EPISODE · Oct 8, 2025 · 47 MIN
How a Startup CEO Uses AI to Help Brands Stay Visible in the Age of AI Search
from How I AI · host Brooke Gramer
I sit down with Jonathan Mest, a data scientist turned startup CEO who’s helping brands understand what visibility means in a world run by AI search.Jon is the founder of Just Reach Out, a digital PR platform that helps businesses pitch the media and earn organic coverage, and ChatRank, a new tool that tracks how your brand shows up across AI models like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Google’s AI Overviews.We trace the evolution of search from Ask Jeeves and AltaVista to the era of conversational agents, where the algorithms deciding what people see are no longer just search engines.. they’re language models. Jon shares how AI is reshaping SEO, what it takes to stay relevant when content discovery is automated, and what it really means to “rank” in an AI-first world.🔥 Topics We Cover: • The evolution of search from Ask Jeeves and AltaVista to ChatGPT • What “ranking” means inside AI models and answer engines • How ChatRank helps brands measure their presence in AI systems • How PR, SEO, and AI search are converging • What businesses can do today to remain visible as search becomes conversationalTools Mentioned in This Episode:AI Search & Discovery ChatGPT, Perplexity, GeminiSearch & Visibility Tracking Google, ChatRank.ai, SEMrush, HFS ResearchPR & Outreach JustReachOut.ioInnovation & Legacy Tools Bolt.new, Ask Jeeves, AltaVistaConnect with Jon: JustReachOut.io ChatRank.ai Ready to cut through the AI overwhelm?Explore all my resources in one place → https://stan.store/BRXSTUDIOFree AI Guide • 45-Minute AI Audit • AI Community • Custom GPTStep into The Collective’s 7-Day Free Trial and unlock instant access to our AI Mastery Challenge, a vault of high-level trainings, and recordings from our most mind-shifting webinars.How I AI is now The AI Movement Podcast.LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only, not legal, financial, medical, business, technical, or other professional advice. Guest views are their own. Information may change, and accuracy, safety, or results are not guaranteed. Verify information and consult a qualified professional before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, The AI Movement, Brooke Gramer, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.
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I sit down with Jonathan Mest, a data scientist turned startup CEO who’s helping brands understand what visibility means in a world run by AI search. Jon is the founder of Just Reach Out, a digital PR platform that helps businesses pitch the media and earn organic coverage, and ChatRank, a new tool that tracks how your brand shows up across AI models like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Google’s AI Overviews. We trace the evolution of search from Ask Jeeves and AltaVista to the era of conversational age...
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