How a Person Becomes a Therapist

With the demand for excellent mental health care at its all time peak, it’s a good thing people like Tracy Defina dared to go back to school — for many years — to get a PhD in counseling. This is the story of how she pulled off this enormous achievement in the middle of life already teeming with to dos. My conversation with Tracy is the first of a 4-part series called How’d You Do That? with women who made radical changes to their lives well after most of their peers had settled into a given way of life. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices