How do ministers reform public services?

This week's episode looks at public service reform, how important ministerial leadership is in driving Whitehall transformation, and what this government can learn from those who successfully executed their vision.Joining host Alain Tolhurst to discuss why driving change is often so difficult is Dr Rebecca McKee, senior researcher at the Institute for Government, and lead author of a new paper on the role of ministers in public sector reform, along with Charlotte Pickles, chief executive at the Re:State think tank and a former special adviser to Iain Duncan Smith at the Department for Work and Pensions, and Baroness Simone Finn, Conservative peer and a former Downing Street deputy chief of staff, as well as the founder and co-chair of Francis Maude Associates, having worked as a special adviser in the Cabinet Office during the coalition government.To sign up for our newsletters click herePresented by Alain Tolhurst, produced by Nick Hilton and edited by Ewan Cameron for Podot