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EPISODE · Jun 19, 2026 · 1H 52M

How Culture Evolves (and Why Civilizations Collapse) – Dr. Liane Gabora, DemystifySci +426

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This week, we head to the woods. UBC professor of psychology Liane Gabora walks us through the deep tension between creativity and conformity that runs through every institution humans have ever built. Her work on cultural evolution reveals something Darwin never touched: ideas don't survive by competition, they survive by transformation, by honing, by the slow and sacred work of making something raw into something real. We ask why civilizations keep building towers they can't sustain, why originality is worshipped in the past tense and punished in the present, and whether the internet might finally give us the collective memory to stop repeating the oldest mistakes. This is a conversation about what creativity costs, who pays for it, and why the system would rather you just kept quiet.PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysciPARADOX LOST PRE-SALE: https://buy.stripe.com/7sY7sKdoN5d29eUdYddEs0bHOMEBREW MUSIC - Check out our new album!Hard Copies (Vinyl): FREE SHIPPING https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/products/vinyl-lp-secretary-of-nature-everything-is-so-good-hereStreaming:https://secretaryofnature.bandcamp.com/album/everything-is-so-good-herePARADIGM DRIFThttps://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show00:00 Go! 00:04:22 Creativity and Conformity in Tension00:06:49 Bronze Age Collapse and the Cost of Innovation00:13:21 Why Civilizations Keep Destroying Themselves00:25:04 Can Better Thinking Be Taught?00:28:03 Light as a Model for Thought00:50:54 New Ideas Need Protection to Survive00:58:14 Cultural Evolution Is Not Darwinian01:07:42 Why Good Ideas Lose to Bad Systems01:13:03 Why Physics Punishes Originality01:27:24 How to Tell a Breakthrough From a Bad Idea01:42:52 Would Aliens Have Rock and Roll?01:49:19 Creativity as Expanding What's Possible#creativity #physics #conformity #culturalevolution #innovation #philosophy #naturalphilosophy #consciousness #evolution #psychologyMERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98DONATE: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaDSUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rssMAILING LIST: https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/- Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySciMUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

This week, we head to the woods. UBC professor of psychology Liane Gabora walks us through the deep tension between creativity and conformity that runs through every institution humans have ever built. Her work on cultural evolution reveals something Darwin never touched: ideas don't survive by competition, they survive by transformation, by honing, by the slow and sacred work of making something raw into something real. We ask why civilizations keep building towers they can't sustain, why originality is worshipped in the past tense and punished in the present, and whether the internet might finally give us the collective memory to stop repeating the oldest mistakes. This is a conversation about what creativity costs, who pays for it, and why the system would rather you just kept quiet.PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysciPARADOX LOST PRE-SALE: https://buy.stripe.com/7sY7sKdoN5d29eUdYddEs0bHOMEBREW MUSIC - Check out our new album!Hard Copies (Vinyl): FREE SHIPPING https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/products/vinyl-lp-secretary-of-nature-everything-is-so-good-hereStreaming:https://secretaryofnature.bandcamp.com/album/everything-is-so-good-herePARADIGM DRIFThttps://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show00:00 Go! 00:04:22 Creativity and Conformity in Tension00:06:49 Bronze Age Collapse and the Cost of Innovation00:13:21 Why Civilizations Keep Destroying Themselves00:25:04 Can Better Thinking Be Taught?00:28:03 Light as a Model for Thought00:50:54 New Ideas Need Protection to Survive00:58:14 Cultural Evolution Is Not Darwinian01:07:42 Why Good Ideas Lose to Bad Systems01:13:03 Why Physics Punishes Originality01:27:24 How to Tell a Breakthrough From a Bad Idea01:42:52 Would Aliens Have Rock and Roll?01:49:19 Creativity as Expanding What's Possible#creativity #physics #conformity #culturalevolution #innovation #philosophy #naturalphilosophy #consciousness #evolution #psychologyMERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98DONATE: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaDSUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rssMAILING LIST: https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/- Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySciMUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

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