blow up?

Is there a chance that it could blow up? I don't need, you know, Elon. You know, it seemed like there was going to be something. Okay. You're like, he's on Joe Rogan.

He's like, wow. Oh my God. What? Jamie, pull up that Tesla. Okay.

There's a man in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Said right. No, he's done. It's got great things. We got so many people. We've got the great MirBound.

Omega keys. Half a man. indistinct g BRATMarley. No. It's a something to tell you my son. She goes, he's just got to tell you. So he goes, he

texts me, you know the, because we're standing next to each other, but my son's still texting me. He's like, you know the Epstein files on my camera and he goes, do you think you're in them? I'm like, what? And when I was at Palm Beach, improv, the old question, the old Palm Beach, I'm not the new one, which is tremendous. A lot of people talking about the new Palm Beach, you're Robin Wellington. You're gonna name it

after yourself, aren't you? Apparently, Jeffrey Epstein, we have got the airport and now we're gonna have a company club. We're gonna have a company club airport. We're gonna have a helipad. Helipad, we're gonna take LeBron James to all those games, even though he doesn't like me.

So, so he googled or he looked at Justice.gov, searched my name in the Epstein files, and there I popped up because they were Epstein and his cronies bought tickets and came to a show, right? And they were deciding whether to come to the early show, like you. I only know the early show. The early show, they were coming to the late show and it's funny, not funny. The terrible thing on the on the tickets is 18 and over. So I got these tickets on, it's on

Justice.gov, it's me, my name on there. And you know, people, you know, people are like, are you worried about? I'm like, no, I talk about it because if I didn't talk about it, then I'd have the problem. It's the people who don't want you to know they're in there, but I was in there tangentially. So it's an email exchange between Jeffrey and friends saying, we're going to the late show, the early show. And then there's a ticket with his name printed

on it, Jeffrey Epstein. And it's real, because it's not just a picture, it's on Justice.gov. And it's creepy, but at the same time, you know, kind of like, okay, I never thought I'd find any sort of laughter within the Epstein files. Yeah, here we are. And everybody knows that I'm still terrified to laugh. Right? It's creepy, but you're like, okay, like I said, if you're

in there for the wrong reasons, but if you're in that tangentially, like, yeah, I can deal with that. Did you say they did you say the ticket, a screenshot? Are you honored? You're just looking up anytime you want that stuff. They show many things are blacked out to so many things. Wait, so what show was he supposed to come to? I have to look I have to look and

see how they come to the show or I don't know. I don't know wink. No, I honestly don't know. But here's the creepy even creepier thing that I think that was that it was on my I didn't even notice this, but I think it's on my son's birthday and my family was with me. Wow. So that

was that's even creepy. I don't know if that was the email I don't know if that was the email or the date they gave, but it's so weird to see his name on a ticket and then my name and then in email exchanges going, are we going to the late show? Callie under the early show? The weird thing is seeing your name in the Epstein box. Go be worse. Go. All right.

I don't think it good. At least he was a fan though. I mean, I. I said, I didn't think it could get worse. But how did I become the creepy one on your show? I don't know. How did

that happen? I'm sorry. Listen, Palm Beach and prom. That's what happened to you. What you want to do? One show tonight, two shows on Saturday, Palm Beach and prom. You know, I

love the movie Independence. Yes. Okay. And so I have put a speech in front of you, the famous speech by Bill Pullman. But I always wondered what that speech would sound like had they cast Al Pacino as the role of President of the United States of America. Good morning.

Less than an hour. Aircraft from here will join others from around the world. And you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. Robert De Niro. We cannot be consumed by our

petty differences anymore. No, we cannot. Maddy, we'll put you okay? We will be united in our common interest. Perhaps it's fake that today is the Fourth of July. And you will

once again be fighting for our freedom. Okay, but talk about tyranny, not from any tyranny oppression or persecution, but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live to exist and at the end of the day, we should win the day. The Fourth of July will not be known as an American holiday. But as the day when the world declared in one voice, we will not go quietly into the night and also eat as many hot dogs as possible. Joggerated. I tell you

what, man, think about those hot dogs there. We will not vanish. This actually would be pretty good as a group. Yes. We will not vanish without a flight. I almost want you to start

over to the entire thing. Probably gonna, man. We're gonna live on. We're going to survive today. We celebrate our Independence Day. Let's start this thing over. Let's do a little

rabbit lynch. Do the other thing. Do the reverse thing ever seen working many, many. Good morning. It less than an hour. Aircraft from here will join others from around the world. And we will

be launching the largest aerial battle battle in history of mankind. Mankind, man. That's one word that should have a new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate

that today is the Fourth of July, man. And you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression or persecution brought from annihilation, man. We're fighting for our right to live to exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday. I love America, man. But as the day when the world declared

in one voice, we will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight. We're going to live on. We're going to survive today. We will celebrate Spider to Wibun.

It was better as great as it was. Listen, we kicked those aliens asses. If we had spider to Wibun. I'm back. They're running. They're running Tampa three. I did. Come on, man. What

are we going to do? We're on spider to you. You know who the primary is on spider to Wibun? The full back, man. It's the full back. I'm tempted to have you do it as every character.

I just want to hear like the first line of what it would sound like if Bill Walton did it. Good morning. How great is this? It's actually not great at all. In less than an hour, which will be the time I used to get to the middle of the speech. Aircraft from here will join

others from around the world. And you'll be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of Western civilization and mankind. All right. I'm just trying it out to see how it sounds. Two shows Palm Beach and Prof. He has one tonight. He has to tomorrow. Jim Rome, just doing the

first sentence. Good morning. What is up? In less than an hour. Aircraft from here will join others from around the world. And you'll be launching the largest aerial battle in the

history of mankind. Mankind. What a great word. Do you think that speech would like if Morgan Freeman did it, it'd be more controlled. I'm not certain we'd get the troops pumped up, but I'd like to hear it anyway. Good morning. In less than an hour aircraft from here will

join others from around the world. It will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. Freeman's actually perfect. It's like I'm gonna play the president a couple of times. My wife loves your Freeman

the most. That's her favorite character. Ah, where's the next lady? Who also wants to go to the early show? Wait a moment. Morgan, I'm sorry. No problem. Do you get tired doing this?

Like how long before you get tired? What's the shows are sold out? I'm tired. So before they come out to see you. Okay. Alright, make up tired, everyone. Bye ticket, Palm Beach

and prop shows tonight and two shows on Saturday. Thank you for doing this. Great to see you. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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