How Boards Make Smart Choices When Nothing Is Certain with Thomas Zimmerer

This episode explores how boards and leaders can make smart, bold decisions in uncertain times. Thomas Zimmerer shares practical advice on embracing uncertainty, leveraging data and AI, and ensuring strong ownership. Real-world examples and actionable tips make it valuable for anyone facing fast-changing business environments. About the guest Thomas Zimmerer is a board member and AI & digital board advisor, working with Boards of Directors and supervisory boards on decision-making, governance, and long-term value creation under uncertainty. He brings global experience as CEO, CIO, COO and CDO across industrial, technology, and regulated environments in Europe and the Middle East, and serves on supervisory and advisory boards. His work focuses on how boards govern business models, risk, and strategic direction as AI reshapes decision environments. Thomas is a published author and regular contributor to German governance and risk-management journals, including Der Aufsichtsrat and the Zeitschrift für Risikomanagement. Relevant links https://www.aiizationboard.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaszimmerer/ Key Take-Aways Make uncertainty explicit: Put unknowns and assumptions on the table to improve clarity and decision quality. Leverage existing data and AI: Use current tools and data to run scenarios and support faster, smarter decisions. Ensure strong ownership: Assign clear responsibility for decisions, including both success and failure. Chapters 0:00 - Intro 0:35 - Navigating Decision-Making in Uncertainty 1:34 - Vision and Focus Amid VUCA Challenges 3:20 - Understanding Decision-Making Under Uncertainty 3:55 - Explicitly Addressing Unknowns in Decision-Making 5:58 - Leveraging Technology and Data for Decisions 9:32 - Utilizing Existing Tools for Effective Decision-Making 11:36 - Ownership and Accountability in Board Decisions 17:39 - Embracing Risk and Learning from Decisions 20:34 - Case Study: Bold Investments in AI 24:58 - Learning from Unsuccessful Decisions 28:19 - Final Insights on Uncertainty and Leadership 30:40 - Conclusion and Audience Engagement Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify About the host: Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation. Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/