How and what can we learn from the past and present? The Ignorance Podcast Episode 4 with Paul Lerner episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 5, 2025 · 50 MIN

How and what can we learn from the past and present? The Ignorance Podcast Episode 4 with Paul Lerner

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Join Mayla Boguslav as she interviews this episode’s guest Paul Lerner who is asking what did the world look like in different historical moments and how profoundly different the past was from the present but also how similar it was?Follow Mayla Boguslav:Bluesky: @drmaylab.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/drmaylab.bsky.social LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayla-boguslav-phd-30402239ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mayla-BoguslavFollow this episode’s guest Paul Lerner:Bluesky: @plerner.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/plerner.bsky.socialCitations mentioned in this episode:Plato. The Apology of Plato. The Clarendon press, 1867.Sigmund Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents (1929). Freud took the concept of “oceanic feeling” from his friend Romain Rolland who described it in a 1927 letter to Freud.Re:Thinking with Adam Grant: https://adamgrant.net/podcasts/rethinking/Definition of fascism disagreement: https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/what-was-the-fascism-debate/ Mayla R. Boguslav (2023). Revealing and Exploring the Literature’s Known Unknowns: Ignorance and How It Drives Science (Doctoral dissertation, University of Colorado Denver, Anschutz Medical Campus).People:Students(Isadore) Jack Lerner (Paul’s Father), 1930-2024 Karl Joachim (Jock) Weintraub, 1924-2004. Thomas E. Donnelley Distinguished Service Professor Emeritus in History at the University of Chicago, also taught in the Committee on Social Thought, the Committee on the History of Culture, the Humanities Division and the CollegeSocrates (ca. 470 BCE - 399 BCE), foundational Greek philosopher.Leora Auslander, Arthur and Joann Rasmussen Professor in the Departments of Race, Diaspora, and Indigeneity and History, The University of ChicagoFriedrich (Fred) Hacker (1914-1989), Vienna-born psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, who practiced mostly in Los Angeles and specialized in the psychology of violence and terror. Michel Foucault (1926-1984), French Historian and Philosopher of ScienceBruno Latour (1947-2022), French Philosopher, Anthropologist, and SociologistThomas Kuhn (1922-1996), Historian and Philosopher of ScienceTranscript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fQvIUHYR1d3sXf07j3gGEhfScvpvEuS4xnErnmGK_Mo/edit?usp=sharing Producer & editor:Joshua Mendel and Mayla BoguslavBluesky: @jbmendel.bsky.socialQuestions, comments, want to get in touch?Email [email protected]:Curious by Ron Gelinas Chill Beats | https://open.spotify.com/artist/03JYfsI9Ke7JFuxHD239m2Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com#NewWayToCommunicateScience#IgnoranceIsBliss#RebuildingTrustInResearch

Join Mayla Boguslav as she interviews this episode’s guest Paul Lerner who is asking what did the world look like in different historical moments and how profoundly different the past was from the present but also how similar it was?Follow Mayla Boguslav:Bluesky: @drmaylab.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/drmaylab.bsky.social LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayla-boguslav-phd-30402239ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mayla-BoguslavFollow this episode’s guest Paul Lerner:Bluesky: @plerner.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/plerner.bsky.socialCitations mentioned in this episode:Plato. The Apology of Plato. The Clarendon press, 1867.Sigmund Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents (1929). Freud took the concept of “oceanic feeling” from his friend Romain Rolland who described it in a 1927 letter to Freud.Re:Thinking with Adam Grant: https://adamgrant.net/podcasts/rethinking/Definition of fascism disagreement: https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/what-was-the-fascism-debate/ Mayla R. Boguslav (2023). Revealing and Exploring the Literature’s Known Unknowns: Ignorance and How It Drives Science (Doctoral dissertation, University of Colorado Denver, Anschutz Medical Campus).People:Students(Isadore) Jack Lerner (Paul’s Father), 1930-2024 Karl Joachim (Jock) Weintraub, 1924-2004. Thomas E. Donnelley Distinguished Service Professor Emeritus in History at the University of Chicago, also taught in the Committee on Social Thought, the Committee on the History of Culture, the Humanities Division and the CollegeSocrates (ca. 470 BCE - 399 BCE), foundational Greek philosopher.Leora Auslander, Arthur and Joann Rasmussen Professor in the Departments of Race, Diaspora, and Indigeneity and History, The University of ChicagoFriedrich (Fred) Hacker (1914-1989), Vienna-born psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, who practiced mostly in Los Angeles and specialized in the psychology of violence and terror. Michel Foucault (1926-1984), French Historian and Philosopher of ScienceBruno Latour (1947-2022), French Philosopher, Anthropologist, and SociologistThomas Kuhn (1922-1996), Historian and Philosopher of ScienceTranscript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fQvIUHYR1d3sXf07j3gGEhfScvpvEuS4xnErnmGK_Mo/edit?usp=sharing Producer & editor:Joshua Mendel and Mayla BoguslavBluesky: @jbmendel.bsky.socialQuestions, comments, want to get in touch?Email [email protected]:Curious by Ron Gelinas Chill Beats | https://open.spotify.com/artist/03JYfsI9Ke7JFuxHD239m2Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com#NewWayToCommunicateScience#IgnoranceIsBliss#RebuildingTrustInResearch

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