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Jan 13, 2018 11 min

Hour 2, Segment 3 - Spencer Fernando

from The Roy Green Show Hosted by Global News / Curiouscast

After a protest in St. Catharines against the Trudeau’s government’s stance on reintegrating former members of ISIS, Liberal MP Chris Bittle posted on Facebook, calling the protesters “white supremacists.” Is this a fair assessment or does it ignore the wishes of the majority of Canadians, who are against ISIS reintegration? Guest: Spencer Fernando, Social Media commentator at spencerfernando.com, who wrote on the subject in “CRAZY: Liberal MP Equates Criticism of ‘ISIS Reintegration’ with White Supremacy​(Photo: Tara Walton/The Canadian Press)

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Transparent, honest government. Thank you, Cody. I remember something about that transparent government we were supposed to have. So I was reading, and I'd like to keep up with what Spencer Fernando writes.

It's pretty good. And social network commentator. And he wrote on SpencerFernando.com, here's the headline, Crazy. Liberal MP equates criticism of ISIS reintegration with white supremacy.

Spencer Fernando joins us on the Roy Green Show. Spencer, great to have you join us. I like to say I enjoy your pieces. And tell us the story about what happened as far as Chris Biddle, the Ontario Liberal MP, is concerned when it was a protest at his office.

Well, it's very good to be here. Thanks for having me. So there was a group of Canadians, not too many, I think, like, looks like about five or six, protested outside his office. They had signs saying, Patriots on guard against Trudeau and jail ISIS fighters.

So they were there to protest the idea that the Trudeau government wants to reintegrate ISIS fighters instead of jailing them or kicking them out of the country. And so he went on Facebook after that. And he wrote, it is shouting to me that in 2018, white supremacists would stand up in public in St. Catherine's to promote their hateful racist views.

So he's equating people saying they're against the government's ISIS policy with being white supremacists. That's just, that's beyond bizarre. That is absolutely beyond bizarre. When you consider that the Americans, the French, the Australians, and the Brits ordered their special forces units to hunt down and kill any ISIS members who are also citizens of those countries, hunt them down and kill them before they could return home.

Here you have everyday people standing outside the Member of Parliament's constituency office in St. Catherine's, protesting the fact that Mr. Trudeau believes that the ISIS terrorists could deliver some, quote, extraordinary, end quote, benefits to Canada. And they become, what was it again?

White supremacists. Again, what's amazing about that is that they've done a few polls on what Canadians think, and over two-thirds of people don't agree with the government thinking that ISIS fighters can be reintegrated. What's amazing is Ralph Rale, the public safety minister, has even said the possibility of reintegrating these people is remote. So you've got an MP basically saying that the majority view of Canadians is equal to white supremacy.

You cover a lot of political issues, and you do so succinctly, and you also have the longer pieces that you write. Did this, within the overall context of what you cover, what you'll pay attention to, did this surprise you that a Member of Parliament would actually, regardless of the party, regardless of, well, not regardless of the circumstance, but given the circumstance, would accuse the people who were protesting outside his office as white supremacists, promoting their hateful racist views? You know, it's somewhat surprising to see an MP do that, but it's not really surprising in the context of the Trudeau government overall. I think it was about a day after the guy in Edmonton, who he ran over a police officer, then stabbed a police officer, and then tried to run over four other people, had a ISIS wagon in his car.

So the day after that happened, Justin Trudeau didn't say anything about radical Islamism or terrorism or anything, but he did say, he did share on Facebook a post about fighting white supremacy. So it seems like there's a bit of an epic on behalf of the government, where when something happens with radical Islam, they try to ignore it and then shift the discussion to white supremacy instead. So, you know, it may have been just a weird thing that he said, but it seems like there's a bit of a pattern there. And by the way, Abdullah Hassan Sharif, the individual we're talking about in Edmonton, has been found fit to stand trial.

So we'll see what happens there. I wonder if somebody's going to push for a not criminally responsible case. We'll see what happens. What have you heard from your readers?

Yeah, people are pretty upset about it. You know, the idea that instead of listening to people, I mean, even if he disagreed with their position, he could have gone up there and talked to them, or he could have had a debate with them. He could have been somewhat respectful. And I think it knows that people have legitimate concerns.

I mean, look what happens in Europe with terrorism there. I don't think people want to see that happening in Canada. So I think people are angry. He didn't even care enough to listen to them, to respect the fact that these are Canadian citizens sharing their views.

He just went for the biggest insult he could use against them. And it's a way to try to scare people in silence debate. I mean, it's interesting you say that, because as you were saying, it's the way to scare people. I was thinking the same thing, intimidation tactic.

Nothing less. Also, it's concerning when it comes from the government, too, because the government here has a lot of power, and Canada does have hate speech laws. So, you know, we have a fair amount of free speech, but a lot of politicians, I think what they want to do is they want to make any criticism. We've been discussing the route with one.

They want to say, oh, that's islamophobia. That's hate speech. You can't say that. You can't do that.

And just silence any discussion about it. And it seems like that's kind of where the government's shifting towards. No, I don't disagree. Now, it's interesting also, Justin Trudeau was allowing terrorists back into Canada.

People who left this country in violation of the court, but it doesn't seem Mr. Trudeau, is interested in pursuing a jail sentence. But if they were taken to court and found guilty of joining a terrorist organization overseas, they would be in violation of the criminal court of Canada and would go to prison. So we have Mr.

Trudeau allowing the ISIS terrorists to return to Canada. His father, Pierre Trudeau, in 1970, allowed FLQ terrorists who were engaged in bombing, kidnapping, and murder in Quebec. He allowed them to leave and go to Cuba. During defending our citizens, Trudeau, just like his father, is very sympathetic to people who have an anti-Canadian view, an anti-Western civilization worldview.

And I noticed that with a few things, not just with terrorism or radical Islamism, but also in the way Trudeau approaches China. He seems to have some sort of strange affinity for anti-Western, anti-Canadian governments, governments that don't believe in free speech, don't believe in equal rights, don't believe in any of the things we believe in as Canadians. And it seems to leak out all the time. And yet we hear that when the free trade or the trade deal was on the table with China, he lectured the Chinese on human rights issues.

Yeah, I mean, that's what he says, but it's not working out too well. No, no, you can't push and pull at the same time. Spencer, thank you so much. It's good talking to you, and I do enjoy reading your tweets and reading your posts.

Really enjoy them. I appreciate that, thank you. All the best. Spencer Fernando on The Roy Green Show, on the Chorus Radio Network, spencerfernando.com.

My number is 800-263-24-28, 1-800-263-24-28. So you heard the Prime Minister of Canada talking about Omar Khotar and why he's angry that he had to pay the $10.5 million on behalf of all of us to Khotar, who had the $20 million lawsuit underway. Well, he didn't have to pay it at all. There was no need.

It was before the courts. And when he talks about it, it could have been $40, $30, $40, or $50 million, the lawsuit was for $20 million. But why not let the courts handle it? Why not let the courts handle it, Mr.

Trudeau? And why was it done in secret? As Cody pointed out in his email. Why was it done secretly?

Why were we not supposed to find out? Why did the government get angry when we found out that they'd written Khotar a check for $10.5 million? And why was the check given to Khotar, the money given to Khotar, so he could deposit it in his account, yes, before Tabitha Spear, the widow of the American army medic Khotar killed with a grenade, could launch the suit in and could try to attach the money in Canada? So Trudeau had it in his account, and Tabitha Spear and Lane Morris, who was on the air with us, the sergeant in that American platoon who lost his eye to that grenade, they weren't able to try to stop the money from going into Khotar's account.

There were a lot of questions to be answered. And then there's the meeting with Joshua Boyle, but that's another story for another day. We will come back and take more of your calls at 800-263-2428, your reaction to what you've heard, your reaction to the Prime Minister's tour of Canada, the Hi-It's Me Again tour. And then at the top of the next hour, the Conservative Party of Canada leader Andrew Scheer will be my guest.

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