Skip to content
Hour 1- The Heisman Trophy Chase episode artwork

Nov 3, 2026 37 min

Hour 1- The Heisman Trophy Chase

from Stugotz and Company LIVE! Hosted by Fox Sports Radio and iHeartPodcasts

Stugotz and Company break down this year's Heisman Trophy chase. Izzy talks about how good Luka Doncic has been to start the season. Plus, Stu and the gang discuss what has gone wrong for the Chargers.

Episode details come from the podcast's RSS feed.

Embed this episode

Ready to play

Hour 1- The Heisman Trophy Chase

0:00 37:56
of matches

Transcript Auto-generated, may contain errors

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. The thought of him planning a proposal to me. He's gonna need help. And like, what if he has a ring that I don't like? Wondering how Gen Z is falling in love? Curious about what marriage means today? Tune in to Ring On It, presented by Charm Diamond Centers. Hosted by two best friends, one a full-blown romantic, the other a curious skeptic. A podcast that explores every side of modern commitment. Listen to Ring On It today, wherever you get your podcasts.

Thanks for listening to Stugats & Company Live podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern, noon to 2 p.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for Stugats & Company Live at foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Fox Sports Radio. Israel Gutierrez in studio with us today. We appreciate him coming in. He's up to two days a week. 877-99 on Fox. It's a Hot Take Tuesday.

I want your hot takes. 877-99 on Fox. I wish I had a prize for the best hot take. I hit Taylor with a hot take over the weekend. Did you really? Yeah, he didn't respond, so I'm guessing he thinks it's ridiculous. I was so mad. I mean, he only responds on Tuesdays. So Izzy was texting me about a soccer take, and I'm assuming it was during the Liverpool Arsenal match. It was, yeah. Rubbish, rubbish that game. Yeah, I'm a massive Liverpool supporter, and Liverpool was on the receiving end of the loss, so they kind of set my Sunday back. Here's the prize for the best hot take on a hot take Tuesday. We have one hour, okay? Because I'm busy at hour number two.

An autographed book, my book, stugatsbook.com, my personal record book. I will autograph it and send it to someone. I haven't cleared this with promotions. I have no idea if I'm allowed to do this, but I'm doing it anyways. We don't have promotions. There's nobody that works in that room. 877-99 on Fox. Before we get into the show here, Dan Beyer, if you don't mind, please come to the microphone because...

Taylor released his NFL power rankings yesterday, 24 hours ago. He gave us his NFL power rankings, and after last night's outcome, the Bears beating the Seahawks, he's changed them up. So, Taylor, give us your power rankings as of yesterday before the Bears beat Seattle in Seattle. So you want the entire top 10? Yeah, give us the top 10. Go ahead. No, I was not prepared for that. That's all right. I'm sorry. Well, just tell us where Seattle was yesterday. I have them. Oh, Dan has them. Oh, Dan wrote them down, right? He was that outraged about them that he wrote them down. So, Dan, give us Taylor's top 10, and then Taylor will give us his revisions after a single game was played last night. All right. At number 10?

I'll just go through all 10. Chiefs were 10, Seahawks 9, Giants 8, Steelers 7, Niner 6, Patriots 5, Jaguars 4, Bears 3, Broncos 2, and the Buffalo Bills were number 1. Okay, so the Hawks were number 9 and the Bears were number 2. And Dan scoffed at me yesterday. Well, they dropped 4 spots without doing anything. And that was the problem with it. The Giants only dropped 2 spots, I think, because they didn't play, but the Seahawks dropped 4. So that was my issue.

Giants had a bye week. They moved up. Seattle merely had a primetime game that was scheduled because their team is very good, and they were moved down. So yesterday you had Seattle at 9, you had the Bears at 2. Let's let Dan Beyer and the audience know where you have Seattle today and where you have Chicago today. So Seattle has fallen out of the top 10. Oh, jeez. I thought they were going to move up, maybe. Detroit has entered into the top 10. The Bears, who are at number 3.

have jumped to number one. They are now the team to beat in the NFL. Best team in the NFL, Dan, because they beat your Seahawks. There's a compliment in there somewhere. I don't know where it is, but by beating your Seahawks, they now have become the best team in the NFL. I can't wait to hear tomorrow's rankings when no one has played and we have an ultimate shakeup in the top 10. Stu, if the Tennessee Titans called the Chicago Bears today and said, hey, there was a mistake with the paperwork. We actually forgot to include a third first round pick in the Jeffrey Simmons trade. The Bears would say...

Where do we send it? That's how good Jeffrey Simmons is. They would say, get the hell out of here. What are you talking about? I mean, we don't need to play who won the trade with Izzy. We know who won that trade already. The Bears won the trade. The Bears won the trade. I'll give Dan a quick compliment, at least on his team, on a hot take Tuesday. This also might be a hot take. I think Sam Darnold has the best head of hair amongst quarterbacks in the NFL. That means a lot, Izzy. Yes, that means a lot. Quarterback hair is a very important thing. It really is. For me, I like quarterback hair to kind of flow out of the back of the helmet. I'm trying to think of it. Trevor Lawrence?

Well, no, not like that. It's got to be curly. Curly's better than straight, you know? And I'm trying to think of a good example of a guy who had great quarterback hair. But anyway, was that on air? No. Okay. Jackson Dart? Jackson Dart. That's a good one. Yes, that is great quarterback hair. What about Namath? Namath, decent. Richard Todd would be a good one.

That's got it. Like, look him up. The youngsters in the audience. He was the Jets quarterback in the early 80s. He had a very good head of hair. Good quarterback hair. He's not even the third Richard Todd that comes up when I Google Richard Todd. There's some Irish-British actor. Really? Yeah. Good hair on this guy, too. Yes. How about Richards? Hang on. I've got to find him. Good hair in Alabama. What about our teammate here, Brady Quinn at Fox Sports Radio? Great head of hair back in the morning. Excellent. And right now, actually, this second.

I'll tell you what, Justin Herbert has a great head of hair. It looks great coming out of that helmet. If only his arm can match his hair. I mean, he'd be in business. Stu, I still laugh at the time that we had Brady Quinn on. And I accidentally started the interview saying, Brady, I wish all quarterbacks could look like you. And Brady did not know what to do with that compliment. And you could see how uncomfortable it made him. He looks the part. Compliments are tough, man. They're tough to accept. Yes. Izzy wants to talk some Heisman Trophy here. I am always up for a Heisman Trophy conversation. Perhaps the most prestigious award anywhere. Individual award. Still is, right? The Heisman Trophy?

Ballon d'Or? I'm kidding. Ronaldo won that for life. You saw that over Messi? It had like a vote on it. It's weird, the whole thing. What do you have on the Heisman here? Well, I was just wondering, I wanted to get your guys' opinion on this because I think this year's Heisman race is super interesting. Not so much, I mean, I guess part of it is because there's two on one team and that should probably be the runaway team, number one team for the year if they have two of the three leading Heisman Trophy candidates. But I was wondering how you think of the award and how it applies to this year. Because...

When I think of the Heisman Trophy, I don't necessarily think of statistics, right? Because depending on what kind of offense you play in or if you're a defensive player, maybe you're a defensive heavy team. Maybe you're like a Michigan from a few years ago or something like that. But I don't really look at statistics that much because they could be inflated depending on whether you have a bunch of cupcakes on your schedule or, again, maybe you just have a type of team that just throws the ball around everywhere, every down, and you're just inflating your statistics. But I just simply think of, hey.

Who is the best player in college football? Who, when I watch them play, and obviously some statistics go to match that, but who is the best player in the sport? And I think this year that basically comes down to Jeremiah Smith and Malachi Tony for me. Okay. I don't think Jeremiah Smith is going to be in the running any longer because I don't think his statistics are going to be able to live up to it with a backup quarterback. That is totally fair, even though just about everyone knows he is the best player in college football, or they think he's the best player in college football. Okay, I personally think Malachi Tony is better. So do I. I think he's better. So do I. And then there's this part of the discussion.

I just knocked my microphone away by five feet. This part of the discussion being who is more responsible for a team's offense being as great as Miami's offenses. Is it Darian Mensah, the quarterback who seems to barely throw an incompletion, much less not turn the ball over? Or is it Malachi Tony, the unstoppable force that defenses are trying to stop? And you saw Bill Belichick actively trying to stop him with the way they were playing him.

Taylor, don't look now, but I feel like we're headed towards a credit pie. That's what I felt coming in the oven. It's in the oven. Yeah, I can smell a little waffle. It has a distinct smell. Yes, it does. It smells delicious. November is a good month for pies. Put it on the poll, Taylor. It's November a good month for pies. So, yeah, I look at this and I say, look, I think it's clear and obvious. Like, if I am choosing who's the best football player, I think it's Malachi Tony. Between Malachi Tony and Darian Mensah.

I think it's Malachi Tony. Okay. Malachi Tony was good last year with a different quarterback. Correct. I'm following you down this path, and I, too, think Malachi Tony, I'm not certain he's going to win it. He'd be a deserving winner, but I just think it goes to the best quarterback. Well, that's the other thing, right, is which position is more difficult to play at the level they are playing it. Sure. Is it the wide receiver position, or is it the quarterback position? I think most people would say easily it's the quarterback position, but then.

When you put the two guys on the same team, how much easier is Darian Mensah's job to complete? Because he's got, arguably, the best player in college football as one of his receivers. I think it's all fascinating. I'm not usually hung up on, you know, Heisman races. I guess the year Charles Woodson wanted it was pretty interesting. That was the head of Peyton Manning, right? Yes, but this one is one of my favorites. Yeah, what you loved about Woodson was they gave it to the right player that year. Charles Woodson was the best player in college football that year. Sure. I feel like that was probably a year where you're just like, oh, well, you're trying to find arguments against a quarterback, and that's a great year to do it. Now, this year, do you need to see Malachi Tony do something in the return game?

To see him throw a couple more passes, to make him just look like the tool that you have that, you know, you just can't stop and you can use a number of ways? Right. Or is it just good enough to see him as a receiver to see, you know, defenses tremble when they, you know, have to face him? So one of the things that's working against Malachi Tony is every time he does something well, it means Mensah has done something well. Yeah. And so that comes to the argument of like, well, who's making it easier for whom? Yes. Is Tony wide open all the time? Right. Is he making ridiculous catches? Yeah, on both of those. And runs after the catch. And runs after the catch. And, I mean, he's not even that big. So he's doing it at, you know, not only a young age at 19, but doing it at not the most, not Jeremiah Smith size. Right.

And so I think, and here's the other part, right? If Jeremiah Smith somehow does do the opposite of what I just said and continues to put up great numbers despite the fact that he doesn't have his number one quarterback out there, then does he become the far and away winner in part because the other two are kind of splitting votes based on this debate that we're having. I think it's just kind of like the human centipede of Heisman races. I think it's phenomenal. Taylor, do you have the numbers last year for Darian Mensah without Malachi Tony when he was playing at Duke? Do you have those numbers? Yeah, so last year at Duke, he completed 66.8% of his passes for 3,973 yards, threw for 34 touchdowns.

Six interceptions. This year, he had 25 touchdowns to one interception. His completion percentage is up from 66.8% last year to 80.7% this year. Do you have Malachi Tony's numbers? I would just say this about Mensah. He was really good before he even got here. I understand what it is you're saying, but that's a hell of a year at Duke, you know, without Malachi Tony. So now Tony last year with Carson Beck, right? Yeah, so Malachi Tony last year had 109 catches for 1,211 yards. Ridiculous.

He has 73 catches this year for 1,027 yards. He's almost past his total this year. And last year he had 11 touchdowns because he had a rushing touchdown. This year he's already surpassed that with 13 touchdowns. That's the other thing about the quarterback position too. It doesn't, if you're playing exceptionally well, doesn't necessarily jump off the screen at you. What did Tom Brady do that was so amazing to watch? Nothing really other than find the open guy and make the right decision. Darian Mensah sits back there, super calm, waits for the right guy to come open, throws the ball at the right time, and the one interception being, I think, the statistic that jumps off the screen the most because it's ridiculous. He's a college fan.

football player you should be able to make more than one mistake yeah he doesn't make any is he right now the odds on favorite on FanDuel is Darian Mensah plus 160 then Jeremiah Smith at plus 280 Malachi Tony's plus 410 if I'm a Heisman voter for the same points that you're making Izzy I'm giving it to Malachi Tony because I think if you give the Heisman to Darian Mensah and I don't want to take away anything from Darian Mensah because he's having an unbelievable season but giving him the Heisman almost feels like rewarding the quarterback for getting the ball to the most dangerous player in all of college football where to your point in the North Carolina game we just saw it every defensive coordinator every head coach is going into a game when they play against Miami with one question How do we stop Malachi Tony? Yes, not Mensah, but I would just say this about Mensah. Last year, he was not throwing it to Malachi Tony. He wasn't throwing it to any of the best wide receivers in the country, and he still put up the numbers that he put up.

At Duke. And this is just, again, a product of football. Like, again, I say I want to give it to the guy that looks like the best football player out there. And to me, that's Malachi Tony. I said last year, his freshman year, that he looked like going to be the best Kane ever. But again, when you're talking about who actually is the best football player, it's not necessarily the guy that jumps out the screen at you. It could very well be the quarterback who's just calculating things, you know, at a speed that nobody else does, at a rate that nobody else does, and then accurately delivering the ball every time. I mean, you could be a robot back there, a machine back there, and not really wow you with any particular skill, but you are the most important player on that field. So the other thing to consider is I don't know who's making who better.

better, but perhaps they just got better because they're playing another year, right? Like they were both freshmen last year. Now they're sophomores getting older. Were they both freshmen last year? No, Darren Ments is a junior. So he's a junior, but I'm just saying the progression of each player, hardworking players, right? Malachi Tony, the thing you hear most about Malachi Tony, first one at the practice facility, last one to leave a relentless worker. He's a fan. I would give him the Heisman trophy. My fear is he's not going to get it only because they always give it to the best quarterback, except for the year they gave it to Woodson. I think I'll tell you another thing that's sort of in the back of the minds of voters. It might be in the back of the minds of voters. Eventually is what you just said. One of those guys, only one of the three has to come back next year. I'll give it to Tony next year.

Yes. There is no reason why somebody like Malachi Tony has to come back to my end. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. Especially like if you want to say he's a little small, he can get stronger. I mean, in the NFL, you put him as a slot receiver right now. He fits in with everybody else body wise. He's a top five receiver on the Chiefs. I mean, if you put him on the Chiefs. Okay. Top five on the Chiefs. No, he's the best receiver on the Chiefs. He's a top five receiver in the league. He'd be a top 10 pick in this upcoming draft. Oh, he should. I think Izzy's point is he should be a top five pick.

Again, if you already have a quarterback, yes, but then, again, it speaks to the importance of that quarterback position because if you put him on a team without a quarterback, you put him on a team that just has, I don't know, just any terrible quarterback out there, doesn't Herbert maybe, then he won't be dearly as good. There should be a committee that comes out and grades these guys beforehand. Let's entrust Mel Kuyper for it. Where if Mel Kuyper comes in and he gives an underclassman a top 10 pick grade, then that guy's allowed to declare for the NFL draft. Shouldn't the best player overall, according to Mel, just win the Heisman Trophy?

You just want the Kuyper Trophy. I think I'd rather win the Kuyper than the Heisman. Put it on the poll. Would you rather win the Kuyper Trophy? I think Shador won it last year. Than the Heisman Trophy. Shador did win it. I've never heard of that trophy. Going away. The Kuyper Trophy? No, never heard of it. It's a new trophy. Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company live weekdays at 3 p.m. Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Eating well shouldn't be complicated, but somehow it turns into recipes, prep, cleanup, and half your Sunday gone. Factor solves all that. These are fresh, ready-to-eat meals designed by dieticians, delivered to your door and ready in just minutes. No prep, no cleanup, no excuses. And it's not just about convenience. You're getting real food, balanced nutrition, and zero artificial stuff. Meals that help you stay on track for all of your goals without the grind of doing it all yourself. Grilled chicken, roasted veggies, steak plates, pasta bowls. They taste like something you'd get in a restaurant, but they come out of your microwave in two minutes flat.

If time, cost, or effort have been holding you back from eating better, Factor just took those off the table. Right now, get up to $90 off and free shipping. Hurry, this offer won't last long. Go to factormeals.ca and use code POWER. That's up to $90 off and free shipping, but only with the code POWER at factormeals.ca.

Factor, Canada's number one meal delivery service. The thought of him planning a proposal to me. He's going to need help. I'm like, what if he has a ring that I don't like? Wondering how Gen Z is falling in love? Curious about what marriage means today? Tune in to Ring On It, presented by Charm Diamond Centers. Hosted by two best friends, one a full-blown romantic, the other a curious skeptic. A podcast that explores every side of modern commitment. Listen to Ring On It today, wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, everyone.

I wanted to let that play out. I could have saved you there, but he had a disconnection in his microphone. I just wanted to stare and laugh for a minute. 877-99 on Fox. It's what I do. I give out the number, but I'm trying to reconnect myself to the input. Before we get to Dan Beyer and we talk a little bit about Luca here and Rashad White could have joined us at hour number two. Are you guys, Izzy, are you excited? The college football playoff committee reveals its first rankings of the season tonight. Are you excited for it? Well, I mean, no, because first of all, I've always been a proponent of saving it just for the last week and never giving any previews because imagine the ratings that show's going to get when you don't really.

know what's coming right uh but also it's a lot of good games this Saturday yes we're all gonna like everyone's gonna be upset and everyone's gonna have a reaction to it and that's why they do it by the way so we talk about it but uh it is funny that people Taylor do you care you care definitely right I care about the rankings, and I'm going to watch it just because Reese Davis is on my television. I'll never turn down an opportunity to see Reese Davis on my TV. That's always a good reason. But regardless of how the rankings come out, to Izzy's point, Utah plays BYU this weekend. One of those teams is going to lose. Alabama plays LSU. One of those teams is going to have three losses on their resume. Oregon plays Ohio State. Ohio State could, you know, lose their third game of the season. Meaning whatever happens tonight, Kentucky plays Tennessee. Miami plays Notre Dame. What a weekend. Georgia plays. What a weekend. Georgia plays Ole Miss. Iowa plays Northwestern. Meaning whatever they reveal tonight means nothing.

And yet we're all going to get in a tizzy about it, you know? I think people are getting to tizzies about other things tonight. Like? You know, the elections. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Election Day. I voted on Sunday. Thank goodness I got that done. I wanted to bust out my list of athletes, people in sports who can note Election Day. Michael Gallup. End of list. Taylor, we did that a year ago. Who was number one again? Campaign. Campaign. Oh, wow. Was he still in the league? He's not in the league. Drunk candidate. No, Campaign's in a... I just saw him in EuroLeague playing. Yeah, well, that's where Campaign goes when he's done playing in the NBA. The most EuroLeague...

basketball player i've ever seen like euro league was made for somebody like campaign yes uh we'll get to luca in just a second but first let's go to dan buyer he's out in sherman oaks and he has a sports update i think i may have seen that campaign clip as well because he was talking about how much he loved playing over in europe he was having a grand old time just like again what's that he's relevant there right uh by the way i did see on social media some rings were handed out for northwestern lacrosse last night stew is that Can you confirm? Yes, yes. It was over the weekend, a ring ceremony. My daughter collected her second ring and now has two more rings than Kevin Durant. How about that? All right. Thank you, Dan. Izzy, the NBA season, still early. Taylor feeling better about his Knicks, though. I have anointed the Sixers the best team in the NBA. But one of the teams that has surprised me early on, they lose LeBron, but the Lakers. And listen, I have criticized Luka a lot, a lot over the last five or six years.

But my God, he's averaging just under 40 points a game, and that team is pretty damn good. It is insane how good this guy is. And there's been a lot to criticize about Luka over the years, mostly because of his fitness level and his sort of aversion to defense in the past. He's been playing defense this year. That about covers it right there, yes. Well, there's a couple other things. I mean, okay. A couple things about Luka. Number one.

Everybody was waiting, wanting to hand the league over to Victor Wimbanyama after last year's finals and say, okay, the Knicks got their turn, but starting next year, it's Wemby. It's Wemby for life, and it's Wemby for the next 20 years. We said the same things about Giannis after he won one. Right, right. How's that going? Luka said, hang on a second. He said, I'm going to lose some weight and then watch what I do. And, man, I don't think I've ever seen...

a more unstoppable offensive force than Luka Doncic. Like, for starters, do you remember, like, have you seen his videos of his ridiculous trick shots? No. Like, they're absolutely, like, I know you've seen them with Steph Curry over the years. Luka's are even more impressive. Really? More regular. And just, like, this guy's got, it feels like he's got the ball on a string. He can, you know, put it in the basket from anywhere. But he's averaging currently 38.3 points a game. Yes. Do you know, well, first of all, do you know in the non-Wilt Chamberlain division what the highest scoring average of all time in the NBA is? Non-Wilt division.

I mean, I don't imagine you know the number off the top of your head. I don't know the number off the top of my head. Did T-Mac have a season? Jesus, no, not that good. No, not T-Mac. The number is, coincidentally, 38.3, the exact number that Luke is averaging right now. Right, MJ. Do you know the player? Jordan? No. Dominique? I can tell you the team, and I still don't think you would get it. Go ahead, team. Los Angeles Lakers. Wilt? It's a non-wilt division. Kobe? No.

He had 35, was the highest ever. It's not James Harden. Obviously, he's not a Laker. James Harden had 36. Julius Randle. Julius Randle. Julius Randle. Julius Randle. Are you kidding me? He'd still be there if he did that. The forgotten Lakers, I like to call him. Nobody else calls him that. Elgin Baylor. He had 38.3 in the 61-62 season. By the way, he also averaged, what was it, 18.2.

won 18.6 rebounds that season, finished fourth in the MVP ring. Fourth. Fourth. But Luka's currently averaging 38.3, and it's just an impossible version of offense to stop in today's NBA. Like, the Miami Heat played them yesterday, and Luka ended with 42 points, I believe 13 assists. Yep.

And they started the game, basically, the Heat did, aggressively double-teaming Luka. Trying to force the ball out of his hands and, hey, let's see what happens playing four-on-three the other way. Early on, didn't really work out. The four-on-three was very effective for the Lakers. And it wasn't even like, it didn't even have to be somebody else doing the playmaking. It was just pretty much Luka making, despite the double-team, a great pass and maybe one more pass and boom, we've got a wide-open shooter.

I've never seen a singular player sort of take the heat out of what they've wanted to do so easily ever in my life. And Luca, and it's the shots that he's making. It's not like he's getting to the rim all the time, although he could get there more often. He is just taking ridiculous, like what most other people in the world would call ridiculously tough shots and making them at a high clip. Why get to the rim when you're shooting 43% from three? I mean, and it's not like he's just sitting there wide open, although a couple of them were eventually open shots, but he is hitting them with a guy directly in his face. And it is, you know, when you put in, you know, Austin Reeves, I'm a big fan of is another guy who's just, I mean,

very, very difficult scorer to stop because he uses his body so well. You've got, you know, Walker Kessler now as his lob threat. Side note, by the way, if 90 plus percent of the league can catch a lob and dunk it, why isn't everybody a lob threat? It's fair. Walker Kessler's a Laker, huh? Yes. What? He's got other guys around him doing a great job, you know, defending, hitting open threes. Matisse Teibel, all of a sudden, is a good three-point shooter. He's making other players better. He does. He makes everybody around him better. And he is just currently the most unstoppable force in the league. And, I mean...

The last guy who averaged 35-plus was James Harden with the Rockets, and he won the MVP that season. And you never felt about James Harden the way you feel about Luka Doncic right now. James Harden, you used to get upset because he got these calls. He sort of manipulated the game a little bit with the refereeing. You know, he kind of seemed like he took an extra step on his sidestep or pullback threes. But Luka is just jaw-droppingly phenomenal. It's almost a combination of Wemby because he's a little bigger and Steph because of the shot-making, where it's just like, what can I do with this guy? And if he does average the most non—because look.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if he gets closer to 40 points a game, if he averages 40 points a game this season. Yeah, same. Because he's had a few 40 points. He hasn't had the big 55, 60-point outbursts yet. Right. He's going to have, if he stays healthy, a good number of those. And I think he might touch 40 per game. And when you think about the way we used to fawn over Kobe Bryant. Yes. And when Kobe had the 35-point season, we said, we're looking at the greatest offensive player. No, no. You're not even looking at the best Laker of all time right now because Luka Doncic is that ridiculous. The things working against Luka as it relates to Wemby. Wemby, I feel like, has a better supporting cast right now.

Right? Sure. Doesn't have to do as much as Luka would have to do for the Lakers to... Is that fair? I don't know. I don't know. Because I think Austin Reeves or Dylan Harper, I think when you're choosing for the long term, you're picking Dylan Harper. But for today, I think you might take Austin Reeves. But you also have Castle. You have some other players. I just feel like they're a bit deeper. That's all I guess is what I'm saying. I think the positive for Luka in comparison to Wemby is that...

the ball is going to be in Luka's hand a lot more, and his usage rate is going to be a lot higher to control his team's success. Well, the other thing working against Luka is we're seven or eight games in here, and people are just waiting for Luka to be out for three weeks. Yeah. Well, okay. So we want to talk about the negatives. But maybe this is the season he doesn't do it. I don't know. It's possible. It's quite possible because, again, I think he probably thought to himself when everybody's handing the league over to Victor Wimbanyama, give me a second. Yes. Give me a second. Allow me to play 75 games in a year, and you'll see what kind of numbers I put up. Defense be damned. But if you want to talk about the negatives of Luka,

It has nothing to do with actual basketball because I'm with Yaxa Lindenburg. Shut up, dude. Shut up. Everything is not a foul. Every single possession is not having this whole discourse with the referees on your way back to play defense. He got a technical foul last night that I don't think anybody in the league gets, but it's just because I've had enough. Just shut up. And he also does this thing, and it's weird.

He makes these facial gestures that make it seem like something's hurting on him at all times. Like, he's going back to a timeout, and he's just like, ooh, what is that? It's almost like he's got gas, and he just can't figure out, you know, where that pain is coming from. And it's just like, as a Lakers fan, I'd obviously ignore all that. I'd spend my time, you know, yelling at the refs, too, instead of paying attention to him. Yes. But good God, is that an annoying, absolutely aggravating part of a guy who's, again, the best offensive player in the league, probably the best offensive player we've seen in a long time, but he just complains about everything. Yes. Taylor, put it on the poll. Does Luka look like he always has gas? Seriously. Like, there was a point last night where I was like, ooh, he might not play.

the rest of this game based just on his facial gestures, but of course he was just fine. Izzy, when it comes to the Lakers and on the topic of making a face, I made a face when somebody said something because Shaq on Inside the NBA. He called Walker Kessler the best big man in the NBA before he gave him the new nickname, Milk Chamberlain. That's a good nickname, though. No, it's not. It's not a good nickname because Wilt Chamberlain is rolling around in his grave somewhere because he's just like, do you guys know that I wasn't just a dunker? Do you guys know that I was one of the greatest athletes in the world? Like, he was a high jumper. He was a volleyball player. He did all kinds of stuff. And basketball skill-wise can do weight. Like, I saw Walker Kessler, like, missed a two-footer yesterday. Yes. Like, Wilt would never. How do you think Wemby absorbed that? I mean, just from Shaq. Right? I mean, it's... I don't even think about Wemby in that scenario because, of course...

to that stuff. Well, of course, Shaq hates any big man that takes a shot outside the paint, even though Shaq loved taking the, you know, occasional three late in his career. Or challenges Shaq's greatness. Right. Right? Yes. I mean, the fact that Walker Kessler is averaging or shooting somewhere around 80% for the season is just a testament to Luka Doncic. It's like, Luka said, hey, I need a big man who is, you know, a lob threat and this is my favorite skill, a rim runner. That's like, I mean, seriously, if you tell me to run to the rim, I can do it, right? But a big guy who's a rim runner, I need that guy. You could have picked a ton of guys in the league and you picked Walker Kessler because he was available and probably wasn't even playing that much with Utah lately.

And now he's turning him into this. He's turning him into Milk Chamberlain. Like, that's just a 100% testament to Luca. I think your point about Luka being closer to 40 than he is 30 in terms of points per game this year, he's had one 52-point game. But everything else has been right around the average. It seems like he's going to average right around 40 points per game this season. Yeah, so it's not like a James Harden where he'll go for 20 and then 22 and then have a streak of like three straight 60-point games. No, he is going to give you, you can probably bank about 35 a night, and then on his good nights, he's going to give you 50 or 60, especially if he stays healthy and stays in a rhythm. And, you know, his supporting cast stays healthy as well. He's going to be a guy who maybe averages 40 a game, and that you can't say, oh, it's the style of game. Oh, he's taking advantage of the officiating, this and this and that. In fact, I mean.

The way he complains, I feel like the officials don't want to give him calls. It's just like, you're already that good and you're yelling at me? No, I'm not going to give you that foul. Stop with that fake pain face. It's the worst. I think Walker Kessler is less Milk Chamberlain and more Shaquille Oatmeal. Shaquille Oatmeal. Oh, no. Deserved it. No, that was a good one. Yeah, but it didn't come out correctly. He knows it. Some Oatmeal has brown sugar in it. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsportsradio.com. And within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live.

Eating well shouldn't be complicated, but somehow it turns into recipes, prep, cleanup, and half your Sunday gone. Factor solves all that. These are fresh, ready-to-eat meals designed by dieticians, delivered to your door and ready in just minutes. No prep, no cleanup, no excuses. And it's not just about convenience. You're getting real food, balanced nutrition, and zero artificial stuff. Meals that help you stay on track for all of your goals without the grind of doing it all yourself. Grilled chicken, roasted veggies, steak plates, postables. They taste like something you'd get in a restaurant, but they come out of your microwave in two minutes flat.

If time, cost, or effort have been holding you back from eating better, Factor just took those off the table. Right now, get up to $90 off and free shipping. Hurry, this offer won't last long. Go to factormeals.ca and use code POWER. That's up to $90 off and free shipping, but only with the code POWER at factormeals.ca. Factor, Canada's number one meal delivery service.

Oh, group shot. I'll take it. No, we're good. There's one in every group. The Notographer. Best intentions, worst shots. But there's hope. The Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra on Bell. Super steady videos and perfectly framed shots with my pan cam and nitography for stellar pics even in low light. I want that. Yep, post-worthy with just a click. All on Bell. Canada's fastest 5G plus network. Visit a Bell store or bell.ca slash Samsung for details. Bell. Connection is everything.

Izzy, I asked Mikey A. and Taylor earlier today if they could change their fandom, their NFL fandom. What team would they be most comfortable rooting for for the next decade in terms of excitement, in terms of potential, in terms of teams you think are going to be good for the next 10 years? And we all agreed that that team would be the Chicago Bears. Oh, I thought you were going to say whatever team Matt Collins is playing for. That's always his answer. But we all agreed it would be when you consider Ben Johnson, when you consider the trade they just made, when you consider Caleb Williams, and when you consider just how good that team already is, I think if you could change your fandom, I think most people would choose.

the Chicago Bears? I do find it funny if you ask that question, even a year ago, a lot of people would have said the LA Chargers. 10 years is a long time because I could see myself cheering for the Raiders because I really like Fernando Mendoza, but he's an improving commodity, you're right. And so the Bears is an easier pick. But yeah, man, you guys help me out here for a second because maybe I'm remembering this wrong.

Before this season started, or during the offseason, let's just say, weren't people very much excited about the Chargers? I don't know if it just had to do with the idea that Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniel were, you know, to some people's eyes, a great marriage. But I feel like people were extremely excited about the possibility of what this team could do, right? I picked them to go to the Super Bowl. What was that based on, Taylor? Looking back, personnel-wise, what was that based on? Because I'm looking at this team, and I'm just like, who are we supposed to be that excited about? I'm guessing, and Taylor can answer for himself, but it was based on coach.

offensive coordinator, quarterback, and quarterback hair. And last year, when Jim Harbaugh goes 11-6, back-to-back years, and takes the Chargers to the playoffs now, they still haven't won a playoff game with Justin Herbert where they lost in the wildcard round in back-to-back years. But I think you kind of explained away them losing to the Patriots last year in New England as their offensive line kind of just broke down. They didn't really have much of an offensive line. And I think the hope this year was with a healthy offensive line, with Mike McDaniel coming to town, with Justin Herbert taking this next step, they were going to be ready to kind of make a deep playoff run. And they have done...

The complete opposite of that. Izzy, it's why I say all the time, we don't know what we're watching on Sundays. We have no idea. Because we only pay attention to head coach and the quarterback, and we know nothing else. I didn't know that the Chargers had a bad offensive line, a depleted offensive line, a bad defensive line. I had no idea. I'm with Taylor. I saw Herbert, a great head of hair, a good coach, and I figured, hey, they're going to be pretty decent. I mean, you talk about Justin Herbert taking the next step. Taking a step and then throwing it to whom? Lad McConkie? Was that supposed to be our Super Bowl MVP? Never dawned on me. I saw clips this weekend, or on Monday, rather.

of the worst offensive line play I've ever seen in my life. If you told me that the Chargers offensive line were doing one of two things, gambling, or they hated Justin Herbert with all their heart, I would believe both of those things. Like, I've never seen this level of just terrible, just incompetence from the offensive line. And normally, normally, I don't know if this is my experience or if this is the actual truth, but normally you see an offensive line, they get better as the season goes along. There's a little bit more cohesion. This one's worse. Opposite. Like, just turning, like, unbelievable straight lines to the quarterback because the guy right next to him, they just choose, pretending they don't see him.

and just give him a straight line to the quarterback. I've never seen. And then, so I started asking myself, I was like, wait, what were the personnel? Are they the ones who got Miles Garrett? And I forgot. Like, what were the personnel reasons as to why everybody was picking them? And the personnel reason was not even real personnel. It was Mike McDaniel. Taylor, put it on the poll. Is it odd that football is one of the trenches, yet we pay no attention to the trenches? I mean, that's essentially what you're saying. And you're right. What makes the Bears so exciting, in addition to the things I listed before, is the offensive line is really good and the defensive line is better. I mean, it's just, they're a monster, man. Yeah, Izzy, and to the additions that the Chargers made, they brought in a...

center from the Washington Commanders, and he got hurt in training camp. He was supposed to be a pretty big piece of the offensive line. They bring in David Njoku, who has had some moments and some flashes in Cleveland, but still, he's never really looked like he could be that star tight end that somebody like Travis Kelsey is. But yeah, I'm wearing this one because they were my pick. I think my Super Bowl pick was Chargers-Cowboys now that I'm thinking. Wow. I mean, since they were your Super Bowl pick, we should all be rooting for 0-17. I said, oh, they drafted Akeem Mesidor from the Miami team where they were great with Reuben Bain. I also wonder if this...

like permanently makes Justin Herbert into a bad quarterback? Because when you experience this level of incompetence around you, do you then start to see ghosts every time you're out there? Do you then, you know, not trust your instincts as a quarterback? Because again, nobody really thought he was, you know, top five in the league, but they thought he was progressing, thought he had potential. And now it's just like, man, he can't carry anything. And you wonder how it's going to affect his or impact his confidence moving forward here. You're right. Because I think a lot of people at some point, Taylor, he was on the fringe of being a top five guy, right? Based strictly on hair. Well, he still is. He's going to look great on the Jets next year. We'll be back after this.

How do you know that Claude won't become manipulative? This is a constant worry. And you can actually catch the model thinking, I think X is actually true, but I'm going to tell the user why. I'm Walter Isaacson. On my new podcast, The Builders, I'm going inside the minds of the people shaping our future. Listen to The Builders starting October 13th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

It's all just a joke. What is the value of these women? I'm Bridget Armstrong, back with season two of the podcast Curse of Miss America. We're talking to participants, whistleblowers, and people who say Miss America didn't live up to their promises. He looks at me and goes, you don't look like you suffered an eating disorder. I never received scholarship money to pay for my student loans. Maybe this is the meta question for the podcast. Why is Miss America at this point? Listen to the Curse of Miss America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In October 2021, my brother David was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.

A year later, he convinced me to make a podcast with him. This podcast. My biggest fear is that I am afraid of being forgotten. My Brother David is the story of the last chapter of my brother's life. It's weird and messy and vulnerable, and I'm gonna share all of it with you. Okay, so here we go. Listen to My Brother David on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

There are thousands of podcasts that can tell you how to better yourself. Get Worse with Kyle Pru is not one of those podcasts. So if you're interested in getting thinner, going to therapy, starting peptides, setting boundaries, taking supplements, making you better, getting closure, then I would humbly recommend other podcasts. If you're interested in blackmail, love bombing, cloning yourself or getting revenge, then we've got a little something something for a dastardly individual like you. Listen to Get Worse with Kyle Pru on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

Frequently asked questions

How long is this episode of Stugotz and Company LIVE!?

This episode is 37 minutes long.

When was this Stugotz and Company LIVE! episode published?

This episode was published on November 3, 2026.

Is there a transcript available for this episode?

Yes, a full transcript is available for this episode. You can read the complete transcript on the episode page.

Can I download this Stugotz and Company LIVE! episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.