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Hour 2- Doubling Down on a Celtics Prediction

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Stugotz and Company break down the latest flub by Dan Quinn, Jayden Daniels and the Commanders. Stu and the guys welcome NBA reporter Tom Haberstroh onto the show to preview the new season. Plus, Izzy doubles down on his Celtics prediction.

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And if you don't call, we'll talk baseball. Let's go out to Kelly, who is in a state of Washington today. Kelly, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio. What up, Steve? Enjoy your show.

Thank you. How are you? Well, you know, the Spanish shining, the fall colors are beautiful. Other than that, my question for is, do you think for real that the Sonics will ever come back to Seattle? Because honestly, I really don't pay attention to the NBA anymore because my team got so much.

So, bear, bear question. Do I think they will be back? It's interesting. I've been reading some stuff that makes it seem a little questionable whether they'll be back or not. I know the league likes the idea of having them back, but you know, they're obviously making sure that it's got to be more than just nostalgia.

There's got to be money there. There's got to be, you know, an obvious arena that they can fill up every single night. So, yeah, I mean, I love to live in a world where they're definitely going to be back, but I think, you know, the latest I've heard is that it's not certainly a sure thing. So, you know, that's not my favorite discussion is the business of, you know, potential new franchises. Right. But, I mean, for the sake of the NBA, I hope they are.

Guys, we have found ourselves in quite the pickle here because we are threatening people to call in by threatening that we'll talk baseball and we have a call on the board and he wants to talk about baseball. No, no. So what do we do? He's fighting fire with fire. I think this color is helping us draw in more college.

Let's go to John. He's in Michigan. John, go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, how are you doing today? Hey, I just had a comment.

Does the Fox Sports channel have grief counseling for their announcers because after the Dodgers lost the pennant to the Brewers, all like a picture was all the announcers getting in their cars driving up Highway 1 and driving off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings. Charlie Steiner. Yes. I think Dodger and ounces are probably happy they get out early this year. You know, I don't know many to break. Yes. Let's work. Right.

Who doesn't want less work? Izzy, we were laughing earlier. 87799 on Fox. We were laughing earlier. Me and Taylor during one of the podcasts that we did before the show about Dan Quinn and Jayden Daniels that if you were a comedian, you could not write it up any better than what happened last night with Dan with Dan Quinn not knowing a week removed from that to buckle against the New York Giants where Ty felt like a loss and Jayden Daniels looked lost and the entire coaching staff looked terrible. Okay.

And six days later, they're in a showcase game Monday night football and Dan Quinn has no idea what down it is. They went forward on fourth. He wanted to kick a field goal on fifth down. Jayden Daniels had to remind him. Hey, we just went forward on fourth.

Well, help me out here, Taylor, because was there an illegal shift there on that plate because he's sort of justifying it saying he thought maybe they could go for a field goal after a penalty or something like that. I can, you know, I'm not a thousand percent. Look, if there's any real truth to that he didn't know what down it was, I feel like people in that team would know that and I feel like you lose all respect for your coach in that situation. The problem though with giving Dan Quinn the benefit of the doubt is we're coming off one of the most inexcusable endings to a game where they let the clock run out against the Giants where this was just such a bad look for Jayden Daniels like it wasn't a legal shift, but the second that play ends in a negative result for the commanders, the 49ers are just going to decline the penalty and say we're taking the ball. Now, if you want to make the excuse for Jayden Daniels, why Jayden Daniels throws the ball away on fourth down instead of letting his receiver have a chance to make a play on the ball, maybe I'm willing to hear that where he thinks the flag might be off sides. It's a free play. They're going to get a first down anyways. Even then, like if it's a free play, still just throw the ball up to one of your receivers and best case scenario. You come down with a touchdown worst case scenario. You just have to replay the down. They're thinking too much out there. We have sound of Dan Quinn being asked about that play. Let's play it. No, I definitely was worth that. We're going for it and I was thinking we're going to be front of the five. Like with the illegal shift, there's not a penalty to go for a field goal. Like it doesn't go like this to turn on downs. Like somebody asked me. Can we take a field goal? No, we were going for it. We knew we had to go for some four towns to be bold in the game. I didn't think it was going to be a 17, 14 game. Like I probably thought it was going to lead 28 to score, you know, to

go. It was by design that we were going to go, but I knew what happened. I think that probably is commenting. I've remembered somebody asking me after a legal shift, like it was turned on down. So he also came off so I'll tell me. I think somebody asked me. Can we kick a field goal? So he's not the unit. He's

just surrounded by idiots. He's saying, okay, can we kick a field goal here? Are they going to accept that penalty? Yes. We did say earlier if they were making the movie, dumb and dumb or based on two NFL figures, it would be Dan Quinn and Jayden Daniels. What drives me crazy. I mean, Taylor,

is Jayden Daniels a mobile quarterback? Yes. Okay. So why don't they put him in position more often to have a run option? Like no, they're afraid his arm is going to break. They are.

They can slide. He can go out of bounds. But even that last fourth down at the end of the game where he chucked it to Stefan Diggs in the corner of the end zone or the front of the end zone, why don't you have an opportunity to pick up that first down with your legs? Like he is supposed to be, you know, Lamar Jackson, Esque. And he does not look at all like a player who has that ability this year, nor is he seemingly been put in positions in big spots to be able to do that. It's just

remarkable to me that Dan Quinn, a lifelong football guy, has put himself in the position where after the game, people are asking him about elementary things. Did you know what down it was? But he did this to himself. I honestly, his answer makes me think he's lying just because under normal circumstances there. I don't care who you are. You would absolutely get super defensive

there and just say, that's a ridiculous question. Of course, I knew it down. It was, I don't care what people think my what I said at the moment, lip readers, etc. Because his answer was terrible. Yes. Let's go out to Davey who's in Virginia today wants to talk Laker basketball. Davey, go ahead.

You're on Fox Sports Radio. What do you think about the snowshoe in LA? Oh, man. Is that what's going to be? It's going to be a race thing with the Lakers all year long.

I was there. Do you know what's going to be like that? Oh, you're low. Yeah, no, it's I think they're going to be really good. Look, I think probably if it's not WEMBY, it's Luca. If both of those guys play 65 plus games, it's going to be a race to the MVP

between those two. I think skinny Luca is going to be even better than he was last year. I think Walker Kessler, I mean, I fell in love with Walker Kessler in Utah and think he's going to be sort of the perfect pairing with Luca. If he can stay healthy, especially defensively, he can really protect the rim. I just think they're going to be excellent. I think, you know, he's got everything he needs around

him. Obviously, you know, with, uh, why is his name is Austin Reese. Austin Reeves there. If he can play all star level basketball for the course of the season, I think the Lakers are, you know, again, in a not so deep Western conference, we'll almost guarantee it at top three seed, but can they sneak into that top two? I mean, if Luca's healthy enough, possibly Kevin herder is a piston red velvet.

He was a person last year. He just ended the season injured. Yeah, just ended this half with the buzzer beater. Yeah, they're going to take it away here. I think they are. Or maybe they're not. It's 58,

48 going to halftime in Detroit. Celtics lead the Pistons at through one half. Is he's wrong? Do one half. My Celtics aren't going to be very good. Does not look like a great prediction. However,

not only is it an 82 game season, if Paul George was ever going to show up, it's going to be the first couple of games. Yes. Let's go to, uh, this is an our wheelhouse Taylor because we want to be the Carolina Panther experts. Eli in North Carolina. Go ahead. You're on Fox Sports radio.

Hey, what's up gang guys? How are you? Listen, man? Listen, I mean, what a week. What a week, right?

I know, you know, I hope you get better soon. But I mean, that defense was great, right? I mean, it was wonderful or not against them. And um, how about the Oklahoma City Thunder? I mean, games back on tonight, nine 30 years to Tom. Let's get it, baby. So I'm not done in first. Uh,

it's yeah. Three of three three of these are so I don't know about another MVP. That's a lot to ask for. However, what I do think about the Thunder is they are, you know, as long as they have this group, as long as they have him leading the way, they're going to be a monster regular season team all the time, whether they can, you know, complete the task and beat the best of the best in every seven game series. They play out a whole different question. But, um, and I know there's

questions about his eligibility. I don't know if that's been updated yet, but Mara, the rookie from Michigan, if he can actually play for this team, um, they're, they're going to be even better because, I mean, he was, he looked so good in the preseason and we all know, Chad Holngren probably needs a bit of a boost because, um, I think his soul was taken last playoffs against WEMB. Um, but yeah, I think that team with Jay Williams, healthy again and everything that they've added. Um, I mean, even Jared McCain for a full season and everything he brings to that team, Bennett Sturtz. If he can crack the rotation seems to be another great shooter to put around SG. I think they're going to be,

you know, as good as everybody expects. Taylor, what happened there? I feel like we were two because he called in. He wanted to talk Carolina Panthers. It's our wheelhouse. The call screen that said

Carolina Panthers. No one talks more bright, young and Jalen Coker than us. I mean, nobody. I only want to talk about said a row of McMillan. So we have been trying to become the Carolina Panthers show. I think we are. We are. We are here to Charlie. And one of the listeners wrote in saying that we

should try to get Jake D'Alone on the show and Jake D'Alone should be our, our way in because Jake D'Alone does game day broadcast for the, for the Panthers and the listeners suggested that we do a segment with Jake D'Alone, a pick segment where he has to pick between the Jake D'Alone team or the Jake D'Alway team. Yeah. I can't have it zooming up. Oh man, I love that. You should just be the show that just represents Charlotte altogether because it wasn't the first ones or maybe each other.

Yeah. That's how I know the Hornets are going for it because I'm so plugged in on what's going on. Unfortunately, I think they're going to have a significant drop off this year. I know the metal ball is some people thought he was an issue, but no, he was definitely an engine. And I just don't know if this deep Eastern Conference of the Hornets are going to be going for it. I'm glad

you brought him up. Do you think that's going to work him and Anthony Edwards together? I think it's going to work for the ratings. I think it's going to work for fun. I mean, even I mean, Anthony Edwards is the most interesting personality in the NBA since I don't know what Allen Iverson maybe like he's just so much fun. And when he said recently that, you know, be ready when the

Minnesota Timberwolves come into your town because they're going to be on some BS the entire season. They're going to be coming in with some hard fouls and everything else. It's just like, it's a great personality pairing and a style of play. And what people don't really understand is like, oh, ball's got a great basketball IQ for a point guard. He might be a little janky. He might be

a little tough to reel in as a head coach, but he's got a great IQ. You pair him with a guy MVP caliber player like Anthony Edwards. I think they're going to be really good. All right. We're going to have Tom Haberstrow in a second. We didn't get I do not have enough time. We'll do it later in the week. Tracy

Wilson and Josh Allen. Sorry. And we didn't get to the biggest baseball story of the day. While we were trying to piss off the audience. What is the biggest baseball story of the day here?

Aaron Boone is returning. It's just beat me down to a point where I really don't even care. Like running back Yankees bird joke. Aaron Boone's 27 and 30 right post season at Yankee manager. We know how next season's going. We're going to win 90 plus games. Probably coming second in the division to

somebody and then we'll get embarrassed on our way out of the playoffs and he'll be back. But I have good news. Okay. Put a smile on your face. The next are raising a banner tonight.

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in front of Haberstro and that entire team. How'd you get that gig, Tom? That's a pretty good gig. I mean, yeah, I talked to Anthony Simons and Jabari Walker because I've been doing the Blazers broadcast last three years. Yes. And so Caleb Love, I don't know if that name rings a bell. I know Taylor

remembers Caleb Love and Ryan Rupare. They're all former Blazers. So it has nothing to do with LeBron coming. I've got to do with the Blazer. What do you imagine the scene is going to be like tonight at Madison Square Garden as a nicks raise a banner? Well, I think this is like the fourth or fifth

time that LeBron James has been at a jersey or not a jersey time, a ring ceremony. I don't, I think a ticket right now or like the get in price is $1,200 or something like that. Might be the most expensive ticket in Madison Square Garden, Nick's history. So it's going to be nuts. And considering that Jalen Brown is going to be there, LeBron James and Bead, all of these guys are nicks rivals over the years. And so I expect that it's just going to be insane. I wanted to ask you in terms of fit,

right? Because we saw him with Luca and Luca without the ball is useless. It's like cereal without milk. But with these other guys, Jalen Brown, Tyree Smaxi, Edgecombe, they can't play or maybe more used to playing off the ball. But is there one of those guys that you think might sort of disappear a little bit more often than the other? Maxi maybe probably not Jalen Brown given his motivation.

Well, you guys remember this when the heat started nine and eight that first season, it felt like the sky was falling and Dwayne Wade and LeBron James had a hard time with figuring out the touches. Like they were talking about taking turns and how awkward that was. And they didn't want to step on each other's toes. They wanted to like, you know, come out and have the best for each of them. But it still was a no pun intended a process for them to figure this out.

And that was not a fast team. They didn't play up tempo in ways that I think Nick Nurse wants this team to play. And that will sort itself out. If you're playing in the open court of the four top guys last season in fast break points per game, number one was Janis Andadakupo in fast break points per game. And he's in Miami. The next three names on that list are in Philly. Jalen Brown,

Tyree Smaxi and LeBron James. So if they get slowed down in the half court, I think you might see guys feel like I didn't get the touch there. I didn't get the ball there at the last at the end of the shot clock. But I think this team wants to play up tempo. And part of that might be just getting out ahead of the whole ego usage rate, your turn, my turn thing, because once they get out in the open court and they have the second highest transition percentage in the preseason, they want to run. And with LeBron, that was different in LA. I don't think Luke Adanchich wanted to run.

But I think Tyree Smaxi and Vijay Edgecombe and Jalen Brown, I think they all want to run. And we'll see how long they can sustain that because it's going to be a long season. And we know in Miami, man, when you get all those stars together, it's going to be hard to maintain a top five pace. But Eric Spolscher did it with pace and space. And the other night, I was there, LeBron James dropped a little pace in space and how he wants this team to play.

A little bit of a two-parter here with Joellen B. It's like, obviously, difficult to predict health and injuries, et cetera, except for Joellen B. You can pretty much predict that he's going to miss a decent amount of time. Anthony Davis, that's the easiest one. But if you were to sort of find, let's just assume relative health for these guys. Is there a weak spot? Is there is it depth?

Is it something there that you say, hey, this could be there Achilles if it doesn't seem to come together? Well, speaking of Achilles, I don't know if you said that on purpose, but Ariel Hock-Porty towards Achilles in the preseason, the backup center for Joellen B. And unfortunately, that's going to be a hole for the roster. Anytime you lose your backup center in preseason, that's going to be a hit. But also when you got a guy like Joellen B. Who I think for this team to maximize their

championship window here is he's got to be healthy. And the big thing out of training camp is he's lost a lot of weight. And Tim Duncan used to preach this is as you get older, and it's tough for all of us. I mean, I'm not speaking for Stu Gads because he's in tip-top shape. Of course, yes.

We got to slim down and take some of that weight off of our joints. And B. has done that. So far, so good. And he's looked healthy. He dunked in the scrimmage that exhibition, scrimmage in

front of fans and the season ticket holders. And he said afterwards, that's the last dunk of the season. I'm not dunking anymore. And then on Friday, he dunked again and surprised himself that he was possessed. So the guy the guy wants to get after it. He wants to play. He wants to play

above the rim. But I think he's, you know, this injury to Ariel Hock-Porty is really unfortunate because I think he was going to have a breakout season out of New York last year winning the championship. And he was going to have a big opportunity. So a Dembona, Jabari Walker, Dean Wade, and LeBron James are going to have to play a lot bigger now that Hock-Porty has heard. But that certainly, no team wants to have a player suffer an Achilles injury like that. But certainly with the

76ers, they're going to have to adjust. So, you know, part of the issue with the Sixers and everybody else in the Eastern Conference is going to be the conference's depth. And that's, you know, there's pretty much no easy games. It feels like throughout the season, or at least, you know, looking at it early on, you mentioned Janis and Miami in the preseason, their pace was even greater than it was last season. It seems like they're going to play super fast. You mentioned Janis's fast break points

last season. That's what potentially worries me about the heat. Not so much like early on the season, maybe a couple injuries because that's hard to maintain, but just maintaining that throughout the season. What do you think about Miami's look, Miami's sort of roster makeup, and whether they can sort of maintain a high level of success throughout the year? Yeah, it's easier said than done. Look, every coach in the preseason, they always say the cliche, like, yeah, we want to play fast

this year. We want to play with a high pace. And ultimately, it's like Mike Tyson wants everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. It's kind of how I feel about teams in the NBA when they say they want to play fast. All right. Well, let's talk in January. And I asked Nick Nurse the

same question is like, how do you implement like the habits in preseason training camp to sustain high pace and uptempo playing style throughout the season? He said, yes, it's definitely a challenge. But with this group, LeBron James loves to play in the open court, get the kick head passes. And I think the same thing for suppose guys is a lot of those guys love playing uptempo basketball and Davion Mitchell, if you see it right now, Yahoo Sports where I write and do podcasts with, I picked Davion Mitchell as my most improved player of the year because I think this style of play next to the Yannas, he's gonna get a lot of open looks. He slimmed down like him. Beat, I talked to

his shooting coach Brandon Payne, who is the shooting coach of Staff and Curry. If you're getting by the way, maybe on that. Yeah. Well, staff or the coach. Yeah. And he said, the heat were pretty

direct in the exit interviews last year for Davion Mitchell is they wanted him to get in better conditioning, lose some weight, work on the diet, and he did it right away. And he looks a lot thinner, a lot faster in the open court. And I think in this system, you're gonna see Davion Mitchell, I think, gonna take a big step forward because Clay Thompson loves the open court. Like, that's really hard to pick up Clay Thompson in the open court when you're running back in transition, trying to stop Yannas and the Koopo and the freight train that he is. I think a lot of those guys are gonna love playing in an uptempo style. It's just when they have aspirations to win in a championship,

you know, guys like Clay Thompson, Tim Hardaway Jr, Yannas and Koopo, they've had championship aspirations and hopefully they're able to maintain that pace throughout the season in the playoffs. Tom, is he had a hot take a week or so ago about the Boston Celtics? He thinks at best they're a play in team. Do you agree? I don't. I think the Celtics are gonna be good, man. I think

Tatum's gonna be the MVP. How about that? There's my hot take, Tatum MVP. Oh, I thought he said Peyton, like Peyton Prichard. I was like, not that. Although I do have Hugo Gonzalez,

MIP. Now you've got two four. That kid and I say, because at least 20 now, he might be still 19, Hugo Gonzalez. He's good. He dropped 21 against the 76ers on Friday. He looks good. I mean,

that travel was veteran level travel that he had in that case. That's insane. So you think that something's gonna be really good? You think they're gonna be good? I think they're gonna be really good. I think the Peyton Prichard breakout season's gonna happen.

I think he might be an all star this year. I'm not gonna say MVP like with Tatum, but I think the Boston Celtics, the way that they play and Mitchell Robinson is gonna be awesome for them. They do this thing called the possession game where they want to get as many possessions as possible, get as many shots up as possible. It's why they like to take early shots and not turn over the ball because they really value those possessions. I think Mitchell Robinson is gonna be huge for them. And I wouldn't be surprised if they want to ease this year in the regular season.

Just a question of whether they're gonna miss that star power in the postseason next to Jason Tatum because it's gonna be, man, I have like Tom title tiers every week on my sub stack. Yes. I have six teams. Wow. Six East teams at the four star tier. I've got OKC and San Antonio

at the top. Right. And then all in that second tier, I've got six East teams. It's just, I don't know how this is gonna shake out. It's gonna be a ridiculous season and that NBA draft reform.

People aren't talking about enough. The fact that they're penalizing the bottom three teams, they're gonna fewer chances of getting a top pick in the draft. Love that. Every night this year in the NBA, more than we've seen since covering the league, every night is gonna be a battle because there aren't gonna be teams trying to lose this year in ways that they have in the past. Well, here's here's my thing with the Celtics. I was, yes, I agree with you. One of those guys,

I don't have a house or a grandzala as a pitcher. One of those guys is gonna have to take a huge leap because, hey, I don't think Paul George is gonna be there for 70 plus games. And I feel like paying preachers already had his breakout. Like, I think he's bumping up against his ceiling a little bit. And then you throw in the fact that maybe Mitchell Robinson doesn't play a bunch of games as he normally doesn't that their problem. And, you know, Jason Tatum, who knows what kind of

recovery you're gonna be talking about over a full season. To me, again, in a very deep Eastern conference, you can shoot the three as much as you want and try to get as many as possessions. But you need somebody to be consistently there for you. And I just don't know who it's gonna be behind Jason Tatum. I mean, we need to talk about Indiana, Toronto. I mean, it's gonna be one of those

teams, those seven teams in the East is probably gonna miss the playoffs. So it does feel like, right now we all want to say, hey, East champion contender at Boston Celtics, Toronto, I could see what happening. But just as a matter of pure math that there's only eight teams that can make it out of the into the playoffs for the East, one of those seven, there's a pretty good chance that they'll fall out of the playoff picture. So like, I understand why one of those teams might have a down year and just completely fall out. The Celtics, though, I just, I mean, Derek White could be that guy.

You're shooting over the back. He's gonna step up. But he has, he lost his three points shot. You might have gotten a little yips last year and just could not figure out his three points. But man, if he gets that shot back, you're gonna see an all-star season out of Derek White. Yeah, I love that,

dude. But yeah, his shooting last year and a half hasn't been great. You mentioned the Pacers. I, you know, contend that there's nobody more motivated than Tyre's Halliburton given the last time we saw him play. He was, you know, 30 minutes from an NBA title, right? And then he hurts as a kill. And

now here he is with a team that might be better than that squad. At least a better fit, a couple of good additions. What do you think about the Pacers and their chances to be, you know, that surprise top four seed in the East? V.S. Zubots addition to. So Miles Turner was kind of like a shop locking

spacer. But Zubots is a whole different. He's a great defender, a guy who's super skilled, good passer, rebounder, just a big body. He's gonna get a ton of putbacks. He's actually in this preseason.

Tyre's Halliburton's number one assist target. Like Zubots is fitting him very well. Got acquired at the deadline last season for Benedict Matherin with the Clippers. And that was a big, big trade because not only did they lose a top five pick by making that deal for Zubots, they are going to use him a lot with with Tyre's Halliburton as a great defender and pick and roll partner. I think how he's going to love playing with that guy. And I also think that man Pascal Siakam,

Nysmith, Nemhard, they are so excited to be trying to win again because they played so well two years ago in the postseason. And I mean, if they made it back to the NBA finals, would any of us be surprised given what they did two years ago and just blowing the doors off the Eastern Conference? Taylor would be. Yeah, me and Taylor. I mean, we have the next going 82.

Back to back. Start tonight. You know, they have the worst. This is this is me geeking out. They had the worst point differential in the preseason. No, preseason.

It's it's I don't know if the currently have any town stuff. I don't know if winning a championship stuff. It's me heart not getting his extension. I'm just saying, who's Mitchell Robinson and having the worst defense in the defense? Not right. Sorry. You know what?

It doesn't matter. Once that banner goes up to Madison Square Garden tonight, no one's going to care about preseason that rare. If Tyler Nichols playing in the game, Tom, I'm not worried about that game. No offense to Tyler. You offended him.

Tom, who's the team in the NBA that no one's talking about that we should be talking about more? Okay, this is super deep cup with the Memphis Grizzlies. They're going to be really good this year. Yeah, really. Cam Booser is the best in the best prospect in the class.

Caleb Wilson had an amazing summer league, have high hopes for him. A.J. DeBonta, a stud from BYU, can get to the cup. Great shooter. Don't know about his three-point shot, translating yet. Unfortunately, he had an ankle injury.

Derip Peterson, awesome. Two-guard potential. Bradley Beale type. That's a Florida guy there. Is he?

Yeah, not my favorite. I think those guys are good. But Cam Booser is the real deal. Tied Jerome. Zack Ead, your not household names in the NBA yet.

I mean, of course Zack Ead, your Purdue was a household name. But I think this Memphis Grizzlies team is going to be a winning team in the Western Conference. And they're going to be the sleeper. I had in my title tiers that they are all my title tiers as a one-star title contender. Might be a little too early guys, but I was early on OKC.

Mentioned them as a title contender before they made a leap. And same with the San Antonio Spurs and Memphis Grizzlies are my pick. Get on the bandwagon now guys. I'm on the chin. And as bandwagon, Tom.

I know they're good. Will Hardy, Larry Markinen, Jared Jackson Jr. And Cam Booser gets that extension. They're all offense is going to be awesome. There's no doubt about it.

It's just they've been the worst defense in the last three years in the NBA and breaking records doing that. So can they play good enough defense to win 45 games in the Western Conference? Remains to be seen. All right, Tom. Get out of here.

Enjoy the season. Enjoy tonight. I know the helicopter is waiting. We will have you on in a couple of weeks to talk about Wake Forest. OK?

Oh, yeah. How's football playoff? Here we come. What's your name? Hey, Joy tonight, man.

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I mean how many steps would you say is equivalent to a leap like I said Hugo Gonzalez takes a step right? It's not as good as saying Hugo Gonzalez takes a leap No, you're right I say Hugo Gonzalez took ten steps this year does ten steps some as a leap I just think you need three steps equal one leap right well no three big steps though. Yeah, I mean I instep you need a little bit of a running starts So one step two step triple jump there you go. Yeah, what was your question is ten steps a leap ten steps is too many Ten steps is smaller than a leap right or bigger than a leap. Yeah, well no, but it's ten small steps I think is he saying three big steps with a jump? I never said they were small step. Oh, okay just ten steps

Just ten steps okay put it on the pole does ten steps equal a leap Ridiculous question there are so many great sports documentaries on right now that I want to see that I haven't had the chance to see because I'm watching games all the time the college football Saturday was as good as it gets I want to watch the saben and I want to see the Tyson documentary. Have you seen either is he I have no interest in watching the saben Commercials make me want to change a channel, but the Tyson one I am you know two and a half episodes in I keep watching them at night and falling asleep Not that it's not good. It's very good right and one of the things about this why you're asking But I'm gonna say it anyway one of the things that make me that just I just yelled out loud to my TV because I didn't know this I don't know if everybody knew this but when Mike Tyson lost to Buster Douglas in Tokyo The night before the fight Bobby Brown Mike Tyson's friend Yeah, I had a concert right Bobby Brown and Mike Tyson party according to Bobby Brown like maniacs the night before because Mike Tyson didn't think he would even Have a chance at losing to Buster Douglas right and of course famously he did lose the Buster Douglas his first loss shocking keep Bobby Brown the hell away from our

Famous people the people we love he's clear. I mean a lot of people blame to him for Whitney Houston's demise It's about everyone in yeah, and we saw so unfortunately what happened to her and then you know the Buster Douglas loss You could argue that Mike Tyson was on his way to a downfall regardless because he was a little bit too inflated of an ego But man that is far too much of a coincidence Yes, I keep Bobby Brown the heck away from our biggest stars because nothing good is ever gonna happen Taylor put it on the pole do we need to keep Bobby Brown away from our biggest stars Like multiple arms distance keep that guy away. Yes. I remember that it was so it was jarring because Tyson I don't care how late he was out. I don't care if you didn't sleep for seven days I still expected him to beat Buster Douglas and do it rather quickly and we woke up in the morning To find out that Mike Tyson who was deemed as unbeatable at the time Was beaten by an inferior opponent and James Busta. Well, I guess he was defeated by Bobby Brown

The interesting part to that I didn't remember this either was that Buster Douglas's mom had passed away Maybe a week or two before the fight so you have like completely dueling levels of motivation one is just like I don't care I'm doing a bunch of drugs and hanging out around and the other one wanting to do it for his deceased mother And so you know that outcome seemed like it was the fitting one But in terms of the documentary overall it really is fantastic because you see Mike Tyson for who he is today and right now And he's just so sort of introspective Like his emotions come out when he doesn't want them to even and he's asking you know the cameraman to stop the camera and it's like a good document Terry he did not stop the camera and you see a lot of things just coming out of Mike that you never would have expected to see and Again, I'm not even all the way through this thing and it's just it's really really good. Uh Taylor put it on the pole Who beat Mike Tyson that night Buster Douglas or Bobby Brown You could just see that But keep him away Before we get out of here a bit of fun show is he thanks for coming in again working more weekends getting shorter We appreciate it but quickly here because he's been walking around monitoring during commercial breaks about Mario Christoball and his four fingers

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It's sad to even say it those words coming out of my mouth don't even feel right feels like i'm cursing at my mother saying those words What happened? I got to what you have each again. You saw how serious he was when he was on the college football show with us He is he's locked in he's dialed in it was more so in the first couple years how much he struggled at Miami I was like, oh, yeah, look at this guy. He's got his work cut out for and then he started recruiting his guys and building along the Office and defensive lines. I'm like, oh, Miami might have a monster. He might be a good coach, but he is a just a terrible personality

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