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EPISODE · Aug 4, 2025 · 29 MIN

How Do We Get out of This Mess?

from This Old Democracy

In this episode of This Old Democracy, host Micah Sifry engages with Bill Kristol, an editor-at-large at The Bulwark,  to discuss the current state of American democracy, the rise of authoritarianism, and the challenges posed by political polarization. Kristol shares his insights on strategies to combat these threats, including the importance of civic engagement and potential electoral reforms like fusion voting. The conversation emphasizes the need for a collective effort to strengthen democratic institutions and the hope that arises from active participation in the political process. Read Kristol's recent work on his Substack here: https://substack.com/@williamkristol   

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