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EPISODE · Oct 3, 2025 · 1H 3M

How Both Sides Explain the Shutdown

from Point Taken with Steve Scaffidi & Kristin Brey

Kristin Brey was joined by strategists Joe Zepecki and Bill McCoshen to break down the ongoing government shutdown, the partisan budget stalemate in Congress, and President Trump and Pete Hegseth’s military “rally.” They also tackled Trump’s new “war on drugs” and wrapped the first hour with thoughts on the federal government’s gridlock. In the second hour, the group turned local, digging into Wisconsin’s governor’s race with Missy Hughes entering, Bill Berrien dropping out, and Tom Tiffany gaining momentum. They shared their “Say Something Nice” shoutouts, Grab Bag highlights from baseball to Oktoberfest, and Kristin and Joe closed with a discussion on how Democrats can broaden their base—ending with a thoughtful quote from the late Dr. Jane Goodall.

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